Hmm... interesting you have the feeling everything needs to be negotiated in FKK clubs. I usually feel it is the opposite, most girls will assume you know the pricing for extras. Occasionally I've had had a girl ask me after CIM if I know it is extra, but rarely while in session. COB is one of the few things that may differ per club or girl, often it is not extra... but sometimes it is, so maybe that is a reason to mention it beforehand. DATY should always be included, otherwise the girl is just trying to rip you off. This is all about clubs though, in laufhauser all kinds of extras can be charged.
It is true the large majority of girls is from Romania nowadays, but there are a few places where many German girls work. In Golden Time (near the dutch border) there are always many German girls and 15km farther in Roermond (Netherlands) you have Ying Yang, which is also has quite some German and Polish girls. I wouldn't say there is any club with a majority of German girls, but these clubs at least have a reasonable amount. If you're looking in the Frankfurt area, Sharks in Darmstadt usually has between 5-10 German girls, unlike Mainhattan, Oase and World which are really Romanian dominated. Personally I don't like the German (and Polish) girls that much. They can be very good and very friendly, but it always feels over the top to me. Similar to how I feel about what (to me) is the overeager friendliness in the service industry in the US. I prefer a temperamental Romanian that will tell me she's going to kill me, be all over me 10 minutes later and hit me in the head when I say something she doesn't like. Plenty of men feel completely differently though...Ok, so I made it to FKK Villa in Hannover, it was just a short drive from the city and the cabbie knew right away where I was going. It looks like an imposing castle lit up with red lights. Very cool. I went inside and was asked to pay €50 for entry, was given a towel and key to a locker, and directed to the showers. Got clean and toweled up, was then led upstairs and given a tour by one of the ladies, a dark, stocky Eastern European girl who was friendly enough. Once I was settled in at the bar, I was checking out the scene. There were about 15 girls working that night and maybe eight clients that I could see, mostly some middle eastern tourists. Was dissatisfied with the attractiveness of the girls at the bar, but started a conversation with Cassandra from Brazil. Soon however a stunning, slightly zaftig, dark haired Bulgarian beauty, Denise, entered the room and sat next to Cassie. I expressed interest in Denise and Cassie insisted that we have a threesome with her and a bottle of Champagne to boot. I really wasn't into Cassie, but really wanted Denise, so went for it. We moved to an adjoining living room and got fully naked on the couch. Nice BBBJ from the two girls. Then proceeded to take turns fucking them with intermittent condom changes and cock sucking. After about 90 minutes I jacked pff a massive load on Denise's belly. We were all spent. I paid the girls, showered, paid my bill, and grabbed a waiting taxi. I was happy for the experience but would not repeat. High pressure sales and I ended up lighter on cash than I would have liked, about €500 for the experience.
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I don't want to say you were taken for a ride... but they clearly 'saw you coming'
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If you are talking to a girl and see a better option, just say you are going to the sauna/bathroom/eat and that maybe you'll see her later. Unless the girl has already asked you to a room, there is no obligation to do anything with her (within reason; don't spend 2 hours with a girl and then leave her hanging.
Girls that ask for drinks deserve to be laughed at. I can't even remember the last time I've had it happen and back then I just asked her if she was new to FKK clubs. I've been with hundreds of girls in FKK clubs and have never bought anyone a drink. On the contrary, girls often share their cocktail with me as we are chatting. If you buy a girl a drink, it should be a normal drink like a vodka-redbull, a cocktail. Something they like to drink instead of something to make money on... and it should be your idea. If girls really want sekt (real champagne you don't see often), they'll just poor themselves a glass.
90 minutes in a threesome should be 300, paying for COB depends on club/girl... I hope there was some girl on girl to justify the price (or was that including champagne?).
If you try you luck again, don't forget you are the one that decides what happens. Happy hunting.
Just as a comparison, this weekend I was in three clubs, had sex 10 times (including a few 60 minute session) and spent around 750 in total.
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You are such a stud, icebear. Thanks for the tips, though. I was happy with the service (perhaps I was unclear about my decision to go for the threesome, and yes, it was for the girl on girl action), but admit I was taken for a ride on the bubbly. Indeed, I initially DID say no, but she told me that that was what was expected. I am new to the fkk scene, and first time at the Villa, so just went with it. Hey, it's only money, right? Next time I'll know.
Btw, why are you here, icebear? If a guys spends most of his weekend in fkk clubs, what use does he have for a board centered on escort review?
Btw, why are you here, icebear? If a guys spends most of his weekend in fkk clubs, what use does he have for a board centered on escort review?
As for why I'm here, I occasionally enjoy reading the general board; it also doesn't hurt to be reminded how the 'other half' has to muddle through the p6 scene (including the prices *shakes head in disbelief*). Nothing against the US, I do the same one some European boards that focus on less than stellar pay6 options (ie not in Germany). Keeps one appreciative of the options he has.
icebear...your input and advice are invaluable to this board! best! I'll be over in Dec 
Cheers! I value your input, Icebear. However in my experience of maybe a dozen visits over the past few years, the working girls of Germany provide more of an ala carte buffet than a veritable smorgasbord of service. I do like the legality, openness, and transparency of the German system, but it is often very business-like. Sex is a creative act, and when I am suddenly inspired to try something, say DATY or COB, I don't want to begin negotiations over pricing...I just want to do it! In this regard, the US girls provide more of a prix fixe feast. I also have a hard time finding German working girls in Germany...though it is a great place to find Eastern European and Turkish girls. Maybe you have some tips?
Meh, nothing studlike about ahnding over a bunch of 'fifty's' over a weekend. I just wanted to show your money can go a fairly long way in FKK.
As for why I'm here, I occasionally enjoy reading the general board; it also doesn't hurt to be reminded how the 'other half' has to muddle through the p6 scene (including the prices *shakes head in disbelief*). Nothing against the US, I do the same one some European boards that focus on less than stellar pay6 options (ie not in Germany). Keeps one appreciative of the options he has.
Hmm... interesting you have the feeling everything needs to be negotiated in FKK clubs. I usually feel it is the opposite, most girls will assume you know the pricing for extras. Occasionally I've had had a girl ask me after CIM if I know it is extra, but rarely while in session. COB is one of the few things that may differ per club or girl, often it is not extra... but sometimes it is, so maybe that is a reason to mention it beforehand. DATY should always be included, otherwise the girl is just trying to rip you off. This is all about clubs though, in laufhauser all kinds of extras can be charged.
It is true the large majority of girls is from Romania nowadays, but there are a few places where many German girls work. In Golden Time (near the dutch border) there are always many German girls and 15km farther in Roermond (Netherlands) you have Ying Yang, which is also has quite some German and Polish girls.
I wouldn't say there is any club with a majority of German girls, but these clubs at least have a reasonable amount. If you're looking in the Frankfurt area, Sharks in Darmstadt usually has between 5-10 German girls, unlike Mainhattan, Oase and World which are really Romanian dominated.
Personally I don't like the German (and Polish) girls that much. They can be very good and very friendly, but it always feels over the top to me. Similar to how I feel about what (to me) is the overeager friendliness in the service industry in the US. I prefer a temperamental Romanian that will tell me she's going to kill me, be all over me 10 minutes later and hit me in the head when I say something she doesn't like. Plenty of men feel completely differently though...