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This a bit of a sore point for many!sad_smile
jazz32 24 Reviews 1290 reads
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If the visit didn't occur, you can't review it!  However you can, should voice your disappointment on a regional board.  As they say here in England, name and shame her!!!!

mtskys3539 reads

Hey All:
Newb here - Wanted to get opinions on whether to post a NoShow Review on a provider or not.  The provider did not call or anything as far as the scheduled appointment.  I know I am new and working to gain ground on references, but I agreed to provide identification, etc and there seemed to be no problems.  So, being new to this I know the comfort zone thing is an issue (goes both ways as now I am a bit paranoid), so not sure if I should post a review to let others know or not.  Thanks in advance.

If the visit didn't occur, you can't review it!  However you can, should voice your disappointment on a regional board.  As they say here in England, name and shame her!!!!

Agreed! Whatever the reason was for the no-show you are a customer, or at least a potential customer. She is in business and a quick phone call or email either to cancel or at least provide an explanation for the no-show would have been the right thing to do.

I know flaking is a part of this industry but, once you get into the higher priced, reviewed providers there is really no excuse for it.

skisandboots1525 reads

A very hot, well-reviewed provider who I've wanted to see for years no-showed me a little over a month ago.  When I got home from my 1 hr. drive I had a very apologetic email from her, explaining what had happened.  Seemed very sincere and honest.  She also offered to reschedule for FREE.  I replied back that I appreciated her apology and her offer, and that I was glad that she was o.k.  I rescheduled for the following week.  Again she confirms my appointment and tells me not to bring any $ but to "just bring my sexy self!", which was kinda amusing considering we've never met.  Obviously, I was stoked!  But I'll bet you know where this is heading.  That's right, she no-showed me again.  Only this time I didn't make the drive, since she wouldn't answer her phone or email the day of the appointment.  At the end of the day she sends me another somewhat apologetic email, and explains that she was working doubles with another provider, but she wants to re-schedule with me.  So we reschedule for the next week.  You got it, another no-show.  This time, no apologetic email.  But she did answer her phone when I called her after a couple of days.  So we set up another date.  Again she no-shows me (yesterday).  I've yet to hear from her and I don't plan to call her for a few more days at least.  What tears me, is I really want to see this lady (drop-dead beautiful with a great reputation and several pages of top-notch reviews), but I feel like I've been shit on in the worst kind of way.  Ironically, if she'd have seen me on our initial "re-scheduled date", I would have "tipped" her the full amount in hopes that the suprise of my generosity would impress her and "pay off down the road" during repeat visits.  Now that all this crap has happened, the only tip she'd get from me is "don't offer what you have no intention to deliver".  Part of me wants to out her on our Regional Board, but another part of me says, "Wait, there may be something else at play here.  After all, she stepped up big-time when she made her apology and offer, and you don't get pages and pages of great reviews without knowing how to provide service".  However, my brain tells me that she's too busy with "paying customers" and regrets that she ever made the offer with me.  So, I'm scratching my head as to what to do?

She's messing with you big time, knowing that you'll keep trying.  And when it's time for the appointment, she flakes out because she knows there won't be consequences for it.  As jazz32 pointed out, name her and shame her.  You described what she did, now add her name to the description.  I know you really want to see this provider, but there are a lot of others, with far more integrity that the one you're wasting your effort on.

unless you want to waste MORE time with this girl. She's shown you she's all talk... now show her you're all walk!

GaGambler1169 reads

You just want to hear it from someone else.

The one thing I would suggest is to let the rest of us know who not to waste our time on.

Did she ever contact you afterwards with an excuse?

How long ago did this happen?

You might want to wait a few days.  I had an experience with a wonderful provider whom I had seen many times and who "no showed" me.  There was no contact for several days until I got a call from her several days later.

She had been in a car accident on the way to seeing me and had been in the hosptial for the last few days.  Her cell phone with my number had been wrecked.

She finally managed to get my number from another source and called to let me know what happened.

Moral:  Don't be too quick to shame.

followme1309 reads

That I ever had a provider so anxious and excited to see me that she got into a car accident on the way to see me, however you do have a good point.

Thank You
2007=27


As they say, shit happens. If you hobby long enough, you will run into situations where the provider doesnt show and does not call to explain her absence. It's happened to me a few times in 10 years...each time I followed through the next day with the provider just to make sure everything was okay. One time it was her car breaking down, another time her boss from her day job called to her a meeting. I thought it was wrong that they did not call to let me know, but in the end it really was no big deal. I was not out any money.  

More often than not, it's the hobbyist who flakes out, gets scared and doesnt show for his scheduled appointment. In this case, the provider gets screwed (not the kind she was looking for) as she could have scheduled another hobbyist instead. This is loss of income for the provider and is a much bigger deal. So as a newbie, follow this advice: If you cant make a scheduled appointment, even if its last minute, CALL the provider to let her know. While she may be annoyed you cancelled at the last second, you at least have a shot to see her again. If you do not call, 99% of the time SHE WILL NOT SEE YOU AGAIN
 
In your case, I wouldnt write the review, as she may have had a valid reason but simply forgot to call you.... I know your annoyed, but let this one go...save your reviews for actual sessions.  

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GaGambler1434 reads

I think no call-no show is the ultimate in disrespect. That goes both ways, as a hobbyist I have never done it, but I have had it happen to me on numerous occasions.

I do realize that hobbyists flake out at least as often as providers do, but to say that it is a biiger deal for a provider than a hobbyist is just not true. My time is worth every bit as much as any provider I know.

If TER would accept no call-no show reviews, I would endorse them completely, by the same token if the ladies were to start a database of No call-no show clients I would support that equally.I used to be a bit more understanding, but maybe I'm getting onery in my old age. If you can't make it CALL!!! that goes equally for ladies and gentlemen. I can understand a last minute excuse, even if I know it's a lie. I refuse to give any more second chances to anyone who thinks their time is so much more valuble than mine.

Sorry about the rant, but this is one thing that just gets under my skin.


In my experiences, listening to providers rant, hobbyist no shows are a far bigger problem than provider no shows. As I said, I can count on one hand the number of times a provider has simply not shown up. While I have NEVER not shown up, I have called to cancel (a few times at the last minute) on several ocassions. I am sure the provider was not able to fill my time slot.

But you are right, your time is just as valuable as a providers. I was making the point that a hobbyist's economic loss is not the same as a providers when faced with no show appointments. (assuming the hobbyist has not rented a hotel room for their meeting)

mtskys1174 reads

I guess the thing that got me a bit paranoid of the whole LE thing mind as this was going to be my first encounter (been hesitant to do it).  Then too, I am not sure I did something that turned it sour...  I had left her a message so we will see if she returns it.  But it also goes to the thing about references, how do you get them just starting out when this kind of thing happens cause they get cold feet (if that is the case) because of your lack of references?

have a huge smile on your face for a week.  This is a wonderful hobby but every so often, there is a no-show.  I've had 2 in five years and have over 35 reviews.

ma vie1208 reads

Last time this happened to me I called an old reliable and we had a lovely visit.

Drop the NCNS, take your cash to someone reliable, give the reliable lady the good review.  She'll get future business based on your review.  Good service = good recognition = good business.

The NCNS gets no review, no recognition, no recommendations for future business.

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