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The correct answer is, you are just as wrong as Trump.
bigguy30 113 reads
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You sound a lot like, one of his cult deplorable supporters.

This issue has been studied and now fact checked.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/17/donald-trump/donald-trumps-pants-fire-claim-large-scale-voter-f/

Also your race baiting, in your comment is a embarrassing.
The GOP only goal is to suppress votes and stop people from voting.

They know this is the only way, for them to win.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/glenn-grothman-voter-id-wisconsin-republican-2016/
Posted By: marikod
      Hacking the computer system is only one possible kind of voter fraud. The far more common forms of voter fraud are registration fraud, absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, false election counts, campaign fraud, casting an ineligible vote, voting twice, voter impersonation fraud and voter intimidation.  
   
          There is no peer review study that has identified how often these kinds of fraud occur. Nor could an accurate study be conducted- by definition, fraud is conducted secretly. All the studies – which uniformly claim voter fraud is rare bc they can’t find many cases- tell us is that the number of voter fraud cases ACTUALLY discovered is very low.  
   
         Vote buying in particular is impossible to discover by election officials, unless someone squeals. Voter ID laws have NO effect on this kind of fraud. Do you really believe that in hotly contested states no one has thought of this? Give $50 bucks for low income latinos and blacks to vote for Hillary?  
   
          So despite the media proclamations that voter fraud is rare, the true answer is “we just don’t know,” any more than we know the amount of Medicare fraud, the cost of defensive medicine, or how many blue chip athletes get money-or hookers in Louisville’s case -  under the table. It is just not measurable and all we can do is extrapolate from the cases we do find.  
 


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followme423 reads

Does voter fraud exist?  

What are the Dems plotting?

 
No copy and paste ......No plagiarism  

Just a link.

2016 = GOP All Th e Way

bigguy3068 reads

Jon Husted a Trump supporter and Ohio Secretary of State, is not buying Trump bs either.

Pathetic political dementia from a partisan hack knowing that his side will lose big.

Posted By: followme
Does voter fraud exist?  
   
 What are the Dems plotting?  
   
   
 No copy and paste ......No plagiarism  
   
 Just a link.  
   
 2016 = GOP All Th e Way

There is no voter fraud, or only the one-off mishap. There is however great attempts at voter repression and attempts to fiddle with the machines. But you and your buddies know all about that. Ask about how you can get involved in voter intimidation. They'll fix you up.

This election would really matter if our species had a chance in hell of surviving another 50 years. Knock yourself out. Better yet, forget it and get high, get laid, and spend tomorrow snoozing on the beach.

JakeFromStateFarm105 reads

Generally by each state's Secretary of State.  So, for starters, you'd have to hack each state's voting computers to affect the tally.
Also, more than half the Secretaries of State are Republicans.  So I guess they're in on it too

Hacking the computer system is only one possible kind of voter fraud. The far more common forms of voter fraud are registration fraud, absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, false election counts, campaign fraud, casting an ineligible vote, voting twice, voter impersonation fraud and voter intimidation.

         There is no peer review study that has identified how often these kinds of fraud occur. Nor could an accurate study be conducted- by definition, fraud is conducted secretly. All the studies – which uniformly claim voter fraud is rare bc they can’t find many cases- tell us is that the number of voter fraud cases ACTUALLY discovered is very low.  

        Vote buying in particular is impossible to discover by election officials, unless someone squeals. Voter ID laws have NO effect on this kind of fraud. Do you really believe that in hotly contested states no one has thought of this? Give $50 bucks for low income latinos and blacks to vote for Hillary?

         So despite the media proclamations that voter fraud is rare, the true answer is “we just don’t know,” any more than we know the amount of Medicare fraud, the cost of defensive medicine, or how many blue chip athletes get money-or hookers in Louisville’s case -  under the table. It is just not measurable and all we can do is extrapolate from the cases we do find

places like Philadelphia, St. Louise, and Chicago, and by default, by African-Americans. And, he throws in illegal immigrants, by default, by Mexican-Americans. ;)

bigguy30114 reads

You sound a lot like, one of his cult deplorable supporters.

This issue has been studied and now fact checked.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/17/donald-trump/donald-trumps-pants-fire-claim-large-scale-voter-f/

Also your race baiting, in your comment is a embarrassing.
The GOP only goal is to suppress votes and stop people from voting.

They know this is the only way, for them to win.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/glenn-grothman-voter-id-wisconsin-republican-2016/

Posted By: marikod
      Hacking the computer system is only one possible kind of voter fraud. The far more common forms of voter fraud are registration fraud, absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, false election counts, campaign fraud, casting an ineligible vote, voting twice, voter impersonation fraud and voter intimidation.  
   
          There is no peer review study that has identified how often these kinds of fraud occur. Nor could an accurate study be conducted- by definition, fraud is conducted secretly. All the studies – which uniformly claim voter fraud is rare bc they can’t find many cases- tell us is that the number of voter fraud cases ACTUALLY discovered is very low.  
   
         Vote buying in particular is impossible to discover by election officials, unless someone squeals. Voter ID laws have NO effect on this kind of fraud. Do you really believe that in hotly contested states no one has thought of this? Give $50 bucks for low income latinos and blacks to vote for Hillary?  
   
          So despite the media proclamations that voter fraud is rare, the true answer is “we just don’t know,” any more than we know the amount of Medicare fraud, the cost of defensive medicine, or how many blue chip athletes get money-or hookers in Louisville’s case -  under the table. It is just not measurable and all we can do is extrapolate from the cases we do find.  
 


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I cannot see somebody driving from one polling place to another to vote twice. And likewise, it's hard to imagine someone handing out cash for people to vote for a particular candidate on the honor system. But there are probably more sophisticated ways, like saying, "I will give all you guys free drinks if this precinct goes for my candidate." Something like that might happen.

They are the unholy spawn of Citizens United. They raised more money for this election cycle than ever before- hundreds of millions of dollars. They act independent of the candidates, and have their own special interests. A candidate that would impose a 45% tariff on China might be worth committing criminal fraud to elect if you are an American manufacturer who competes with Chinese goods.

          But I think you are right. An actor on this level  would probably come up with a more sophisticated way to “buy the vote” than handing out cash. Maybe a large donation to a church whose pastor spreads the word to church members. Maybe a promise to open a grocery store in the inner city.  

        My point, however, is simply that it is kind of silly for the media talking heads to proclaim “voter fraud is rare” –or “vote buying does not occur” - when all we know about are discovered cases and this new species of actor has entered the fray with funds and motives that stagger the imagination.

        We just don't now what has happened, and we certainly don't know what will happen

The thing is, it seems that although ALL politics is local, vote buying is even more local. Somebody could maybe come up with something for a community, congregation or neighborhood, but that would only be for one section of one state. It would be hard to "buy" a whole state or a block of states. Most people would probably get more bang spending the bucks on legitimate campaign ads. At last that's how it seems to me.

I do think we've made some advancements that would catch ballot stuffing and multiple voting or dead people voting, things like that. And the effort and risk to pull something like that off just isn't worth any big time effort. Somebody might try to sneak by with something on their own, maybe just out of ignorance, but that's about the extent of it. Again, just how it looks to me.

But yes, a key district could sort of be offered a bribe, even in an innocuous ultimatum. Like I'll build a supermarket if we go this way or that. Somewhat possible.

You openly state in your post no copy and paste or plagiarism!! FM, crawl back in your hole! What a disgrace and total fraud!!

As I suspect you have no fucking idea why I posted that.

 
I was mocking, making fun of, ridiculing and bitch slapping, your boy fg, knowing he read my post and would reply.

Since he has in the past copy and paste the headline of a link and has been caught and called out many times by me and several others plagiarizing excerpts from articles, (trying to make everyone think it is his words) without linking the article and not giving credit to the author.
     
You’re Welcome
2016 = GOP All The Way


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LasVegan52 reads

you know what "FM" stands for; fucking moron!  And he proves it with his every post.  Don't even reply to him anymore, no way anyone would receive an intelligent, logical, truthful reply.  He is incapable of one.

saltyballs63 reads

........because they are well versed in the art of committing voter fraud. The GOP has openly committed voter fraud in communities of color for decades by paying off Black Church Ministers to tell their flock NOT to go out and vote, sometimes even printing and posting bogus fliers in Black neighborhoods with the WRONG dates to vote. Many Republican leaders well aware of the dirty tricks they have pulled over the years now shout the loudest about Democrats committing most of the voter fraud, which is totally bogus

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