Ashleigh, while I feel you on your position and REALLY APPRECIATE your perspective on the arrangements that are made via TER, I've been reminded much too often that the only "date" that's expected at the end of the allotted time is with that envelope.
When I first ventured into this world that was my ultimate goal to make arrangements where one could get/manufacture/establish as much as possible the "feel" of a "date" and/or creating something that is at least a cut above "busting a nut with ease." I can do that all by myself with Fistina and her five sisters. Experience has now taught me that creating that "dating/match-making" feel is highly elusive and experienced on rare occassions. I'm a "Man with a Slow Hand" kinda guy as I'm into all things sensual; candles, dinners, PDA, massages, showers, baths, time on the town building the moments, etc. Yet the ROI on investments in sessions that I was expecting to unfold in said manner is rarely achieved. And on the occassions when it is, the "feeling/vibe" only lasts an additional date or maybe two. Ladies, and understandably so, tend to become "nervous" of the dudes intentions and/or some BSC real life stuff interrupts the "flow," on either side of the equation, and completely blows up the fantasy. Hence, at the end of the day (I gotta stop using that much over-used statement) it's all about the envelope. In addition, experience has taught me to listen to the big head first as I went through the waste of time and money when the little head over powered me. Hence, I do read the reviews to discern themes that will and/or will not work for me. With that said, I do TOFTT/roll-the-dice on occassion as experiencing the "unknown," in a calculated way, is a turn on for me and one of the reasons I got in the hobby in the first place. If my every encounter had to be overly researched and "planned" I might as well stick to 'SO" sex and mail it in. In short, I wish all providers thought like you as it relates to achieving the "dating/match-making" aspects of the meeting. But alas, if that envelope aint right then it's gonna be some furniture moving around here! LMAO!
ndirectly responding to Life 410’s recent diatribes of drivel about TER being a dating service…..
Yes, when you honestly and candidly think about it, TER is most certainly an upfront and rather informative and innovative “dating service” for the P4P world.
Reviews are written by the shadchan, if you will, to take the guesswork out of trying to deduce which ladies with whom one may or may not click. I am assuming (and please correct me if I’m wrong) that most gents out there do their due diligence and consult reviews when it comes to researching a potential lady friend (even if her pictures are phenomenal -- although I suppose the little head sometimes thinks too impulsively prior to the big head being brought up to full speed!!) prior to even contemplating the idea of sending an introductory e-mail.
Life 410 wrote, “I thought the game was to bust a nut with ease...and sometimes that includes seeing less than attractive women that you may not even really want to be associated with in real life.”
Pardon my French (of which I have been told is quite exquisite, by the way!! *teasing grins*)….. are you fucking kidding me, Life 410?!!
Then again, I’m not a “wham, bam, thank you ma’am” kind of girl. While Life410 outlined his direct goal and objective when it comes to hobbying is to “bust a nut with ease,” even if it’s with someone whom he finds less than attractive, well… this is certainly not a sustaining goal of mine, nor is it for the lovely gentlemen with whom I have been so incredibly blessed to meet.
So with that said, I’d much rather play out the “dating service /matchmaking perspective” and ensure that the time that my gentleman friend and I share together will be mutually enjoyable and satisfying for us both.
Despite my “dating service / matchmaking mentality,” I have no desire to personally date or marry my paramour; however, I just want us to savor, cherish, and genuinely enjoy the time we share together. And isn’t that what it’s all about?
I firmly believe that TER provides a very valuable and beneficial service to us all, be it as a “dating service” or whatever other connotation you want to perceive this forum to be. It provides a win/win situation for us both… and, well….. once again, isn’t that what it’s all about?
To Life410, please know that the words of my post come with no personal ill will toward you As my rather spirited, spunky, ribald, indecorous, now-deceased father was fond of saying, “Opinions are like assholes; everybody has one.”
With good wishes to all for a very Happy Hump Day
I think the guy is a total douche for brains personally.
Now I am what almost anybody here would call a "high volume" guy, but that doesn't mean that just because I like to get laid everyday means that I simply want to stick my dick in any hole that is available. Fuck that, I want to experience a different (or sometimes the same) beautiful woman every day I am still on this earth. Life is short, why should I "settle" when with just a little bit of effort, there is no need. and for the record, while I am not going to wait for weeks, if it's a choice between fucking a woman I am not attracted to, or simply waiting until tomorrow, pig that I am, I am still willing to wait.
Not to mention his premise that you have to "try them all" to know what you like is complete and utter bullshit. As I said on his thread, "I have never sucked a dick, but I don't need to try it to know I wouldn't like it"
and yes, I suppose I don't harbor any ill will towards him either, but he's still a douche for brains, and I doubt my opinion of him is going to change
Now I am what almost anybody here would call a "high volume" guy, but that doesn't mean that just because I like to get laid everyday means that I simply want to stick my dick in any hole that is available. Fuck that, I want to experience a different (or sometimes the same) beautiful woman every day I am still on this earth. Life is short, why should I "settle" when with just a little bit of effort, there is no need. and for the record, while I am not going to wait for weeks, if it's a choice between fucking a woman I am not attracted to, or simply waiting until tomorrow, pig that I am, I am still willing to wait.
Not to mention his premise that you have to "try them all" to know what you like is complete and utter bullshit. As I said on his thread, "I have never sucked a dick, but I don't need to try it to know I wouldn't like it"
and yes, I suppose I don't harbor any ill will towards him either, but he's still a douche for brains, and I doubt my opinion of him is going to change
Have a good time at the bar & then you bring a lady back to bone that may not be the best of looking and hope she leaves you alone after "the cab/walk of shame". you may enjoy hooking up,but do not want to be arm&arm in public. Seems pretty standard to me.
He mentioned a set standard of clean, pay-up, and be respectful. Only controversy was guys being penalized by expression in reviews since it was not apart of the in-person experince.
However, The best part of the threads were the lady's admitting to various practices...and digg being racist. Those threads were more effective than many of us realized at the time
Ashleigh, while I feel you on your position and REALLY APPRECIATE your perspective on the arrangements that are made via TER, I've been reminded much too often that the only "date" that's expected at the end of the allotted time is with that envelope.
When I first ventured into this world that was my ultimate goal to make arrangements where one could get/manufacture/establish as much as possible the "feel" of a "date" and/or creating something that is at least a cut above "busting a nut with ease." I can do that all by myself with Fistina and her five sisters.
Experience has now taught me that creating that "dating/match-making" feel is highly elusive and experienced on rare occassions. I'm a "Man with a Slow Hand" kinda guy as I'm into all things sensual; candles, dinners, PDA, massages, showers, baths, time on the town building the moments, etc. Yet the ROI on investments in sessions that I was expecting to unfold in said manner is rarely achieved. And on the occassions when it is, the "feeling/vibe" only lasts an additional date or maybe two. Ladies, and understandably so, tend to become "nervous" of the dudes intentions and/or some BSC real life stuff interrupts the "flow," on either side of the equation, and completely blows up the fantasy. Hence, at the end of the day (I gotta stop using that much over-used statement) it's all about the envelope.
In addition, experience has taught me to listen to the big head first as I went through the waste of time and money when the little head over powered me. Hence, I do read the reviews to discern themes that will and/or will not work for me. With that said, I do TOFTT/roll-the-dice on occassion as experiencing the "unknown," in a calculated way, is a turn on for me and one of the reasons I got in the hobby in the first place. If my every encounter had to be overly researched and "planned" I might as well stick to 'SO" sex and mail it in.
In short, I wish all providers thought like you as it relates to achieving the "dating/match-making" aspects of the meeting.
But alas, if that envelope aint right then it's gonna be some furniture moving around here! LMAO!
Which means the majority of gentlemen here want to be treated and act as if it's a date. I think what Life410 is looking for is a blow and go and he's pissed off that not everyone here wants to be treated like a blow up doll. Also of course we aren't going to see someone who would call someone "fugly" in a review. There are plenty of better ways to express your dissatisfaction with a provider's appearance while remaining tactful and polite, and the use of those words indicates a lack of respect toward women in general.
Yeah sure we all like to make money, but we want to enjoy our time as well. I originally got into the biz as a way to satiate my sexual appetite without feeling used or getting attached in the process. Still, I like to think of my regulars as my "boyfriends" and I tell them this and they are tickled by the idea. I enjoy friendship just as much as I enjoy sex and money, so I wouldn't necessarily say I'm acting and I'm sure other women feel the same way.
The only issue you or anyone else has is expression in reviews and/or board post being used against guys....which was 1 of several points. And now we see a guy mention being banned for reviews of bad times at jennifers model because he attached his identity/verification/reference to it.
...is that the next time I see you, and the fifth time I see you, and the twelfth and twentieth and all the ones in between are going to be "dates" in my book. 😚
At the risk of getting too philosophic, we see semantic arguments all the time on Internet, this message board included, where we argue until we're blue in the face in those long threads.
Is what we do in this "hobby" dating?
If I pay for it, it's not cheating, right?
I love my clients? Wait, is that love?
You're racist! No, I'm not!
GFE, GFE not, GFE, GFE not, GFE, GFE not. . . GFE+!
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I have been doing this and I really enjoy it. Yes I started because the money is great and if one is smart about saving her dollars you can save a lot! But I couldn't do this for as long as I have been if I didn't enjoy it. I have met some wonderful people in this business and made also some strong connections that I wouldn't of otherwise made.
I know providers that have met clients and then got into serious dating relationships with them. Are they still together? Well, no. But it does and can happen. We are all human being after all, not robots. You don't just drop a quarter into the slot and then we perform. 
There is more to it. Feelings, thoughts, opinions and perceptions and attractions all come into play.
In this world anything is possible. It is not so black and white as some would like to think. Friendships have been made where envelopes aren't involved. Relationships come about, and feelings pop up. I choose to be a welcoming " hostess", and NOT get romantically involved but as I said I LOVE what I do.