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Harpman summed things up well.  

There were several respected members of the community that tried to build the site up early on and give them credibility, but when they raised concerns about fake reviews and corrupt profiles, that site decided it would be easier to ban members than correct their own mistakes.  

The only reviewers remaining there now are the guys rejected by respected sites like TER.  You will find little more there than fake reviews or rip offs of old reviews from here (if you wrote it you own it!) to post for free days.  Many guys don't even bother lifting their own old reviews at this point, but instead steal the reviews of other handles to post as their own.  You can tell because the reviews mention locations for girls they have not worked at in 3-4 years now.  Pathetic.    

They even sank so low as to offer bribes for more reviews (we will pay $10 per review!)

As for the forum, they have become the laughing stock of the rest of the community as well.  You can't allow people to go around posts unsubstanciated lies about the girls without loosing all respect from their client base.  Two Providers actually had the courage to call the liars out publicly on the forum and the site responded by deleting their posts.  The last thing they want is for their corruption and lies to see the light of day, or clean up their system.  

I know at least 3 Providers personally who lodged complaints against false services on their profiles and AF responded by telling them what goes on the profile is decided by the reviewers.  So they have no quality control over the review process, but take the reviewers word as gospel when forming the profiles.  If the lady tells them directly "that's a lie, I don't offer that" there response is "the reviewers decide what you offer, not you."  This has lad to vindictive guys writing lies about the girls that end up codified in their profiles and AF refuses to let the verified reviewers correct the record.  

So much for their lie about "Verified Provider, control your own Profile."  What is the point of a Provider verifying her profile if they just ignore their requests to correct the lies about them.

Like everything else on that site, the "verified provider control your own profile" line is just another lie in a long list of lies they tell both the hobbyists and the Providers.  No wonder it's become a septic tank that's toxic for the community and receives no respect from the community at large.

Welcome to TER.  Where respected reviewers post and the forums are used for sharing valuable information rather than slander and personal attacks on Providers.

 

 



-- Modified on 11/23/2014 5:52:39 PM

My maiden post is to just introduce myself here.  I have migrated over from another site (I think we know which one).  I am into the k girls scene.

One day I realized that the forum on the "other" site essentially stopped.  I didn't think much of it at the time.  After a while I stopped seeing a lot of the names I was used to reading.  Hence, soon thereafter everything went to pot and things turned quite ugly (unmoderated forum).  Lots of accusations, spoofing of handles, flaming, insulting our provider friends among other bs.

After some research and nudging, I have gravitated here.

Better late than never?

Harpman601534 reads

from the worst hobby site one can even dream of in their worst nightmare . It is run by shady , evil unscrupulous  characters and charlatans intent of monopolizing every aspect of the hobby process for a fast buck .  

Here is the reason why they are referred to as fraud , fake , false and flop .

These charlatans are a menace to providers who pay to place ads with pictures on their affiliate site only to discover their profiles and reviews combined with other providers who reside in different towns and whose pics in no way imaginable resemble them in looks.  

Provider review profiles a corrupted by stating services they don't offer and practices they don't indulge in .  Yet despite this site's claim that verified providers can control their profiles, and endless requests by the "verified" providers and problem reports from users these charlatans refuse to make the necessary corrections and instead ban  protesting paying VIP members for pointing out the discrepancies .  

The site's unethical business practices from their the time they were created undermined their credibility and corrupted the value of their reviews.  Members who pay to gain VIP status for the privilege of reading reviews  are cheated of legitimate reviews and instead find years old reviews posted by fake handles and stolen from TER and other credible review sites, fake and plagiarized reviews, reviews by insiders who get discounts and freebies to post high scoring positive reviews, paid for reviews by those in business to write reviews fake review for providers whose business is slow , revenge reviews by those settling scores with providers , reviews by unreviewed providers who offer discounts , special service and other incentive to get a favorable review , reviews this site offered $10 to those who submitted them . A fish rotten from the head if there is ever one  .

Their discussion board is not referred to as a septic tank for nothing. Multiple disposable handles are created to slander both providers and other users and to spread false vicious and malicious lies intended to destroy careers of providers and reputations of hobbyists. These posts would not appear and the posters would not be permitted to post their hate if the gang who run the site do not approve them .  

For the record even before their Discussion Forums were launched ( plagiarizing the K-Doll a term I coined here on TER to refer to Korean providers) I protested their corrupt review system whose data was almost exclusively copied , cut and pated years old TER reviews. At the time I even asked TER to see if TER reviews are copyrighted . I continued protesting their reviews and corrupt practices both privately and  publicly until I was banned in August for exposing them with a post on their site .  

Weeks later they restored my membership but I refused to lift my ban in them . To make up for  that rejection they created the handle I use exclusively on TER and nowhere else . Fortunately , I became aware of it and a fellow TER bro used their sites to expose their imposter handle .  

Bro consider yourself lucky to escape these wankers and land on your feet to tell about it.  
 
 

Posted By: spongee62
My maiden post is to just introduce myself here.  I have migrated over from another site (I think we know which one).  I am into the k girls scene.  
   
 One day I realized that the forum on the "other" site essentially stopped.  I didn't think much of it at the time.  After a while I stopped seeing a lot of the names I was used to reading.  Hence, soon thereafter everything went to pot and things turned quite ugly (unmoderated forum).  Lots of accusations, spoofing of handles, flaming, insulting our provider friends among other bs.  
   
 After some research and nudging, I have gravitated here.  
   
 Better late than never?

Thanks for the reception.

I was aware of the more recent stuff going on but I wasn't aware of the issues from the beginning.  Oh well.....

The best thing to do now is to move forward.  

The hobby is suppose to be fun, right?

Posted By: Harpman60
 
  from the worst hobby site one can even dream of in their worst nightmare . It is run by shady , evil unscrupulous  characters and charlatans intent of monopolizing every aspect of the hobby process for a fast buck .  
   
 Here is the reason why they are referred to as fraud , fake , false and flop .  
   
 These charlatans are a menace to providers who pay to place ads with pictures on their affiliate site only to discover their profiles and reviews combined with other providers who reside in different towns and whose pics in no way imaginable resemble them in looks.  
   
 Provider review profiles a corrupted by stating services they don't offer and practices they don't indulge in .  Yet despite this site's claim that verified providers can control their profiles, and endless requests by the "verified" providers and problem reports from users these charlatans refuse to make the necessary corrections and instead ban  protesting paying VIP members for pointing out the discrepancies .  
   
 The site's unethical business practices from their the time they were created undermined their credibility and corrupted the value of their reviews.  Members who pay to gain VIP status for the privilege of reading reviews  are cheated of legitimate reviews and instead find years old reviews posted by fake handles and stolen from TER and other credible review sites, fake and plagiarized reviews, reviews by insiders who get discounts and freebies to post high scoring positive reviews, paid for reviews by those in business to write reviews fake review for providers whose business is slow , revenge reviews by those settling scores with providers , reviews by unreviewed providers who offer discounts , special service and other incentive to get a favorable review , reviews this site offered $10 to those who submitted them . A fish rotten from the head if there is ever one  .  
   
 Their discussion board is not referred to as a septic tank for nothing. Multiple disposable handles are created to slander both providers and other users and to spread false vicious and malicious lies intended to destroy careers of providers and reputations of hobbyists. These posts would not appear and the posters would not be permitted to post their hate if the gang who run the site do not approve them .  
   
 For the record even before their Discussion Forums were launched ( plagiarizing the K-Doll a term I coined here on TER to refer to Korean providers) I protested their corrupt review system whose data was almost exclusively copied , cut and pated years old TER reviews. At the time I even asked TER to see if TER reviews are copyrighted . I continued protesting their reviews and corrupt practices both privately and  publicly until I was banned in August for exposing them with a post on their site .  
   
 Weeks later they restored my membership but I refused to lift my ban in them . To make up for  that rejection they created the handle I use exclusively on TER and nowhere else . Fortunately , I became aware of it and a fellow TER bro used their sites to expose their imposter handle .  
   
 Bro consider yourself lucky to escape these wankers and land on your feet to tell about it.    
   
   
   
Posted By: spongee62
My maiden post is to just introduce myself here.  I have migrated over from another site (I think we know which one).  I am into the k girls scene.  
     
  One day I realized that the forum on the "other" site essentially stopped.  I didn't think much of it at the time.  After a while I stopped seeing a lot of the names I was used to reading.  Hence, soon thereafter everything went to pot and things turned quite ugly (unmoderated forum).  Lots of accusations, spoofing of handles, flaming, insulting our provider friends among other bs.  
     
  After some research and nudging, I have gravitated here.  
     
  Better late than never?

You're better served to leave the cesspool of misinformation stemming from that fraud site!   Inconsistency, false information, and deceit could put you in harms way.   The leadership that allows it to perpetuate must enjoy the back slapping/ego boost of their compatriots who are eager to top one another with fabrications.  Otherwise, why would anyone want continue to swim in such a cesspool?    

 Enjoy the truth and good luck as you climb your way to K-Heaven!

You are the ones who are creating the crap on the other site as well on this one.  You keep creating new handles and writing the same bs in the discussions and then complaining about it.  Funny how I continue to use this one handle on all sites.  Except lakcrap.  On there I'm something different...

You are the ones who are causing all of the problems on these sites because you are the ones who are within the little lakcrap site who are bookers & sick little freaks who are illegally blackmailing the girls.

Yes, I know, you'll probably bash me for this with the same things you've always have because you have nothing else to go on and / or try and use against me.  Blah Blah

You guys think you run these sites.  New flash, you don't.  You think these sites are stupid?  They know who you are and what you are up to.  You are nothing to them.  You are a very small, annoying fish in a huge pond.  You are a very very niche little group in a huge world.

Another thing... It's completely obvious about your reviews and them all being fake for your benefit.  Go look on both sites at the kdolls ( which you didn't coin ) and then compare the reviews and ratings to that of any other city and ethnicity.    Hmm, interesting how the other cities seems to be very real with their reviews.  Get a life.

Come down from your fantasy world and join us in the real world.

EOM
TUFW

tomcat007961 reads

Harpman summed things up well.  

There were several respected members of the community that tried to build the site up early on and give them credibility, but when they raised concerns about fake reviews and corrupt profiles, that site decided it would be easier to ban members than correct their own mistakes.  

The only reviewers remaining there now are the guys rejected by respected sites like TER.  You will find little more there than fake reviews or rip offs of old reviews from here (if you wrote it you own it!) to post for free days.  Many guys don't even bother lifting their own old reviews at this point, but instead steal the reviews of other handles to post as their own.  You can tell because the reviews mention locations for girls they have not worked at in 3-4 years now.  Pathetic.    

They even sank so low as to offer bribes for more reviews (we will pay $10 per review!)

As for the forum, they have become the laughing stock of the rest of the community as well.  You can't allow people to go around posts unsubstanciated lies about the girls without loosing all respect from their client base.  Two Providers actually had the courage to call the liars out publicly on the forum and the site responded by deleting their posts.  The last thing they want is for their corruption and lies to see the light of day, or clean up their system.  

I know at least 3 Providers personally who lodged complaints against false services on their profiles and AF responded by telling them what goes on the profile is decided by the reviewers.  So they have no quality control over the review process, but take the reviewers word as gospel when forming the profiles.  If the lady tells them directly "that's a lie, I don't offer that" there response is "the reviewers decide what you offer, not you."  This has lad to vindictive guys writing lies about the girls that end up codified in their profiles and AF refuses to let the verified reviewers correct the record.  

So much for their lie about "Verified Provider, control your own Profile."  What is the point of a Provider verifying her profile if they just ignore their requests to correct the lies about them.

Like everything else on that site, the "verified provider control your own profile" line is just another lie in a long list of lies they tell both the hobbyists and the Providers.  No wonder it's become a septic tank that's toxic for the community and receives no respect from the community at large.

Welcome to TER.  Where respected reviewers post and the forums are used for sharing valuable information rather than slander and personal attacks on Providers.

 

 



-- Modified on 11/23/2014 5:52:39 PM

Thank you for the information.  

I will endeavor to earn my stripes here.  

Bottom line is I am just a hobbyist ISO the perfect provider or in other words, trying to work my way up the provider hierarchy....LOL

Posted By: tomcat007
Harpman summed things up well.    
   
 There were several respected members of the community that tried to build the site up early on and give them credibility, but when they raised concerns about fake reviews and corrupt profiles, they decided it would be easier to ban members than correct their mistakes.    
   
 The only reviewers remaining there are the guys rejected by respected sites like TER.  You will find little more there than fake reviews or rip offs of old reviews from here (if you wrote it you own it!) to post for free days.  Many guys don't even bother lifting their own old reviews at this point, but instead steal the reviews of other handles to post as their own.  You can tell because the reviews mention locations for girls they have not work for in 3-4 years.  Pathetic.    
   
 They even sunk so low as to offering bribes for reviews (we will pay $10 per reviews!)  
   
 As for the forum, they have become the laughing stock of the rest of the community as well.  You can't allow people to go around posts unsubstanciated lies about the girls without loosing all respect.  Two Providers actually had the courage to call the liars out and the site responded by deleting the posts.  The last thing they want is for their corruption and lies to see the light of day, or clean up their system.  
   
 I know at least 3 Providers personally who lodged complaints against false services on their profiles and AF responded by telling them what goes on the profile is decided by the reviewers.  So they have no quality control over the review process, but take their word as gospel when forming the profiles.  This has lad to vindictive guys writing lies about the girls that end up in their profiles and AF refuses to let the verified reviewers correct the record.  So much for their lie about "Verified Provider, control your own Profile."  
   
 Like everything else on that site, the "verified provider control your own profile" line is just another lie in a long line of lies.  No wonder it's become a septic tank that's toxic for the community.  
   
 Welcome to TER.  Where respected reviewers like to post.  
   
   
   
   
   
 

Welcome to TER. You'll have a much better experience here. And have fun!

come to think about it.  I saw a review posted for one of my favorites, Bomi, not the youngest but she provided service to me that transcended her age, but I digress.   I saw a review posted on her about 4 months AFTER she left.

Thank you.  I am very happy to be here.  My goodness Serena, you got my attention.  VERY attractive.

You will find that the information, quality, and posters  and reviewers are much more reliable here on TER.  The other place seems to be run by the inmates. Enjoy!  

Posted By: spongee62
My maiden post is to just introduce myself here.  I have migrated over from another site (I think we know which one).  I am into the k girls scene.  
   
 One day I realized that the forum on the "other" site essentially stopped.  I didn't think much of it at the time.  After a while I stopped seeing a lot of the names I was used to reading.  Hence, soon thereafter everything went to pot and things turned quite ugly (unmoderated forum).  Lots of accusations, spoofing of handles, flaming, insulting our provider friends among other bs.  
   
 After some research and nudging, I have gravitated here.  
   
 Better late than never?

Hi Spongee62,
I agree with you about that "other" site and think it's a total waste of time for providers, as well as hobbyists!
Maybe you should branch out and try other varieties on the TER menu. There are so many beautiful girls to choose from. Why limit yourself to "K-dolls", although I'm sure they are super hot too. If not, I think there is another TER board just for K-girls.  
I hope I am not overstepping my boundaries and if so, I apologize in advance.
XO
Alanah415

No problems here.  

I thought it was appropriate for the LA board because it is an LA issue.   Please correct me if I am wrong but it seems the k-girl board seems to want to deal in generalities.

Variety...you make a good point...all in due time.

Take care.

Posted By: Alanah415
 
 Hi Spongee62,  
 I agree with you about that "other" site and think it's a total waste of time for providers, as well as hobbyists!  
 Maybe you should branch out and try other varieties on the TER menu. There are so many beautiful girls to choose from. Why limit yourself to "K-dolls", although I'm sure they are super hot too. If not, I think there is another TER board just for K-girls.  
 I hope I am not overstepping my boundaries and if so, I apologize in advance.  
 XO  
 Alanah415

First of all, let me say that I agree that the forum on that other review site is worthless at best. I too tried to correct some posts that I felt were scurrilous, but to no avail. Also, it's whole review philosophy is very lacking and questionable. However, we also have a problem here at TER. Basically TER does not recognize the advertising site that is affiliated with that other review site, and unfortunately it is the site that is most utilized by a large number of LA based escorts. Also in my opinion it gives the most current information as to availability, etc. whereas sites such as Eros, City Source and ThatMall do not. I have been a member of TER since its early days and have seen a lot of changes along the way. I would only hope that TER could find some way to solve this conflict. Until then a lot of us have to jump back and forth for information on one site  and then reviews on another. Ciao!

I kinda of got that vibe when I tried to post the link of my first review.  It kept saying ad link when there was one pasted into the field.  

Oh well....we will persevere and soldier on.

 

Posted By: CENZO1
First of all, let me say that I agree that the forum on that other review site is worthless at best. I too tried to correct some posts that I felt were scurrilous, but to no avail. Also, it's whole review philosophy is very lacking and questionable. However, we also have a problem here at TER. Basically TER does not recognize the advertising site that is affiliated with that other review site, and unfortunately it is the site that is most utilized by a large number of LA based escorts. Also in my opinion it gives the most current information as to availability, etc. whereas sites such as Eros, City Source and ThatMall do not. I have been a member of TER since its early days and have seen a lot of changes along the way. I would only hope that TER could find some way to solve this conflict. Until then a lot of us have to jump back and forth for information on one site  and then reviews on another. Ciao!

Harpman601984 reads

On the other site they charge $250 pm for ad on the affiliated ad site only for their review site to combine the profiles of different providers , change the services provided by the provider and refuse to make the necessary corrections when asked by the providers who are fraudently enticed to become " verified providers" to have "control over their profiles." These changes in profiles that showing services the providers does not offer and which clients might now expect irresponsibly puts the providers safety at risk.  

TER does not permit trolls to create a new handle for each OP for the purpose of slandering the providers by name suggesting all kind of falsehoods and posting malicious a fabricated allegations intended to destroy the reputation and business of the providers..

TER has a policy that does not permit promotion of competing sites . That is a business decision and not  a strategy to destroy the providers , slander them or put their safety at risk after taking their money for ads.  

The K-doll establishment should own the task of controlling their own advertising  and marketing. They are knowledgable and capable of creating their own individual group sites or an umbrella site to house all the K-dolls in LA. It would be efficient , economical and under their supervision and control. An ad costs $250 per month . There are about 100 providers at any one time , about 30 providers come and 30 leave every month who make for a lot of monthly $250 that can be saved instead of being paid to an ad site whose affiliate is intent on destroying the K-girls careers.      

Posted By: CENZO1
First of all, let me say that I agree that the forum on that other review site is worthless at best. I too tried to correct some posts that I felt were scurrilous, but to no avail. Also, it's whole review philosophy is very lacking and questionable. However, we also have a problem here at TER. Basically TER does not recognize the advertising site that is affiliated with that other review site, and unfortunately it is the site that is most utilized by a large number of LA based escorts. Also in my opinion it gives the most current information as to availability, etc. whereas sites such as Eros, City Source and ThatMall do not. I have been a member of TER since its early days and have seen a lot of changes along the way. I would only hope that TER could find some way to solve this conflict. Until then a lot of us have to jump back and forth for information on one site  and then reviews on another. Ciao!

I'm a long time participant on TER and I participate on the other site as well.
I'm a HUGE k-girl fan so I have to use both sites for info.

Shame to see the other forum turn so ugly and that the operators don't seem concerned.  It will be their downfall if not addressed.

Thanks again!

Harpman601068 reads

The only way to know what is genuine is if you recognize the handles of respected and highly regarded reviewers such as Cenzo1 , Mufftime , Brenn97 and other TER members .  

I am not sure what useful info you get from their discussion board . The intelligence of substance is on the blog and reliable reviews on TER .  

If I was a reviewer I would withhold my reviews from the septic tank and help fellow punters and K-dolls by only posting my reviews on TER . That is the only solution to shape up or ship out this shady , corrupt and shameful operation .

Posted By: Bonobo13
I'm a long time participant on TER and I participate on the other site as well.  
 I'm a HUGE k-girl fan so I have to use both sites for info.  
   
 Shame to see the other forum turn so ugly and that the operators don't seem concerned.  It will be their downfall if not addressed.  
   
 Thanks again!

A site is only as good as the providers, reviewers/posters, and honesty of the site involved. When verified providers are ignored about matters concerning their own profile and when Information concerning obvious mistakes about profiles are ignored then there is something really wrong..... Personal agendas and axes to grind????? Just look at the tone and the topics of posts that are being allowed to remain there. They won't ban those trolls but they will ban people trying to correct wrong information. Hopefully something can be done here so that ter can become the go to site.  

Posted By: spongee62
My maiden post is to just introduce myself here.  I have migrated over from another site (I think we know which one).  I am into the k girls scene.  
   
 One day I realized that the forum on the "other" site essentially stopped.  I didn't think much of it at the time.  After a while I stopped seeing a lot of the names I was used to reading.  Hence, soon thereafter everything went to pot and things turned quite ugly (unmoderated forum).  Lots of accusations, spoofing of handles, flaming, insulting our provider friends among other bs.  
   
 After some research and nudging, I have gravitated here.  
   
 Better late than never?

It is a sad state of affairs over on that site.

I was banned for defending a girl who's profile was changed by a Liar's piss pour review stating she did things that she does not. Even though they finally removed the review, they did not fix her profile and I got banned for attempting to correct it. They even deleted my Quicktip stating as much.

Between the Fake reviews, the Admins and Misc forum posters, popping up (Not saying they are the same "Site Employees and friends") and K-girl haters or them just trying to wiggle into the K-girl scene financially.

What's funny is if you removed the k-doll forums review, and posts that site would be a shell of itself, and we all know it, including them.

The reasons for why they are doing it, are just too unclear at the moment to me, granted I am to new to this scene to know anything for sure so will follow Harps lead.

I do find it sad that they are in league with the Ad site and hope that will change soon but will not hold my breathe for anything any time soon.

Again, Welcome Sir, glad to have you. I look forward to talking

Welcome to this site. It's much better here where things get moderated. I'm still working on earning my stripes. Persevere and your efforts will be rewarded.

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