I think that, like Yelp or TripAdvisor or any other peer-review site, the value here is honesty and candor. If you didn't have a good experience, say so. People are smart enough to see if there is only one bad review among a lot of good ones. Trolling or pressuring for a good review only devalues our whole thing here.
I have posted only two negative reviews - one many years ago when the girl was just too drunk to do anything and one a couple of months ago when it was just a bad experience all the way around. Lots of guys PM'd me thanking me for saving them from taking a risk and for taking one for the team. What I'd say to providers and schedulers if, if you get one bad review, don't worry about it and don't lash out - the guy probably won;t be back anyway. But if you get a lot of bad reviews, the problem is not with the guys. If we're not all of us honest -positive and negative - then this whole review system loses its value.When a provider is disappointing it seems particularly important to post a review. If other mongers are content with what that provider offers they might well still choose to patronize that provider.
Recently I posted a review that was positive overall but concluded that the services expected in this area for the premium toll that was charged were not provided. The booker sent me an angry email telling me I was no longer welcome at that agency. Another time the booker of a K-agency asked me not to publish negative reviews because they hurt her business.
I would think that an agency would want to winnow out providers who are not up to the usual standards. But it seems they are more concerned with raking in the $ than the quality of services provided. Seems a bit short-sighted to me.
Admittedly agency managers are between a rock and a hard place in navigating the differing expectations of mongers and providers, and bless them for undertaking the job at no small risk to themselves. But they can talk frankly to providers about what specific services will be offered.
Have you encountered this problem? Any bookers want to weigh in?
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I generally see touring girls around here. They are typically here for very short time (~2 weeks) and I know from talking to number of them that even one negative review is pretty much fatal to their tour. Session is often more than just checking a box list of things, It involves chemistry and sometimes, it's lacking. When that happens, I am not sure whether that deserves a negative review.
I am happy do give a enthusiastic endorsement, but negative slam is just not something I would do. When that happens, I frankly discuss my disappointment with the booker in hopes that it gets back to the provider, so she can improve her service. Sometimes that happens, and she turns out great with glowing subsequent reviews.
One other thing to consider before slamming agency provider in a review is that it's a business for them. Why should they continue to take someone as a client if that person can ruin a provider's entire tour. It would be too risky to continue to take clients that write nasty reviews. When you write a bad review on an indy provider and she refuses to see you in the future, would you be surprised? You may not care, but with agencies, they may have your ATF next week, so it's absolutely not a smart idea
I use the reviews to determine whether the provider is someone I wish to see or not, if customers repeatedly fail to honestly review a provider or don't submit a review unless they can submit a good one there's no point in them beyond helping to determine whether the lady is legitimate. They'll all have good reviews. If the lady had 10 good reviews and one poor one you can write that off to chemistry, I've done that before and not been disappointed. If you see a provider and have a poor time but blame it on poor chemistry and others do the same you might have just met a provider that has poor chemistry with lots of her customers, so submit an honest review because if 50% of her customers are having a bad time with her she's in the wrong business and that's her fault.
I do not know about agency providers as I have always had good experiences with agencies, especially the Korean agencies. But I recently excoriated an independent who had a 8+/9.4 rating from 40+ clients. I rated her 6/2. How could I justify such a review? She was TERRIBLE, AWFUL! I assumed the TER would refuse the review.
Strangely I then receive several private messages from clients that said
1 Well, I gave her a 7 for overall looks, but I was being “liberal” ( Some clients had rated her 10 for looks.)
2 She tried to perform BBFS with me.
3 She smokes MODERATED
4 She drinks heavily, and
5 She’s depressed and openly expresses hated of her family.
The picture I got from these private messages was that I had hit the nail on the head. She closed shop a few weeks later. I have no explanation why 40+ clients rated her so highly. I just wrote the review I thought was fair, and she closed shop. Good riddance.
Write the review you think was fair and damn the consequences
If someone was a blatant ripoff, then yes. By all means write the damning review.
I think that, like Yelp or TripAdvisor or any other peer-review site, the value here is honesty and candor. If you didn't have a good experience, say so. People are smart enough to see if there is only one bad review among a lot of good ones. Trolling or pressuring for a good review only devalues our whole thing here.
I have posted only two negative reviews - one many years ago when the girl was just too drunk to do anything and one a couple of months ago when it was just a bad experience all the way around. Lots of guys PM'd me thanking me for saving them from taking a risk and for taking one for the team.
What I'd say to providers and schedulers if, if you get one bad review, don't worry about it and don't lash out - the guy probably won;t be back anyway. But if you get a lot of bad reviews, the problem is not with the guys.
If we're not all of us honest -positive and negative - then this whole review system loses its value.
you have the right to post whatever review you would like, but the agency has the right to bar you from future visits. That does not seem unreasonable. This is not that different from, say, getting bad service in a restaurant. You can discuss this with the waiter however you would like, but then the manager has the right to tell you not to come back.
One solution is to write reviews under an alias
Another solution -- which it seems to me that skilled reviewers use -- is to avoid giving bad "numbers" on looks and session, but to describe what people need to know in the text of the review. I think the agencies probably hate the low numbers more than the accurate description of the session
If a provider doesn't have reviews, I take that as a bad sign too. For example, there is a K girl that I wanted to try out, but I did not end up seeing her because the entire week she was at the agency she didn't have a single review posted.
From the "About Us" page of TER...
"This site is here for one single reason: We all work hard for our money and we don’t want to waste it on someone who doesn’t deliver as promised. We are also dedicated to finding those special women who truly enjoy making the time we spend with them something special."
This site isnt about advertising for girls or agencies. It isn't a tool for them to raise business. Its about us, the guys, comparing notes on the girls. All that other stuff is superflous. Over the years, I believe this has been lost. I believe it's imperative to post negative reviews. I've seen provders with mostly positive reviews that have been dissappointing - nothing pisses me off more. I don't blame the girls - I blame the reviewers. I've had providers over the years PM me and demand that I change their review - fuck that. Remember why we're here boys - tell it like it is - please.
you & the provider just don't connect & those where there is some sense of a provider misrepresenting her looks or performance.
The former are those cases where the provider was true to her pictures & any promised services but for whatever reason you & she just did not 'click'; these can be disappointing & leave you feeling flat, but she did nothing wrong. In those cases I rarely write a review, as I don't like giving ratings higher than deserved, but I know it could have been just as much my fault as hers.
In the latter case, involving some deception on the provider's part, either appearance far from her pictures or simple non-performance of promised or expected services, in those cases (which are very rare in my personal experience as I am very careful in my scheduling & screening just to avoid such instances) I will write an appropriate review. I just feel like I owe more allegiance to my fellow hobbyists than to any provider who might do that. Also germane to the discussion, I very rarely use agencies, but any that would try to pressure me on a review I would certainly never use again!
When there is a disconnect between the client and the provider, the client usually notes that YMMV in the review. That is the red flag that the provider has lived up to the marketing but something was still not there. The provider might have been experiencing a bad day or she didn't feel a connection with the client. This is the part of the experience that can't be quantified. When I see YMMV in a review, I begin to wonder if the provider is not into it.
As vamikey mentioned, this is not to be confused with an out and out rip off, which should be posted on the TER.
what to expect, and while that's nearly always a little bit true with a new-to-me provider, I really prefer no surprises/disappointments. YMMV is particularly vexing when applied to specific services, and I almost always avoid ladies rated that way. Perhaps I'm a bit particular, but once I commit to spend $XXX on a lady, I like to know pretty specifically what I'm getting for my $$. A YMMV rating for a particular service has often caused me to just pass on that particular provider.
Looking at OPs reviews, no 9s or 10s for looks and only one 9 for performance. A girl sucking your dick BBBJ, licking your butt, and LFK and DKF doesn't get a 9 or 10 for service? Has a civilian ever done that for you?
By definition, those would be a 9 if not 10 (once in a lifetime experience).
If a girl truly is ugly or horrible service, then it should be noted in some fashion. I always throw in a caveat. Just because she's mid 30s doesn't mean she isn't a 9 or 10. I just qualify that she is older or for her age.
Maybe there is something wrong with OP that he is getting such poor service. Is he clean? Dirty nails? What girl wants dirty hands in her private places that are prone to yeast infections, cuts and nicks from poorly trimmed/filed nails. Do you have bad breath? Do you brush and floss your teeth before a date? Halitosis? Do you wash your private parts? Do you take a pee and then immediately see a provider who is giving you a BBBJ ? She can taste it you know, as well as smell your nasty smegma .
I think OP relishes in writing 'poor' reviews.
Something else is going on here.
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Actually he has given five 9s for performance not one as you claim.
Why are you saying he has bad sessions? I read a few of the reviews with 7s in performance and they read well that he had a good time and he even mentioned thanking the booker. His session, his review, his scores.
I think the whole rating system is bloated with 9's and 10's but that is the way things have evolved.
There are five 9s and not one for performance. Yet, there are no 9s or 10s for looks.
As I posted in another thread, a good way to weed through the 'bloated' reviews is to find reviewers that fit your taste in women, but score a bit more aggressively.
I don't think the system is broken per say, there could be a better ratings guide - but that will always be the case, whether here, at work, or wherever. If you were JUST rating the women on TER, then I could see 6's or 7's with fewer 9s and 10s, but comparing the general population - crack ho's in B'more being 2s and 3s, streetwalkers in DC ranging from 5s to 8s, and then you have higher end providers, that rate in the 8-10s IMHO. So, using that range, then the TER system works IMHO.
I don't get the relationship between where the provider comes from and what they should be rated. To be fair, I've only ever seen what you would refer to as higher end providers, but I've surely had poor service from some of those and I've also been disappointed with looks. Why should any provider get a 8-10 just because we met on the internet rather than a street corner? IMHO, whether you are high end should be based upon actual looks and performance, not where you found them. Finally, without regard for the OP's ratings, the theme here is that reviews should be honest. Obviously, all reviews are from the reviewer's point of view alone and, whether they say it or not, there is always an element of YMMV in every meeting between two people who have never met before. If people can't get on board with the general idea that they should be truthful in their reviews, they shouldn't be writing them.
Before you look, I acknowledge that I generally don't write reviews. I have my reasons for that, but when I did write them, they were always honest.