I don't know where you're getting this "usually" shit, but for me, the differences between $300 escorts and $1000 escorts are usually vast. If not for you, fine, but stop trying to make the shit into gospel. Just sounds like sour grapes.
To be more clear I'll provide an example; do you find yourself rating a $300/hr encounter higher than you would the same experience that cost $450? I didn't think I did, but an earlier post on this board had me thinking about my reviews and the more I think about it the more I'm sure that I have been unconsciously holding women that work at a higher price point to a higher standard of performance. At $300/hr I'm much more likely to think "oh well, YMMV" where as at $500/hr I really don't accept a YMMV experience as acceptable.
Just curious about whether or not everyone else feels this way, and do you reflect those feelings in your reviews?
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And yes, I think someone could fairly expect more from me than they could at $300/hr. E.g. We may host at places of different calibers, provide different amenities at incall (like wine, toiletries, etc)...
The same way I feel a $30, $200, $2000, and $5500 handbag should be held to different standards, and the experience shopping in a store that sells a $30 handbag would be markedly different from a store that sells $5000 handbags. I don't TREAT things any differently, though.
A small caveat here - Every provider, no matter their price point, deserves to have their boundaries respected. A higher price point does not dictate a provider should have more on the "menu". If someone wants to be $1000/hr and not provide x, y, or z because they are uncomfortable with it, it doesn't matter how you feel. You should respect her boundaries and find another provider who matches your preferences more closely at whatever price point you want.
Locality and market rate differences aside...
I'm really thinking about how I react when both ladies have similar performance scores, allow pretty much the same things based on their TER page, and multiple reviews back up that TER page. So pretty much the major difference between the two is price range.
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I would hope that the performance scores don't signal the same in performance between the two providers. If you get the same performance and the same experience than that's cookie cutting. And their should be more of a major difference in providers besides our rates.
Also keep in mind that smart providers base their rates on their geographical area. So providers who may live or travel to NY will raise their rates to accommodate the cost of living or travel/lodge. The average rate for a provider in NY is 800/hr. Followed by DC at 600/hr, however if you travel to NC you will find that the average provider in that area is about 450/hr. With that said, again a smart provider is going to set her rates according to the care she is giving herself and to you the suitor, you get what you pay for or you should.
Providers such as myself pay for
* quarterly health/std screening
* maintaining my cute, sexy appearance
* that upscale incall
* sexy attire & lingerie (not cheap)
* photographs (definitely not cheap)
* the phone I speak to clients on
* advertisements (not cheap)
* transportation/flights (definitely not cheap)
* toys (don't forget the batteries)
* miscellaneous (top secret)
The "average" for the DMV is *not* six bills an hour. Safety providers and agencies are at 3, and we have a huge number of fabulous indys that will rock your world for 4. 6 is the exception and the women getting that consistently in the DMV earned it the old fashioned way, they didn't start out there.
She is trying to normalize the 600 range, which is bullshit. The 300-400 range is the norm. Anything over that is porn star status.
Cost have to be recouped, that is a certain, but not all off of one client! For 600, one client is paying for her hotel, makeup and clothes, time, and food for that day.
it's interesting how you used handbags as an example. designer items are usually sold based on reputation alone and has little to do with the quality of the item
Contrary to the mystique created with fancier photos and websites, the difference between a 300/350 girl and a 600-1000 one is usually nonexistent. Your pops still feel the same, she is likely the be the same level of attractiveness, and the menu is usually the same.
With that said, yes, if I leave a session after spending hundreds feeling like I wasted money and the same level of service could have been obtained for much less, that will reflect in my score.
Yea the pops feel the same. That's why it's a no-brainer to just fuck guys when no women are available, am I right? I mean it's all holes and dick-kneading. Not like sex is psychological or anything...
I don't know where you're getting this "usually" shit, but for me, the differences between $300 escorts and $1000 escorts are usually vast. If not for you, fine, but stop trying to make the shit into gospel. Just sounds like sour grapes.
I don't know where you're getting this "usually" shit, but for me, the differences between $300 escorts and $1000 escorts are usually vast. If not for you, fine, but stop trying to make the shit into gospel. Just sounds like sour grapes.
Another dollar for you, another sucker for her HAHA
I guess I'm just fortunate enough that I don't have to wring my hands over a few hundred dollars when I'm indulging.
On the other hand, someone who approaches this with activity with shit like "diminishing returns" in mind just sounds sad as fuck. Poor bastard.
he just has a different experience than you do.
Got it slick?
On the other hand, someone who approaches this with activity with shit like "diminishing returns" in mind just sounds sad as fuck. Poor bastard.
I acknowledged above that his experiences might have been different, and even said that it was fine. That's not what this is about now. Maybe sit this one out until you learn words.
dorkff
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The fact that someone is a big enough fool to pay that much for some twat. Are you running a charity or non-profit called Save a Ho Foundation or something?
It's a simple business transaction -- point and simple. You are the type that will fuck one time and agree to put a girl through college or something. Now that, sir, is sad!
Do us all a favor can grow some self respect! LOL
Typically the rate is what you are able to charge in that city and factoring in what sort of type of guy you wish to see.
Don't get me wrong, there is extra atmosphere things that higher end gals do. They typically stay in 5 star hotels and do all sorts of extras. That is pretty damn nice.
Every city is different on price point. When I am coming to DC, my rates are far greater. It is what the going rate is.
If I was in a city where I can see a gal for $300 or $700 and they give the exact same experience, or what I feel is the important things to me.... I'd see the $300 gal. Experience should be greater at a higher price point. Most higher end ladies do deliver on that, as far as I can tell.
I enjoy regular guys and blue collar types, so I am not going to price myself out where only the suits will see me. It is a decision that I make for myself. Lower rates than a higher end gal doesn't make me "less" than her. I aim for a different crowd.
So it depends on what matters to you.
I, myself, have booked with a gal who charges quite a lot. I am going to have a good ass time and enjoy the extras. I know enough of my own clientele that can vouch for her that I know she is worth it 100% and that she fits my type. She can deliver on not only what I want BCD but also has a personality that I will enjoy in and of by itself. I research wink wink.
I am not going to flack a guy who expects more at a higher rate and reviews accordingly. Yes, value of money should matter when reviewing. You can't give me a 10 and her a 10 if she is double my rate. How much sense does that make?
Don't ever be afraid to see a higher rate gal. Just research and then book. A lot of little things are so welcome and nice.
The hotel rates in DC affect my rates when I come. Seriously even a shit tel motel is ouch. If I am going to pony up on 600-900 a night, my rates will reflect that. Plus I will do a lot of sight seeing. Less guys equal a higher rate.
If anyone has suggestions where I should stay, please pm me. I am looking at June for 2 weeks.
Just curious about whether or not everyone else feels this way, and do you reflect those feelings in your reviews?
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did you say you pay to date ladies?
I generally do feel that you can expect more from the experience with women who honestly value themsleves. A higher consideration generally reflects a consistent expectation of quality based on the provider's level of skills. "The menu" may or may not be the same as a cheaper option, but the sophistication of the time together is a definite.
And yes, as already reviewed, some areas like DC, are just plain ol' expensive to plan to create that upscale sophisticated ambience. Cheaper means just that...you may or may not get a well manicured date. The location may or may not be on the higher star level. The general personality of the lovely lady may or may not be on the educated and sensual mind level to tickle your senses.
I have tried to stay in what I consider the mid-range...it is a place that permits me to truly provide the sensual level that makes me purr best for you. I personally prefer to see less and be the best for you...
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I understand what you're asking and maybe, just maybe, you have a different set of expectations between ladies in the different price ranges. It would be perfectly normal if you did. I know I did.
I found myself faced with the same question as you many years ago (before I came to TER some years ago). My first "higher rate" encounters were so incredible, I couldn't help but rate the ladies with very high scores. When I had more encounters with "regular rate" ladies, I found myself comparing them to my "higher rate" experiences and scoring them accordingly.
A hobbyist friend of mine brought it up to me when we had lunch one day and we spoke of the ladies we had seen (i.e. sharing information). He said I kept comparing the 2 sets of ladies and he thought it was a bit unfair.
Are there differences between the ladies? Sure. What I learned is this.....I hobby to experience a variety of ladies. They are not the same so I should not think of them the same way. I have learned to review each lady I see and base my narratives and scores on the individual experience I have with them.
Some guys have only a direct cost-to-benefit way of thinking and don't see the differences in the 2 subsets of ladies we are speaking of. I understand the differences and know that there are great experiences to be had at every level and I do my best to review the ladies accordingly.
For the record, just as there are great experiences to be had at each level, there are also bad ones. Higher price does NOT guarantee anything. It still boils down to chemistry for me. If it's there, it's great, if not, it isn't. I review the ladies I see based on this principle.
To me, it really is that simple.
I hope this helps and does not confuse you.
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It was one of the worst written review i'd ever seen yet he still rated her 10/10 ... she was a higher end priced lady. Review content didn't match the score at all. It sounded like he had a pretty 'meh' time yet still gave her the highest scores possible.
I thought he might have felt like an ass scoring her less because he'd spent so much.
...a value rating. Ratings are on looks and performance, not value for the money. I've had $300 and $800 ladies both rock my world and lay there like a dead fish. The $300 Rocker is a better value than the $800 dead fish.
My philosophy is that price should be factored into the expected appearance and performance.
a session. Logically, I tell myself that I use price as a strong determining factor in choosing to see a lady or not. After all, we are in a competitive market, if I look at a 350 lady vs. a 500 lady I need to see where the extra value might be, either in performance (menu and/or execution) or looks or a combo. So once I choose to see a lady I try to not let price influence how I evaluate the experience, but it's hard to avoid. I think price versus value perceived is more of a factor in whether I might see her again. But if I'm writing a review, it's hard to not let the price factor into my evaluation, e. g. did she perform better than the lady I saw 2 weeks ago for $ 50 less? It's a total experience, & it's hard to slice the experience up into looks, menu, performance, attitude, price, etc.
I think that it is fair to say that we all -- at some level -- hold women to higher standards if we pay more. For most of us, this probably happens at the subconscious level. That said, when I do a rating (1-10) I do my best to do them as objectively as possible and not let price influence my scores. I do, however, mention price or value in the write ups sometimes and that is obviously a factor that you consider when deciding to repeat or not. I have certain expectations for below $300/hr, another set of expectations for $300/hr to $350/hr (where most of my encounters occur), and pretty high expectations for more than $400/hr. I would consider flipping this question around and determining reasonable ranges considering factors such as location, looks, performance, etc. In other words, in DC I might expect the following:
6 = I could go out to a club or bar and pick this lady up.
7, 7 = $200/hr
8, 8 = $250/hr
8.5, 8.5 = $300/hr
8.5 = $300-400/hr
9 = more than $400/hr