That happened to a friend of mine. After 8 in a day she refused a 9th and that was her last day working for them. Not until after she paid for her own room the next day and wasn't booked a single appt. They also like to not give you any notice for the appointments expecting you to stay there and wait all day and might for appts. They do this so you can't sneak appointments of our own.
I'm fortunate to have been Indy my whole time in this biz but I do consider trying an agency out from time to time when I am planning on traveling to a new place. But who's to say I soildndo any better with them?!Are independent girls generally lower volume than agencies? Obviously the more an agency girl works the more the agency makes. An agency girl with good reviews sees how many people a day when touring? 5-6? 8-10? Just curious. I had wondered in my head when a girl is booked for the whole day, how many people is she seeing
The agency makes it's money on volume, and since the girl is splitting up to 50% of her gross with the agency, she also has the incentive to work more to meet her financial objectives. If she's touring, then yes, she has a higher baseline of expenses than when at home. But there are plenty of independents who'll work around the clock.
As for specific volume, it all depends on the individual. There are (agency) girls who can only physically/mentally handle two guys a day max, and others who can take on 10. If she's booked for the whole day, that could mean that she's seen someone every hour or had one or two long appointments (and everything in between). Unless she leaves a big pile of used towels out for you to see, it's difficult to know for sure; as long as she performs up to par, what does it matter?
The time you spend together is high quality and memorable. I've seen ladies who were low volume but the sessions were sub par. And I have also seen many agency ladies and our time together has been great.
Read plenty of reviews and pay more attention to other factors such as personality, age, likes and dislikes, etc. those things will have a bigger impact on your time together.
Lets face it, these ladies are not in this business to remain virgins. Why concern yourself with things you have no control over and has no effect on you?
Try not to focus on numbers and spend more time worry about how well she performs. Some guys think that being a girl's 1st appointment of the day, that they are going to get her at her best. But reality is, some of these young girls aren't really morning people and dread having to wake up in the morning to see clients. So you really won't get her at her best.
A girl can tell you that you are the only person she's seen that day, but you really never know the truth. You could be the 15th and never know (if shes good). So lets not concern ourselves with it.
My .02
I'm pretty much with DCSkinsFan on this; why worry unless it clearly reduces the experience you and the girl get to share?
That said, I'm would be curious to know more about the business from a pure economics perspective and clearly quantity output would be an aspect of that. However, rather than assuming that the girls using an agency must be higher volume than pure independants I'be asking if that's really a safe assumption.
around here that she had to agree to meet at least five guys per day to be on the agency "roster.
Very true!
I don't need a boss, I am a self sufficient woman and I can manage my money, my schedule, who I want meet, who I don't want to meet, get my money right there and not wait a month for an agency to pay back.
Making more money as a independent than working with an agency and working less!!
I'm not a clock watcher and I would hate to be called when the time is up, when I arrived.
I always encourage my friends to support small business (Independents).
It's like, 'Uhm, thanks a lot. This guy was about to pop and your phone call just ruined it!'
What is this, mcdonalds?! Nope. I consider myself fine dining, not fast food. No rotating cattle in and out.
While gentleman try hard not to stay a minute over, when they're so worried about leaving exactly on time, it makes me feel odd too! I have my system to make the guy feel wanted, and the departure as natural as possible. The only time the guy leaves the minute his time is up, is when I know he's trying to manipulate and milk for more time. That very rarely happens. Most of my clients have returned and booked longer dates because the 'times cattle house' effect was non existent. Except when I was on someone else's time. (Agency or commission based booker.)
It felt inhumane both to me and the client. As they were stumbling out the door, I kept saying, "sorry... Sorry...' Lol!
Regarding administrative, marketing, and connections agencies had - I had my clients passed on to the higher volume ladies. There was definitely a group of providers who never lacked business. When I complained, and threatened to quit, all of a sudden I had a bunch of clients book.
I'm not saying ALL agencies work this way, but from my experience, it does. There is a benefit to working through an agency because of their brand, their client lists, their marketing, connections, and experience in attracting clients; however, here in Chicago my average bookings are two in a week, sometimes one weekend or overnight in two weeks. When I tour, I per book two in a day, because touring gets tiring. Maybe three if I feel good and a last minute booking comes through. Agencies don't like that, even if I'm paying my own expenses.
Whenever I hired someone, (except one girl,) I was on the phone from 8am - 12am answering questions, and helping them remember things I'd said a million times. I had no personal time whatsoever. I also like the guys to get a feel for me through email communication, and I am more accurate when I do my own writing in ads.
In the end, I net the same, if not more.
P.S. The agencies also tried to get me to lower our rates, while their cut remained the same.. No thanks
Very true!
I don't need a boss, I am a self sufficient woman and I can manage my money, my schedule, who I want meet, who I don't want to meet, get my money right there and not wait a month for an agency to pay back.
Making more money as a independent than working with an agency and working less!!
I'm not a clock watcher and I would hate to be called when the time is up, when I arrived.
I always encourage my friends to support small business (Independents).
That happened to a friend of mine. After 8 in a day she refused a 9th and that was her last day working for them. Not until after she paid for her own room the next day and wasn't booked a single appt. They also like to not give you any notice for the appointments expecting you to stay there and wait all day and might for appts. They do this so you can't sneak appointments of our own.
I'm fortunate to have been Indy my whole time in this biz but I do consider trying an agency out from time to time when I am planning on traveling to a new place. But who's to say I soildndo any better with them?!
So why do such agencies survive if they treat the providers they are servicing so poorly? I would think these agencies would get blacklisted by the girls just the same as any hobbyist who misbehaves.
if i knew I was the 5th client that day I'd give her the donation, chat for a few minutes and then leave to let her get some sleep.
Fortunately, it would never happen because I would never see an agency provider.