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sleepydasher 1214 reads
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JR70022360 reads

Is it customery to tip an escort in addition to the fee paid?

amber201084 reads

a 15% tip is always appreciated when a good service is provieded; it's like an added incentive that lets us know our service was appreciated.

"Tips are never expected but always appreciated".

Let your conscience be your guide. By the end of a session, you'll know whether or not you got more than your moneys worth.

MartinBlank1786 reads

I always tell them as I'm walking out the door, "you want a tip, don't declare this income on your taxes."  They get their tip, and it comes out my pocket via taxes that they don't pay!

(FYI: I'm joking)

Stradaletz2753 reads

I usually give her 50% extra.

Strada, I imagine you are one very popular hobbyist with the ladies!

Just a question1742 reads

50%!!!  You've got to be kidding!!!  Who are you seeing?!?

I mean, I can see this if your talking about a 50-100 $ street walker who gives you the best BBBJ you've ever had.  But most TER encounters are $$.5 to $$$$$.  She is already making a good amount of money for her effort.

Stradaletz984 reads

>> 50%!!!  You've got to be kidding!!!  Who are you seeing?!?

Likewise when I ride a taxi to work, it costs $13, I generally pay $20.

I had been a virgin until 31, so I appreciate the life energy these ladies give me.


Obviously Stradaletz is an incredibly wealthy man to give a provider 50% tip on every session.

This means the following. If he sees 2 providers a month at $500 a piece, he is spending an addiitonal $500 in tips. So instead of spending 12,000 for the year, (24 sessions), he is now spending 18,000 a year for those same 24 sessions.

If we multiply this over 20 years, our wealthy hobbyist could have just spent $240,000 for 480 sessions, but because of his tipping, it now costs him 360,000 for the same 480

Saving the $120,000 could have earned our provider 240 additional sessions at $500 a pop or an average of 12 per year or 1 per month.

Thus by tipping as much as he does, has simply cost him the opportunity of seeing one beautiful provider a month over the next 20 years!

That's not very good business

BTW, $20 for a $13 dollar cab ride is simply pissing money away..you could have given the cab driver four dollars and he still would have been your best friend.

Stradaletz1668 reads

> Obviously Stradaletz is an incredibly wealthy
> man to give a provider 50% tip on every session.

Very wealthy -- I make $40K a year after taxes...

> This means the following. If he sees 2 providers
> a month at $500 a piece, he is spending an
> additional $500 in tips. So instead of spending
> 12,000 for the year, (24 sessions), he is now
> spending 18,000 a year for those same 24 sessions.

Not that.  I see a provider for $300 ($150 tip + $80 motel room) once a month.  With $530 a month for 12 months it comes out to $6,360 a year.  Not that much.

SaucyJack1296 reads

For that same amount of dough, you could see her (or another $300 babe) for 21 times (almost 2x month).  And you know what?  She'd probably rather get YOUR money via 2 sessions a month as opposed to one.  Granted, that would be $600/month instead of $530, but think about how much more you'd be getting.  Learn!

I never solicit a tip, but I will say that I do appreciate it, especially when it's unexpected.

I'd say probably 1/2 the guys I see add a little extra - anywhere from $20 to a couple of hundred.  I think it all depends on the situation and the person.

So, it's not a requirement, but it's a good way to get a repeat from a girl you like!

Giggle,
TS Jamie  :-)

SaucyJack1450 reads

...I can only stand so much!

GGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, from the incorrect spelling of the third word of this thread to all the lame-ass responses, must I step in again and educate the masses (newbs & non-newbs alike)?  Apparently so.  Instead of offering links to this topic, which has been beaten into the ground, or showing off your math skills, I wish any of you would have had the wisdom to simply answer the question.  It was a simple question.  (hint: THE ANSWER IS "NO!")  But hell no, we had to sit back and lo and behold a provider comes in and actually suggests that a 15% tip for good service is appreciated.  Well, hell I imagine it is appreciated, but guess who just shot to the top of my "never-see-this-provider-in-a-million-years" list?  If, a provider is "counting on a tip", then here it is: "Charge what you need to make".  If the demand is there, you'll do fine.  If not, then adjust your price down to where common business sense tells you it should be.

Just one more nugget of thought.  Everytime you tip an indy, what you're really saying is, "Thanks, I had a good time.  Here's some EXTRA money, as I don't think you charged me enough.  Please consider raising your rates!"  Guess which two sentences the provider heard most clearly?

Now having said all of that, if you were shown a great time by an agency girl (especially if her fee was modest) and you want to show your appreciation, then tipping her is fine.  That's money that she gets to keep and not hand over to the agency.  























(Believe it or not, I'm actually a generous person)          LOL!!!!!!!!!

I've noticed a lot of regional differences. some places it does seem to be the norm to tip and in others its as rare as seeing a unicorn.

try to find out whats customary in your area and act accordingly and however youre most comfortable of course!

Tips are appreciated, at least by me. sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't. i really never expect it and i set my rate at a number where i don't have to depend on a tip to meet my business goals. however it always puts a huge smile on my face when it happens and pretty much makes my day.  

oh and i also agree with "Saucyjack" Moderate him. i like the newbie board when its a safe place and people don't get attacked for trying to help.

thanks,
Jenny

sleepydasher1077 reads

I've only seen indy's so far and always tip because so far they have never clockwatched and have run over and I want to be fair for their time.

I've heard the argument over and over about tipping agency girls, not indy's- you shed a very valid point in contrast!

First, let me say that I agree with you - noone in this business should every expect a tip, she should be charging what it is that she charges as with any other business.  This is not a "service industry" in the traditional sense of the word (i.e., low wages and reliant on tips.)

That said, I've often been confused by the reluctance to tip indys by those who are happy to tip agency girls.  Yeah, they pay back to the people who do the advertising, marketing, scheduling, screening... the people who do all the time consuming and overhead incurring work behind the scenes.  Because the only time they put in managing their business is "clock time", agency girls tend to make much more than indys.  Why would you tip them just because they pay someone else to manage their business?

Just the thoughts of a lady who has been in both pairs of shoes.

SmilingJack.1842 reads

10 years of hobbying and you’ve never had an indie go a half hour or more overtime with you, and/or do something extra for you that you don’t see in her reviews. Everyone I know in this hobby has had those things happen, and tips are justified in those cases. The fact that it never happens to you should tell you something about yourself.

SaucyJack1260 reads

Dude,

Don't even think for one second that you know what you're talking about!  I have two ATF's that have given me discounts off of their normal rates and/or extensions of their time for the past few years!  This is the norm for me!  One lady gave me a "freebie" b/c I gave her a used pair of vertical blinds (yes, they were in good shape and I did install them).  Another gave me a "freebie" b/c she overslept for our morning appt. and felt bad about it.  And those two weren't even coming from my ATF's.  And you know why I get these things.  Well it ain't b/c I'm an out-of-shape, 40-yr old bald guy, which I am.  It's b/c these ladies enjoy my company.  Sure, I show them a decent time.  But I'm not a sex stud by any means (usually one-n-done).  Again, they enjoy my company.  I make them feel special & I make them laugh.  Some, I've given gifts to.  Some, I remember on their b'days.  I send them appreciation emails out of the blue on Thanksgiving.  This goes a long way.  They know I'm married, and I'm not in love with them.  They know that I'm just a sweet goofball, and they appreciate me b/c I appreciate them.  

The only girls I've tipped are agency girls.  One was the first provider I ever saw (2002, where in the Hell did you think, I'd been doing this for 10 years?  NEWSFLASH: while many know who I am, YOU DO NOT!!!!), and I stupidly thought it might actually be appreciated.  She seemed surprised and unappreciative.  The others were for outstanding service, where I knew the girls (all really young) weren't keeping an appropriate share (easy to determine, b/c even if they got to keep 90% it would've been less than they deserved!).  

And as for my logic with agency girls and the response it got from a provider?  Well, that made me laugh  (I guess you were making too much money at the agency, hence you went indy?).  Thanks for the LOL!!!.

Oh by the way, I'm kind of glad that I didn't get moderated.  Thanks Jazz.  And in deference to the fine job he does, I'll "moderate myself" for the rest of this thread.  So hit me hard or not hard, I don't care :-)

-- Modified on 10/19/2007 9:33:18 AM

-- Modified on 10/20/2007 6:28:02 AM

I agree that NOT moderating you is correct.  While I believe that it's important that the newbie board should be free from attacks on the young-ins, I think it's equally important that it can be a forum for open expression of ideas.  For that to exist, sometimes people have to say unpopular things.  I would hate to see the two confused.

I've said it before, but Jazz does an excellent job of peace keeping, and I think the decision to not moderate in this instance is just another example of that.

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