: Re: Which one? Eom : Discussion in Atlanta, posted by NYCforBusiness

CherryBlaster7 years ago2159 reads

Like 5 or six just in the last several weeks. I saw one of my ATF's pop up on a particular agency's site that is prohibitively expensive. (For reasons that escape me).

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NYCforBusiness7 years ago1660 reads

Re: Which one? Eom

Gotcha. I thought you meant another bust.

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CherryBlaster7 years ago1408 reads

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No just that several have closed the shutters as a result. Makes me freakin angry that the morality police have nothing better to do.

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NYCforBusiness7 years ago1429 reads

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Yeah - it's ridiculous. But they are aiming to create this type of hysteria and cool things down for a while I guess. People fearing visits at work is pretty sobering and makes one evaluate the risk/reward. Even if it's never going to happen.

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PandorasBoxers7 years ago1112 reads

Remember That it's the worlds oldest profession

There will always be a Supply

There wil always be a demand

Always

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StinaValentine7 years ago1113 reads

Criminalization of full service sex work is rooted in misogyny

Me too, CherryBlaster. I wish they would do their homework better and only go after real traffickers that are holding women and girls against their will. The rest of us are happy to do the job and aren't hurting anyone.

The real pimps are the corporate giants paying their employees poverty wages. Nobody is going after them though. And, the one profession where women have more earning power than men and aren't getting 78 cents to a man's dollar, they want to shut us down because they don't want us being in charge of our bodies and how we use it in the workforce. Criminalizing full service sex work is rooted in misogyny.

Posted By: CherryBlaster

No just that several have closed the shutters as a result. Makes me freakin angry that the morality police have nothing better to do.

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FriendoftheFamily7 years ago1044 reads

such a bullshit statistic

Any difference is based primarily on choice of career. Where same career comparisons are made the pay is virtually the same.

And do you really think men are against there being sex workers? Seriously? Now THAT'S a good one

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StinaValentine7 years ago850 reads

Re: such a bullshit statistic

The statistic is debatable, I'll give you that.

And, yes a big portion of society does not want sex work to exist. That is why it is still illegal. Sure, you guys want us around. But, the majority don't.

Posted By: FriendoftheFamily

Any difference is based primarily on choice of career. Where same career comparisons are made the pay is virtually the same.

And do you really think men are against there being sex workers? Seriously? Now THAT'S a good one.

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Mr.Cheeks7 years ago871 reads

Re: such a bullshit statistic

I asked my lawyer friend if he thought there was any chance sex work would ever be decriminalized in this country and his response was, "Not as long as women have the right to vote."

Posted By: StinaValentine

The statistic is debatable, I'll give you that.

And, yes a big portion of society does not want sex work to exist. That is why it is still illegal. Sure, you guys want us around. But, the majority don't.

Posted By: FriendoftheFamily

Any difference is based primarily on choice of career. Where same career comparisons are made the pay is virtually the same.

And do you really think men are against there being sex workers? Seriously? Now THAT'S a good one.

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StinaValentine7 years ago718 reads

Re: such a bullshit statistic

Ha! I don't doubt it. SWERFs believe we are victims of the patriarchy and have no choice but to "sell ourselves". While men (not you guys) have a more puritanical view of what women should be (i.e. chaste or we're dirty BUT not too chaste because then we are prudes), that sex work is not legitimate work because we should give it away to our partners only, and that women are not capable of making decisions about our bodies and how we use them.

Posted By: Mr.Cheeks

I asked my lawyer friend if he thought there was any chance sex work would ever be decriminalized in this country and his response was, "Not as long as women have the right to vote."

Posted By: StinaValentine

The statistic is debatable, I'll give you that.

And, yes a big portion of society does not want sex work to exist. That is why it is still illegal. Sure, you guys want us around. But, the majority don't.

Posted By: FriendoftheFamily

Any difference is based primarily on choice of career. Where same career comparisons are made the pay is virtually the same.

And do you really think men are against there being sex workers? Seriously? Now THAT'S a good one.

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Mr.Cheeks7 years ago777 reads

Re: such a bullshit statistic

I went back and read about the Dunwoody agency bust from a couple years ago, and it said, "Some 26 women - all adults - were identified as 'victims' of the organization."

No mention was made of any of the ladies being arrested; instead, they were called "victims."

This time around they hit all the girls with RICO charges, like they were soldiers in the Gambino Family.

Posted By: StinaValentine

Ha! I don't doubt it. SWERFs believe we are victims of the patriarchy and have no choice but to "sell ourselves". While men (not you guys) have a more puritanical view of what women should be (i.e. chaste or we're dirty BUT not too chaste because then we are prudes), that sex work is not legitimate work because we should give it away to our partners only, and that women are not capable of making decisions about our bodies and how we use them.

Posted By: Mr.Cheeks

I asked my lawyer friend if he thought there was any chance sex work would ever be decriminalized in this country and his response was, "Not as long as women have the right to vote."

Posted By: StinaValentine

The statistic is debatable, I'll give you that.

And, yes a big portion of society does not want sex work to exist. That is why it is still illegal. Sure, you guys want us around. But, the majority don't.

Posted By: FriendoftheFamily

Any difference is based primarily on choice of career. Where same career comparisons are made the pay is virtually the same.

And do you really think men are against there being sex workers? Seriously? Now THAT'S a good one.

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open2suggestions7 years ago647 reads

Re: such a bullshit statistic

RICO? As I understand the definition of racketeering, it essentially involves creating a problem and then selling a solution. Like mafia protection money. In the 1970's RICO was enacted to stipulate that even if the creating of said problem was difficult to prove, the sale of the solution was still indictable. This allows prosecutions to still move forward even when witnesses are too scared to admit they are being bullied or when organizations are so heavily compartmentalized no one can give sound testimony as to the ultimate goal of the group. I see that applicable to things like smuggling, fencing, protection, etc, but someone would really have to walk me through how it has anything to do with prostitution.

I get that due to the way the business end is discretely handled, they may have trouble making prostitution charges stick, but how does that lead to RICO? what problem are they saying is created? what solution is being sold?

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13823167 years ago761 reads

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Like so many other things that start with good intent RICO has been twisted and redefined to far exceed original intent. The idea was to provide a tool to broaden the prosecution of criminal enterprises (read organized crime) by making it easier to prosecute the conspiracy aspects of criminal activity. Overzealous prosecution soon followed and certain members of the judiciary cooperated to allow for some gross miscarriages of justice.
I was drawn into a case with a RICO predicate when a client was busted for money laundering and implicated me and others for 'providing advice' as part of their plea bargain.
I had been hired as a financial consultant and clearly defined the boundaries of what the client could and could not do.
The prosecutor hauled me into court saying that I had conspired with the enterprise by clearly outlining what they shouldn't do - there by providing them with a roadmap of how to operate illegally by doing what I told them not to do. WTF? And the idiot federal judge bought it. I got the ruling tossed on appeal but it was truly an insane ordeal; not to mention the legal expense and the totally unwarranted hit to my reputation with potential clients.