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Re: Exactly - other providers insist "we're not all the same"
sleepydasher 1689 reads
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lol, better get a blanket!!!  just kidding, I have a couple favorites that I really enjoy because they seem very genuine and we seem to have a good time together-  but.......  I also readily accept that if I were not seeing them under p4p circumstances I would very unlikely be on there list of date possibilities!  

I liken it to my own profession- I have clients and also sales reps who view me as a client that I very much enjoy when I see them, but have absolutely no interest in socializing with them on my own time-   helps me keep hobbying in perspective!  If I didn't, my feelings would be hurt every time an email was answered slowly or not answered.

but there is some truth to it.. so since it was written for "newbies," I thought I'd share it and open it up for discussion by all...

SINfully SINthia

sleepydasher1287 reads

lol- that is a riot!  Much more funny and humorous to read than the other recent "rant" post, and surely much more truth in it!

My comment on the serious rant one was that there was truth in it to be found despite all the dispicable parts of it... in this one the truth is easier to see and digest!

Sad on some of the parts on though- some of my great GFE experiences involve moderate licking and nibbling, both by me and the ladies- either they were seriously good actors on GFE or enjoyed the closeness as I certainly did.  I asked one particularly enjoyable encounter lately how she felt about lots of "skin to skin" as she called it and she smilingly replied- put yourself in my place- if you were being paid to sleep with a hot girl- what would you like?  What a great attitude!

This is why I set my appointments at 10 Am in the morning. I like being first cock of the day.
Pepe

and giggling, and shaking my head in wonder.
Yes...there IS some truth also.
Thank you for sharing.
xoxo
Di

ladyx1656 reads

Thanks so much for sharing that! She was right on on so many points. Especially the first page. Although I have to say that if the guys do follow all of those rules, then I actually really enjoy the cuddling and I most likely am going to have at least one or more genuine orgasms. But they do need to "stay on top of the hood" for God's sake.
I hate that urethra rubbing. Also the hand washing is huge with me. And OUCH on the things they do to our breasts and nipples. And kissing and nibbling from head to toe is awesome, but nothing creeps me out more than being licked, especially on my face and in my ears.

I do not appreciate a client jackhammering my pussy.

A guy might think it feels good...but at least they don't have to deal with a monster yeast infection!

If I see skid marks...he goes out the door!

Pinching my nipples like they're dough is NOT F'in pleasurable.

Sorry about the rant. Everything that woman said is 1000% true. It was funny, too.

I was with a lady who liked her nipples pinched HARD!  I was never able to pinch them hard enough for her.  It was no fun.  I like to roll my palm over the nipple and feel it get hard.

dreamweaver71242 reads

I certainly get the intended tongue in cheek humor and I'm also sure this may have elements of truth for her and many other ladies.  But what always gets me about blogs or posts like these is that there is an implicit indication that all woman are the same and they all like/dislike the same things.

The fact of the matter is they are not all the same and nor are guys.  What one women may like another may not.  Same with dudes.  Ridiculous for any member of either gender to imply that their likes/dislikes are universal for everybody else.    

I must admit there are many facts here but the tone of this article is not funny. The author of this blog is very unhappy with what she is doing and needs to seek change in her life . I am not laughing at any part of her article but deeply wishing her hope in herself. Haley

When someone hates what they do that much, they need to find another occupation.

If anything, her problem here is communicating.  providers need to find ways to tell their clients their particular likes and dislikes.  Perhaps some other providers could chime in on this.  If it's my first time seeing a lady, I actually ask what she prefers.

She should stop generalizing about providers and hobbyists.

Ouch. If that's not enough to shrivel up the gonads of a newbie, nothing will. I'm wondering if hobbying is such a good idea after all. I feel like I've been respectful of all the points she made, and I'm a very considerate lover. However, if the best that can be said, regarding the connection I have, even with my favorite GFE, is that I'm just being tolerated, that leaves me feeling pretty cold.

sleepydasher1690 reads

lol, better get a blanket!!!  just kidding, I have a couple favorites that I really enjoy because they seem very genuine and we seem to have a good time together-  but.......  I also readily accept that if I were not seeing them under p4p circumstances I would very unlikely be on there list of date possibilities!  

I liken it to my own profession- I have clients and also sales reps who view me as a client that I very much enjoy when I see them, but have absolutely no interest in socializing with them on my own time-   helps me keep hobbying in perspective!  If I didn't, my feelings would be hurt every time an email was answered slowly or not answered.

Thanks for your response. I agree with you in that I would not want to socialize with most of my clients, but there are some, after getting to know them, over a long period of time, I've come to care about a great deal. And, I agree that, though the 2 providers that I seen are very GFE, I know I would not be on their dating list. However, my self-esteem might be too wrapped up in giving them pleasure, though not in the mulitple pops and O's sense, but sensually. Money being motivator, I have no issue with. I just don't like the feeling of just being tolerated.

The ladies are always insisting that we guys are clueless because we think they're all the same. We just covered that earlier in the week. THEN.......... you get a post like the one in discussion here where the lady protrays that ALL women don't like, or do like, the same things.

Sigh........women!

hehehe

Totally agree.  I read this and didn't find it humorous at all, any more than if I had said something in general about how often I catch a provider staring at the ceiling or examining her fingernails while we're doing the deed (which has only happened once so far, and I'm not going back).   If all providers truly feel this way as she says, then participating isn't remotely worth it.  I'll stick to my few "exceptions" who actually make an effort to enjoy themselves and are as professional and respectful as I try to be.  If I had seen this a year ago before starting up I probably would have stayed out of the whole thing.

What's funny about angry people?

Not much, to answer my rhetorical question.

For what it's worth, she is wrong not only in her generalizations about both men and women, but also on her STD facts. Bareback straight sex is dangerous for contracting HIV, bareback oral is not. It was a bit surprising to see her get that one wrong.

smirke1212 reads

I don't see why people think  she's so angry just because  she likes guys to   wash their hands  and doesn't like the smell of urine when she goes down  on a guy.   I'm sure towels are hard to get  at the hotel when  there are some  20-30 showers taken each day,  and I think if  20 women  ranging from 1's  to 7's  licked YOU every day   you probably wouldn't be all that excited  even if  Jessica Alba was doing it for the 21st time  (well maybe  then..)    If noting else   it convinced me to  bring some  kaluha and chocolate next time and offer her a backrub ( i like giving them anyhow)

As a relatively new hobbyist, after reading that post, I wonder how many providers feel that way.  There has been much discussion on these boards about generalizing that all providers are the same, and that all hobbyists are the same.  
I do try to be respectful and follow all the proper etiquette,  be clean, as well as try to be a considerate lover(as a previous poster said).  One of the main things I've struggled with since I've begun hobbying is whether or not providers are genuinely having a good time during the session, or are  just acting, and can't wait until  the time is up.
As a guy who can only afford to hobby about once per month, each appointment is a big event for me, something I look forward to very much.  I know that we should just enjoy the time with providers, but if they aren't enjoying themselves during the session, then  it's difficult for me to enjoy the session.  Sometimes this aspect about the hobby can cause me to have mixed feelings about whether it's right for me. Right now, I see one provider who I believe not only enjoys what she does, but enjoys seeing me, and I plan to keep seeing her as often as I can.

runningman

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I think that after you've read enough reviews, you can tell which ladies like their work, and which ones only like the pay.  There are hints between the lines.  When you read a review that talks about a session that went wrong, and the lady tells him to take back part of the donation because she knows it was an off day, that's a keeper, in spite of a possible low score.  When I look at a lady's reviews, I read the newest one first, then the worst one, and then the rest, usually excluding the ones from first timers.  By reading the bad one first, I'll have an idea what went wrong, and see if there are traces of it in the "good" ones.  Very often, you'll see the same tendency repeating, even though the scores are high.

Since doing that, I haven't been disappointed.

Within the next week or so, someone will write another review of this provider, enumerating all of the orgasms she had and talking about how great a time she had with him.

I would love to see the reactions of the guys who have written those types of reviews of her if she would reveal herself. My bet is you would hear a lot of "I know she wasn't faking anything with me" reactions.

sleepydasher1402 reads

Is it a pretty safe bet that no matter how verbally o'ing a provider may be that if she is not wet, it's faked?  I wonder how many of these reviewers who write about all the o's their providers have take that in to consideration.

Sorry Golden Bear, you cannot tell by the wetness factor whether she has faked it or not. There are many reasons including age or time of cycle that can effect whether she is able to get wet.

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