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Re: I believe the movie to which you are referring was titled "Dave."
borabora 15 Reviews 124 reads
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Thanks. You have good memory,

Did it ever happen?

RFK died during the primaries. So, that was different.

Supposing Hillary goes belly up before the Election Day, will the DNC elevate Kaine and find a VP candidate for him? Or, pick a new presidential candidate and continue Kaine as VP candidate? How will Bernie supporters react?

What if Trump dies before the Day? What will the RNC do? Celebrate privately?  

Or, will it be like in Cuba? Rush his son, daughter or son-in-law into the slot to ride on public sympathy?

Note: This is just a fun exercise. Don't get all worked up as usual

Check below link. With all of this, she still holds a narrow lead. When he's tied or ahead of her, get back to me then. Then again, if you think Trump is so great, why hasn't he been leading her all this time ?

Time will tell.

Posted By: stucaboy
-- Modified on 9/12/2016 8:39:59 AM

stucaboy115 reads

the media loves her.  With all that she only has a 3% lead?  One more cough or tripping event and its all over.  Might want to warn Warren to start deleting her e-mails and covering her doings in Massachusetts.  What she can't hide is her voting record.

A narrow win is still a win. & with Trump polling as poorly with voters of color who make up 38% of the electorate, dooms him to failure.

However, it all hinges on the debates. We'll see what happens then

Posted By: stucaboy
the media loves her.  With all that she only has a 3% lead?  One more cough or tripping event and its all over.  Might want to warn Warren to start deleting her e-mails and covering her doings in Massachusetts.  What she can't hide is her voting record.

stucaboy136 reads

stand for one hour or keep her mouth in check?  Take a for-real pill "sonny".

Idiot.

Posted By: stucaboy
stand for one hour or keep her mouth in check?  Take a for-real pill "sonny".

GaGambler141 reads

This story really seems to have legs to it.  

Just in the last hour or two Trump is now at 3-2, he was at 3-1 just a few days ago and was at 7-4 only a couple of hours ago.

Even more interesting are the new odds on Bernie Sanders at 18-1 and Crazy Uncle Joe at 25-1. All this in the last hour or so.

Your personal feelings about Trump aside, the fact that he is even in the running against the woman who was supposed to simply waltz into the White House with only token opposition is amazing. The voters really are fed up with "business as usual" for someone like Trump to be getting so much support, especially when BOTH major parties are against him.

JakeFromStateFarm113 reads

Once Bernie Sanders started winning primaries it was clear this wasn't going to be a coronation because of Clinton's high negatives.  Nice straw man, GaGa.

...incapacitated before the inauguration.  

If a candidate died after receiving their party's presidential nomination (hasn't happened yet, though 1 VP has died & in 1972 Tom Eagleton, McGovern's Vice President pick, famously withdrew post-nomination due to his mental health history surfacing), their party would hold an emergency committee meeting for delegates to vote for a new nominee, at that point it's whoever the party thinks has the best chance at still winning the election, whether it's the runner-up from the primaries or somebody who wasn't even previously running for president, and that person requires a majority vote from the national committee in order to receive the nomination.

If Presumed President-elect Dies Between Election Day & Electoral College Vote

As far as the Electoral College goes (this would come into play if the candidate died between election day and the Electoral College vote in early to mid December), federal law says the electors are free to vote for whoever they like. States could have differing rules about who they are to vote for, however.

If Presumed President-elect Dies Right After Electoral College Votes but before Congress certifies electoral college's vote

Congress is not bound by any law to accept the votes for a dead candidate. (happened one time back in the 1890's I think) so theoretically you could have Congress and Congress alone deciding the presidency.

Should the death occur after Congress Certifies Electoral College ballot Vice POTUS-elect would become President.

If there is a delay beyond January 20th,  then the Speaker of the House would become the President pro term until the oath is taken.  

After taking the oath, the Vice President would take over and be sworn in.  

-- Modified on 9/11/2016 11:27:50 PM

Thanks for a very informative post.

What is the final step for a President-Elect to be declared as the President? Is it the oath? If so, what if the Predident dies soon after while taking oath or seconds after, but before the VP-elect has not completed the oath yet?

 

Posted By: Nnoway
...incapacitated before the inauguration.  
   
 If a candidate died after receiving their party's presidential nomination (hasn't happened yet, though 1 VP has died & in 1972 Tom Eagleton, McGovern's Vice President pick, famously withdrew post-nomination due to his mental health history surfacing), their party would hold an emergency committee meeting for delegates to vote for a new nominee, at that point it's whoever the party thinks has the best chance at still winning the election, whether it's the runner-up from the primaries or somebody who wasn't even previously running for president, and that person requires a majority vote from the national committee in order to receive the nomination.  
   
 If Presumed President-elect Dies Between Election Day & Electoral College Vote  
   
 As far as the Electoral College goes (this would come into play if the candidate died between election day and the Electoral College vote in early to mid December), federal law says the electors are free to vote for whoever they like. States could have differing rules about who they are to vote for, however.  
   
 If Presumed President-elect Dies Right After Electoral College Votes but before Congress certifies electoral college's vote  
   
 Congress is not bound by any law to accept the votes for a dead candidate. (happened one time back in the 1890's I think) so theoretically you could have Congress and Congress alone deciding the presidency.  
   
 Should the death occur after Congress Certifies Electoral College ballot Vice POTUS-elect would become President.  
   
 If there is a delay beyond January 20th,  then the Speaker of the House would become the President pro term until the oath is taken.  
   
 After taking the oath, the Vice President would take over and be sworn in.  

-- Modified on 9/11/2016 11:27:50 PM

" Crazy Uncle Joe" was always my 1st choice anyway. Too much baggage with HRC, Monica, e-mails, now this health issue.
Keep in mind what fuels so many Trump supporters is animus toward Hillary. If she were to drop out, Biden or Kaine would win in a landslide.

That said, if secretary Clinton is still on the ticket, she definitely has my vote. Even a corpse would be preferable to Trump.

Posted By: borabora
Did it ever happen?  
   
 RFK died during the primaries. So, that was different.  
   
 Supposing Hillary goes belly up before the Election Day, will the DNC elevate Kaine and find a VP candidate for him? Or, pick a new presidential candidate and continue Kaine as VP candidate? How will Bernie supporters react?  
   
 What if Trump dies before the Day? What will the RNC do? Celebrate privately?  
   
 Or, will it be like in Cuba? Rush his son, daughter or son-in-law into the slot to ride on public sympathy?  
   
 Note: This is just a fun exercise. Don't get all worked up as usual.  
   
   
   
 

bigguy3091 reads

Posted By: ChoosyCynic
" Crazy Uncle Joe" was always my 1st choice anyway. Too much baggage with HRC, Monica, e-mails, now this health issue.  
 Keep in mind what fuels so many Trump supporters is animus toward Hillary. If she were to drop out, Biden or Kaine would win in a landslide.  
   
 That said, if secretary Clinton is still on the ticket, she definitely has my vote. Even a corpse would be preferable to Trump.  
   
Posted By: borabora
Did it ever happen?  
     
  RFK died during the primaries. So, that was different.  
     
  Supposing Hillary goes belly up before the Election Day, will the DNC elevate Kaine and find a VP candidate for him? Or, pick a new presidential candidate and continue Kaine as VP candidate? How will Bernie supporters react?  
     
  What if Trump dies before the Day? What will the RNC do? Celebrate privately?    
     
  Or, will it be like in Cuba? Rush his son, daughter or son-in-law into the slot to ride on public sympathy?  
     
  Note: This is just a fun exercise. Don't get all worked up as usual.  
     
     
     
 

GaGambler129 reads

"reluctantly honest" perhaps, but nothing brutally honest at all about your admission that Hillary sucks as a candidate and will suck worse as POTUS.

As for HRC, the odds are dropping, you might get that even money bet yet, but of course if the real odds ever drop to even money, the chances of you taking the bet drop to about zero.

For the record, the bookies have Bernie as a 25-1 shot to win and Crazy Uncle Joe at 50-1. On the other side of the aisle Paul Ryan is 40-1 with Kasich almost off the board at 250-1, even longer odds than Gary Johnson at 100-1

followme118 reads

You must be competing against yourself for the most boring and several other categories too.

 
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I always liked the Clintons and wouldn't mind Hillary at all but with all of her baggage and her being so deeply unpopular I'd just rather see somebody else as long this person is competent, reasonably well regarded in the country and, unlike what we have now, is generally respected by his peers and his colleagues around the world. Just please no more outsiders, novices or "sons of".

Will she not survive until the Election Day? Will she not complete her 4-yr term if elected?

What's scary about her medical history?

DVT -1998, 2009. Common condition, no big deal. May lead to PE, again not scary.
Blood clot in the brain, 2011: Was this CVST? She's past the acute stage. No worries.
Head concussion, 2013: Past the acute stage. Low risk now.
Takes Eliquis: Good
Hypothyroidism: Very common condition, especially among women. Easy to treat. No change in life expectancy.

Unless she is hiding something, her revealed medical history is not too worrisome.

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