So few gentleman like to communicate their expectations, like pulling teeth. Communication is the key in this business and then we are all happy
Let's take a hypothetical 90-minute appointment. Once all the early-session activities are complete (maybe a shower, some get-to-know-you time, etc) there's maybe 10 minutes gone. You hit it off quite well and are able to converse on many topics. Chatting is great fun...but time is passing.
Providers: do you approach things as, "well, it's his time -however he wants to spend it, even if it's chatting for an hour" or, knowing that he's likely there for more than conversation, do you see it as part of the service you provide to find a nice way to say, "shall we get started" if too much time starts to pass by?
Hobbyists: do you feel like it's your responsibility to keep track of how much time is passing or would you appreciate (or maybe *depend* on) the lady saying something before so much time goes by that you're rushing once the other activities begin?
Thanks for your insights!
-PV
I run into this problem sometimes. I pride myself on not being a clock watcher. If we go over 30 minutes it's ok. But, if it's over 30 minutes, I politely mention the time to him and ask if he is wanting to stay longer.
Juliette
After the shower, I make a beeline to the provider with the towel wrapped around my waist. This lets her know I'm ready for fun. If a hobbyer wants to eat up the clock with conversation, he can have fun that way. At roughly 6 dollars a minute for the average session, conversation is a luxury I can't afford.
I've never thought of it in those terms, but damn once you do!
Ten minute conversation, is a nice steak dinner for one.
Couple minute greeting is more than hundreds of thousands of people make in an hour in the United States.
Get your session cut-off by 10 minutes is equivalent of a 2 1/2 hour movie for two in I-Max with sodas and popcorn.
Then again, having a gorgeous girl go down on you BBBJ, CIM and/or have sex, and be discreet about the entire transaction? Worth every penny.
Just think how expensive divorce is, and this service is a bargain
Sometimes I'm not sure if the lady just believes that establishing more social bonding is good for a session or if her goal is to spend as little time as possible depreciating her equipment so to speak. Certainly I respect the idea that a lady would want to be more than a sex machine, not to mention that many (most?) could not sustain a rapid pace throughout the day. Guessing that there is a spectrum of motives. To summarize: I dunno.
I can pick-up on the time wasters pretty quickly and thats annoying. It shows in their service, too. tts rushed.
For girls new to the game, its time well spent to talk for awhile and get rid of the nervousness. It helps quite a bit, and it really is interesting to learn about them. You learn a lot about the hobby, too.
I also have a different than agenda than shooting three loads, making her orgasm five times, and cramming in as much physical activity in 60 minutes.
You are my type of man. It is very important to me that I connect with my date. To me, a great conversation is foreplay. Though I am a sapiosexual kind of gal anyway. If I am in a great conversation with a intriguing gentleman and we talk for 20 minutes I usually don't count that against his time. He he makes me aware of the fact that he is on a tight schedule, I do take that into consideration. And, I don't like to rush when I am having an enjoyable time with him. Due to the fact that I am a low volume provider, it's not like I have another date arriving soon. I want to take my time with him and give him my full attention without time being involved. I know this does not appeal to most gentlemen on here but there are a few that appreciate that about me.
Juliette
What if she hopped in the shower with you? That might be fun...
Ten minute conversation, is a nice steak dinner for one.
Couple minute greeting is more than hundreds of thousands of people make in an hour in the United States.
Get your session cut-off by 10 minutes is equivalent of a 2 1/2 hour movie for two in I-Max with sodas and popcorn.
Then again, having a gorgeous girl go down on you BBBJ, CIM and/or have sex, and be discreet about the entire transaction? Worth every penny.
Just think how expensive divorce is, and this service is a bargain.
Is the equivalent of the lady saying nice to meet you, we will never see each other again
I always wash up when I am at the incall.
Do you think the morning shower freshness from 7am still lasts til 7pm
take a shower before I leave for my appointment.
I have an appointment with a kgirl in about an hour. Guess what? I fully expect to be taking yet another shower when I get there and most likely another one before I leave.
How can a grown ass man complain about being "too" clean?
I don't mind at all taking that extra shower when I get there as I know she won't have any qualms putting her tongue into places that BETTER be clean to put your tongue there.
I take a shower before I leave for my appointment.
That's like an hour and ten minutes between showers.
How can a grown ass man complain about being "too" clean?
I don't mind at all taking that extra shower when I get there as I know she won't have any qualms putting her tongue into places that BETTER be clean to put your tongue there.
I take a shower before I leave for my appointment.
I'll at some point bring up if they need to shower. Now....if they say no i'll ask if it was because they just showered before coming over and if they say yes I'll definitely as when that was. I'll ask when that was because I've gotten responses like "oh yeah like 2hrs ago" lol. And I think I bet he wants me to lick/suck his balls soon that have been marinating and flapping around collecting new sweat/moisture in his boxers or whatever for 2hrs.
My personal thing is if you're ehhhh 45mins+ removed from your encounter with soap/body wash & water (and you may or may not have had your A/C running in your car) that doing a quick good touch-up (5 mins or less) on your naughty bits is not too much to ask for especially if i'm not putting you on the clock for it. And since I offer NURU well a shower just before this substance is applied actually a must because your skin needs to be clean of dirt or oils and the NURU works best with wet/damp 'straight from the shower/bath' clean skin.
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The thing is, I can feel how dirty I am. Personally I want to be fresh, it makes me feel more comfortable.
and with the Koreans, it usually is on the clock, but considering how much fun a mutual shower can be, I don't mind in the slightest. I mean with most Kgirls the shower is part of the fun and should be considered part of my "paid time"
You are absolutely right about "marinating" for even an hour or two when it's pushing 100 degrees outside, I wouldn't ask a woman to suck my sweaty balls any more that I am going to volunteer to eat a smelly pussy. Some things SHOULD just be common sense, but when talking to slingy, common sense is all too uncommon.
provoking this kind of reaction from his dates
LMAO! I couldn't have said it better myself. Sometimes I get in the shower with my date. It's a lot more fun that way
Sorry you feel that way, most of my dates ask to use my shower or I ask if they would like to shower. Once again, I don't count that time against them. Who wants to lay with someone who has sweated most of the day and used the bathroom multiple times during that timeframe. I always shower 45 to 30 minutes before my date shows up so I can be as attractive as possible to him. Why should we not ask the same from you.
Juliette
.....it doesn't seem right to deduct shower time from the date. That just seems tacky particularly if she's an independent provider anyways (I suspect agencies to be more hardcore about time-management and when the clock starts).
I know this whole business is about time. But I think one of the most certain way a lady can ensure a little better reviews and clients returning is to be a little generous with time. I like to start with a few minutes of get-to-know-you time and end with a cuddle and a bit of chatting. There is nothing more of a turn off than hearing a timer go off at 50 minutes or an hour, or a lady clearly trying to get you out the door on the hour. That obsession with time is a total turn-off and I'm not likely to come back, or to remember as good an experience than if the lady had been a little more relaxed about the exact number of minutes.
Two ATFs I had were almost overboard with not being time-conscious, and that's one reason they became ATFs, but I'm pretty sure the returns grew to be more than worth it in the end.
Ladies, just give it a try: build in an extra ten or fifteen minutes for each hour, and see what happens. Look at it as a marketing expense, or better yet, as an investment. It will pay off.
Providers: do you approach things as, "well, it's his time -however he wants to spend it, even if it's chatting for an hour" or, knowing that he's likely there for more than conversation, do you see it as part of the service you provide to find a nice way to say, "shall we get started" if too much time starts to pass by?
Hobbyists: do you feel like it's your responsibility to keep track of how much time is passing or would you appreciate (or maybe *depend* on) the lady saying something before so much time goes by that you're rushing once the other activities begin?
Thanks for your insights!
-PV
Successful providers elegantly move the session along. Like you, I had a provider I liked a lot. Although, she wasn't good at all about the time. While not rushed, it was very abrupt and killed the mood.
I think the asian agencies have it down to a science, and I didn't think of it until now. When its time to go, they ask "time for shower?". Which signals a transition and you get a little more fun time before you depart - on time.
In my experience, every lady is different. Some like to get to know you through small talk, some like to discuss session expectations, some like to move directly into the session. But it's important to establish when the clock starts.
I have one regular friend who loves to talk. Sometimes we will talk for an hour. (We enjoy each other's company but sometimes I think she is just bored.). But, she never starts the clock until we begin serious physical contact. I recently visited another provider who considered her friendly conversation (which she initiated and maintained) as part of the (expensive) session.
I always tell my friends that during the session I will be totally into them. Therefore, I will not be offended if they give me a sign (hopefully discretely) that our time is coming to an end. I always try to fairly compensate for extra time (going over usually indicates a very enjoyable experience which deserves recognition.)
Open communication and establishing expectations can make all the difference between disappointment and fulfillment for everyone
So few gentleman like to communicate their expectations, like pulling teeth. Communication is the key in this business and then we are all happy
I give cues...and guides. I have grown to know that it is appreciated.
A lady asking me take a shower is no problem for me even if I just took one right before. I bet most, if not all the ladies prefer thier men fresh out of the shower. And lets get real with it gentleman, we all enjoy DATY that is clean and fresh. And we all know it is used, but we don't need to smell or taste it. LOL!! AND YES this goes for the ladies as well. So ladies and gentlemen, wash up, be safe and have a good time.
or nervous, I'll drive. 
Btw, I don't count a few minutes of shower time at all.
I've often wondered about this, and have come to the conclusion that it's best to let things play out naturally. I understand that in this industry (for the most part) gentlemen are looking for some degree of intimacy, but I also feel that it unless it's done with some finesse, it could be a bit awkward to indicate that things should start...progressing. In that same vein, and especially with a high quality gfe, I think being able to establish that mental connection before things go any further is optimal, if not necessary.
Making a new friend is always exciting because of the natural thrill that comes from the unknown.
However, in my experience, the optimal experience is most likely found with that special friend with whom there is a mental, physical, and (somewhat) emotional connection. Being a "regular" usually has significant advantages
90Mins goes way too fast. I cant stand them. Everything feels rush rush rush..
Two things it seems we may not have enough of!
I don't see dozens of providers. The one or two I do see let me know they're "ready when I am" but offer an opportunity to have a glass of wine or just talk. But they're totally cool if I want to get right to the main event -- and that's because they're totally cool generally.
On the other end of the spectrum many many years ago i saw a UTR woman who was quite flaky. She'd call me on a Sunday night usually and ask if I wanted to meet up and of course I would say yes. Then she'd have to call a cab, come to my place, and of course there was no communication in the meantime. So it would be anywhere from 30 min to 2 hours and when she showed up she'd make small talk. Talk so small and awkward that I would probably walk away if I were at a cocktail party. One evening she looked at me after 10 minutes of this torture and said "you probably want to get started" and I said "yeah, I do."
We got along but the full-timer I see now usually is much, much better. And ironically, because she is so honest and frankly such a great person all around I am much more interested in talking with her about her life, her family, politics, news, sports, etc.
You will also find that most *good* providers are not clock watchers. Rather they tell you "I can do an hour at 1:30" and then you can always say, "I'm looking for 90 mins or two hours" and they will tell you when they can schedule. It just works for everyone and in fact is much more appealing