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Re: Quad has it all wrong again....AGAIN!
Mr.M.Johnson 254 reads
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"Robots will create more jobs than they take for many years in the future."

Yeah, how so?  Bill Gates and Mark Cuban disagree.  B.Gates thinks we'll need to tax robots  

 http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/02/20/cuban-trump-cant-stop-rise-robots-and-their-effect-us-jobs/98155374/
     
    "Writing programs for a corrupt bank, Wells Fargo, busted for creating ghost accounts to steal millions from their customers, has absolutely nothing to do with robotics."

Quad, I was discussing ALL automation including soiftware, robotics, artificial intelligence, Big Data NOT just robotics. Automation illiminates jobs is/was my point

     "You actually believe someone who has worked in fast food couldn't find the knowledge  
                                           How to Write Code ? "  
   
  Low skill ex Burger King employees could easily learn how to build robots in an assembly line.  
   
   What makes you believe you are  more intelligent than any young person working in fast food, willing to work hard, study and learn  a completely different  field ?  
 
   Everyone doesn't have to be an MIT engineer to catch a train to Human success stories in  
   Robot manufacturing and technology. "

Sure, some Burger Kingers can learn to write code - some.  Just curious: why are they still working at Burger King rather than writing code? - is it because they get free fries?  
 
There's a dire need for programmers - and, you're right about one thing: it doesn't take an IQ of 200 and/or an engineering degree from MIT.  Please tell Trump to provide training including programming to his base of low-skilled layer off people.
   
  "If anti advanced technology attitudes like yours"  

Quad, I'm NOT anti advanced technology! Just the opposite! I'm pro advanced technology! I'm in the business of advanced technology! I sell advanced technology!

 "If anti advanced technology attitudes like yours were in control, because of perceived job losses, we'd need a hundred times more labor  to grow and harvest crops on our farms across America."

This is fucking incoherent.  I'll play: why will we "need 100 times more labor to grow and harvest crops across America?"  Will we have 100 times as many people???

 
  Trump doesn't understand jobs and manufacturing. http://www.zdnet.com/article/cuban-says-trump-doesnt-understand-technology/

My whole point Quad, is that automation illiminates jobs and Trump doesn't get it - he's 10-20 years behind the times.  He promised all these guys who lost their jobs when their plants closed and moved to Mexico, China etc., that he would bring their jobs back - he mostly won't, and for the minor number of companies that come back, they won't reopen the closed plant - they'll build a new plant which uses automation.  The new plant will require new and different skills than the low-skilled previous jobs.  Yeah, some guys will learn, most won't.  Why aren't these guys learning new skills now, rather than sitting home?

It's a changing world and Trump still thinks it's 1995

What a misinformed moron!    There is a picture of the aircraft with breakdown of parts and which country supplies the parts.    There is Japan, Italy, UK, Canada, Australia, France and Sweden.

Helped by robots, SC (right to work state) non union assembly workers make $20.59 an hour while their counterparts in Washington State make $31.28 an hour with full medical, retirement and full health care after retirement all through union.

TwoMints138 reads

The left loves to parse words.

Define made.  Did he say all the parts where made in SC? Did he say made instead of assembled? The hyperventilating about the means of is is, is hilarious.

Do you think right to work eliminates Medical? Retirement? Health Care?  It doesn't.  Sure they are paid a lower wage. I'd have to check cost of living between the states, and the difference of take home wages based on the local economies. Did you?  

Unions artificially inflate wages. The union take a nice chunk and feed the Democrat party. Though that's likely to change soon.

Posted By: hwy2heaven
What a misinformed moron!    There is a picture of the aircraft with breakdown of parts and which country supplies the parts.    There is Japan, Italy, UK, Canada, Australia, France and Sweden.  
   
 Helped by robots, SC (right to work state) non union assembly workers make $20.59 an hour while their counterparts in Washington State make $31.28 an hour with full medical, retirement and full health care after retirement all through union.

Mr.M.Johnson204 reads

I've been to this plant - a whole lotta robots and relatively speaking a few people making not much $money.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/BMW-Manufacturing-Greenville-Salaries-EI_IE17733.0,17_IL.18,28_IM356.htm

Posted By: Mr.M.Johnson
I've been to this plant - a whole lotta robots and relatively speaking a few people making not much $money.  
   
 https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/BMW-Manufacturing-Greenville-Salaries-EI_IE17733.0,17_IL.18,28_IM356.htm
 Out of necessity, Humans are paid to work on many aspects of a robots life on earth.
 
  Robots require a large amount of personal care, starting with design, development, manufacturing, delivery and  installation, usually leading to  upgrades and  maintenance.    

  Relatively speaking, there's a lot more to robot maintenance than dusting and oiling.    
 
   BMW plant in South Carolina has thousands and thousands of employees, most earning much more than your  link implied.

  The cost of living great in Spartanburg is dramatically less than Beverly Hills, especially when you look at wasted, senseless expenditures.
 
   The vast majority of workers  in South Carolina, don't spend as much in ten years on mental therapy, as most  Hollywhite  stars waste in a week, struggling in vain  to buy a sincere smile.  
 
            I've heard money can't buy happiness.  
       
   From my work experience over the years and 'especially ' since I joined the " America First" winning team,  personal satisfaction with myself  for a job well done, has surely helped  pay for my continual grin.   :-D
   
http://www.autonews.com/article/20160307/OEM01/303079996/largest-bmw-plant-will-expand-this-year

Donald.J.Trump265 reads

I know you didn't mean to point out the the prior administration/s secured those jobs.  

You meant to point out that only in the past 3 weeks that I created those jobs.

Thank you for your blind ambition.

#MakeAmericaWhiteAgain

Mr.M.Johnson306 reads

And, are you saying that robots are too expensive due to upkeep etc.??

Posted By: Mr.M.Johnson
And, are you saying that robots are too expensive due to upkeep etc.??
 

                           You taking lessons from  famous actors ?  
  No doubt you could get a job with Fake News CNN with your twisted reading skills.  

        I have never claimed or insinuated Robots are too expensive or bad for our economy.  
 
                 Robots will help create millions  more jobs than they replace.  

                                            My point you missed!!!
  There's a whole lot involved in manufacturing  before the chores of cleaning and oiling Robots  comes into play.  
 
  Do I have to spell out everything with  explicit detail for you to understand the message?  
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewMsg.asp?MessageID=301136&boardID=39&page=1&view=1
   
   Anyone who  believes fast food workers being replaced by Robots will affect "America First" job progress, is as ignorant about  technology as our resident trolling insane monkey, and doomed to  failure like he seems to enjoy.  
   
  Some fast food workers replaced by robots will find new jobs building robots, some fast food workers who quit before they are replaced will find jobs working with Great Presidents.
   

   I'd rather live in Spartanburg or anywhere in South Carolina around happy, secure, well rounded  citizens, than be surrounded by legions of upside down, sad delusional posers, from closet racist Hollywhite,  Beverly Hills.  
                  If you don't catch my drift, I tried.

Mr.M.Johnson184 reads

Quad, tell that to the people who lost their jobs to robots.  Tell that to guys who worked in a plant, lost their jobs, and when Trump brings those jobs back, the new plant will be largely robots.   ie, Carrier: Trump provides tax break and supposedly saves 700 jobs.  Carrier says, "thanks for the tax break! We'll use it to buy robots!"

Quad, please don't try and school me on technology! - I'm in technology - my company writes a wiz-bang program for Wells Fargo and a lotta people lose their jobs.  I'm in business to put people outta work! - somebody has to do it!

And, I have a news flash for you!  Ex-Burger King workers don't build robots!  If low/no-skilled guys could build robots they wouldn't be sitting home waiting for their plant to reopen.

And please don't school me on Greenville, SC - you obviously haven't been there.  It's still ~1950 there.  People with Confederate flags on the back of their pick-em-up trucks

Robots will create more jobs than they take for many years in the future.  
   
    Writing programs for a corrupt bank, Wells Fargo, busted for creating ghost accounts to steal millions from their customers, has absolutely nothing to do with robotics.  
     You actually believe someone who has worked in fast food couldn't find the knowledge
                                           How to Write Code ?  
               Get with the real program, wake up and educate your own self.  
   
  Low skill ex Burger King employees could easily learn how to build robots in an assembly line.
   
   What makes you believe you are  more intelligent than any young person working in fast food, willing to work hard, study and learn  a completely different  field ?  

   Everyone doesn't have to be an MIT engineer to catch a train to Human success stories in  
   Robot manufacturing and technology.    

Based on some of  the comments you've made, you don't look a smidgen as wise as you think.  
   
  If anti advanced technology attitudes like yours were in control, because of perceived job losses, we'd need a hundred times more labor  to grow and harvest crops on our farms across America.  
   
     I have no doubt  many Farrier jobs were lost when the Model T went into mass production.
         
      How many jobs were lost soon after 1440 when  the printing press was improved leading to mass production of books..  
   I have no doubt , thousands of menial, at one time considered great jobs were lost.
   
    How many millions of new  jobs were created after books became readily available because of the printing press and everyday citizens wising up ?  

 Look at the time  Humans could  save for other ventures when taking advantage of Robot labor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPdctulVhCA

    I suggest you educate yourself and read some books on robotics and new job creation .  
                Until we meet again, try to read on the topic in question before you speak like you are an authority on something you know nothing about .  
 
                             Thanks for the amusement.  
                                  Have a nice night.

Mr.M.Johnson255 reads

"Robots will create more jobs than they take for many years in the future."

Yeah, how so?  Bill Gates and Mark Cuban disagree.  B.Gates thinks we'll need to tax robots  

 http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/02/20/cuban-trump-cant-stop-rise-robots-and-their-effect-us-jobs/98155374/
     
    "Writing programs for a corrupt bank, Wells Fargo, busted for creating ghost accounts to steal millions from their customers, has absolutely nothing to do with robotics."

Quad, I was discussing ALL automation including soiftware, robotics, artificial intelligence, Big Data NOT just robotics. Automation illiminates jobs is/was my point

     "You actually believe someone who has worked in fast food couldn't find the knowledge  
                                           How to Write Code ? "  
   
  Low skill ex Burger King employees could easily learn how to build robots in an assembly line.  
   
   What makes you believe you are  more intelligent than any young person working in fast food, willing to work hard, study and learn  a completely different  field ?  
 
   Everyone doesn't have to be an MIT engineer to catch a train to Human success stories in  
   Robot manufacturing and technology. "

Sure, some Burger Kingers can learn to write code - some.  Just curious: why are they still working at Burger King rather than writing code? - is it because they get free fries?  
 
There's a dire need for programmers - and, you're right about one thing: it doesn't take an IQ of 200 and/or an engineering degree from MIT.  Please tell Trump to provide training including programming to his base of low-skilled layer off people.
   
  "If anti advanced technology attitudes like yours"  

Quad, I'm NOT anti advanced technology! Just the opposite! I'm pro advanced technology! I'm in the business of advanced technology! I sell advanced technology!

 "If anti advanced technology attitudes like yours were in control, because of perceived job losses, we'd need a hundred times more labor  to grow and harvest crops on our farms across America."

This is fucking incoherent.  I'll play: why will we "need 100 times more labor to grow and harvest crops across America?"  Will we have 100 times as many people???

 
  Trump doesn't understand jobs and manufacturing. http://www.zdnet.com/article/cuban-says-trump-doesnt-understand-technology/

My whole point Quad, is that automation illiminates jobs and Trump doesn't get it - he's 10-20 years behind the times.  He promised all these guys who lost their jobs when their plants closed and moved to Mexico, China etc., that he would bring their jobs back - he mostly won't, and for the minor number of companies that come back, they won't reopen the closed plant - they'll build a new plant which uses automation.  The new plant will require new and different skills than the low-skilled previous jobs.  Yeah, some guys will learn, most won't.  Why aren't these guys learning new skills now, rather than sitting home?

It's a changing world and Trump still thinks it's 1995

Why do think these Germans open up assembly plants in SC, AL, TN, KY etc.,   Right to work = dirt wages, no benefits, absolutely no benefits after retirement (if they can survive till retirement).

Back home they have union leaders in their plants on the Board of Directors, mandatory.

Mr.M.Johnson288 reads

That's one of the reasons they opened plant there.  I got tour of this plant 3 years ago.  They make SUV's there.  70% are exported - mainly to Japan.

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