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Why is it every time we learn about secret details about the Iranian deal...confused_smile
JackDunphy 560 reads
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it's LESS restrictive than what we were previously told?

So the breakout time will now change from 1 year to 6 months or less.

Remind me again.

Who here thinks this was a good deal?

were broadcast all over the media last year, and even discussed by Mr. Obama on NPR:

“But American officials also acknowledged that after the first decade, the breakout time would begin to shrink. It was unclear how rapidly, because Iran’s longer-term plans to expand its enrichment capability will be kept confidential.”

      President Obama himself said that in year 13 breakout time might be down to zero bc he expected Iran to start using those centrifuges:

 
“The concern that Iran’s breakout time could shrink sharply in the waning years of the restrictions has already been a contentious issue in Congress. Mr. Obama contributed to that in an interview with National Public Radio in April, when he said that in “year 13, 14, 15” of the agreement, the breakout time might shrink “almost down to zero,” as Iran is expected to develop and use advanced centrifuges then.”

 
        Sorry , Jack, hope you weren't counting on that Pulitizer Prize. LO

The sources spoke on a condition of anonymity so why would they have to do that if the document was public? LOL

Shit even the U.S. official quoted in the article spoke anonymously as well.  

And why would that be? Hmmmm?

They are STILL keeping details of the agreement out of the publics knowledge with a totalitarian state that is the leading the world in exporting terrorism.

A deal where we got our ass handed to us

St. Croix114 reads

Boeing is going to sell a shit load of airplanes to Iran, and that's just the aviation market. They have a lot of money, and they are going to spend it with somebody. Doesn't sound like the DNA of a crazed "gotta go to paradise and get my 72 virgins" Muslims. Just let the capitalist side of your brain dominate the national security side for awhile. And how else can we influence the masses if we don't have a KFC chicken in one hand, and a coke in the other.  

I gotta admit, if push comes to shove, I'm taking the Shiites over the Sunnis. I don't have the latest statistics, but I believe the Sunnis are completely dominating the terror market. Granted Iran is supporting Hezbollah and Hamas, but that's a regional problem. Shiites are much more Westernized than the Sunnis, and always have been.  

I gotta stop watching "The Shahs of Sunset" and going to Nordstrom.  

Posted By: JackDunphy
The sources spoke on a condition of anonymity so why would they have to do that if the document was public? LOL  
   
 Shit even the U.S. official quoted in the article spoke anonymously as well.  
   
 And why would that be? Hmmmm?  
   
 They are STILL keeping details of the agreement out of the publics knowledge with a totalitarian state that is the leading the world in exporting terrorism.  
   
 A deal where we got our ass handed to us.  
 

between Iran and the UN agency to whom the submission was made. The source is leaking the terms of the document.

       Presumably, the document says “yes, we will start researching state of the art centrifuges in year 8” and “yes we will start putting state of the art centrifuges in operation in year 11 as part of our peaceful nuclear program.” Depending on much they enrich, their breakout time will be reduced accordingly- Mr. Obama gave the worst case scenario- zero breakout time in year 13.

         But all of this was known to the administration and, more important, disclosed to Congress BEFORE the vote on the Iran agreement. Congress didn't like it but the Republican controlled Congress voted in favor of the agreement with this knowledge.
     
       Bottom line is unchanged- if no agreement, Iran would have the bomb now if they so desired. With the agreement, breakout time is one year for the next decade at least.

       So what is the problem, aside from a  slow news day

Remember, this POTUS said he would run "the MOST transparent admin in U.S. history" and here we are with two diplomats and a U.S. official having to "out" this deal bc Obama refused to live up to his campaign promise.

The problem, Mr. Head in the Sand, is that this deal was very unpopular with the American people and would have been that much more politically untenable had these secret side deals with a terrorist state, which had a hand in killing U.S. soldiers in Iraq, been made public at the time

I'm not sure if he's a compulsive  liar or he doesn't proof read his speech writer  for accuracy.  
  Regardless the Iranian deal was ignorant.  
    We could have kept the screws on Iran without going to war.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2016/07/14/iran-nuclear-deal-obama-kerry-anniversary-column/87003664/

 Four pages of lies.http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barackobama/statements/byruling/false/
   There are many more.

Posted By: JackDunphy
Remember, this POTUS said he would run "the MOST transparent admin in U.S. history" and here we are with two diplomats and a U.S. official having to "out" this deal bc Obama refused to live up to his campaign promise.  
   
 The problem, Mr. Head in the Sand, is that this deal was very unpopular with the American people and would have been that much more politically untenable had these secret side deals with a terrorist state, which had a hand in killing U.S. soldiers in Iraq, been made public at the time.  
   
   
 

It was THIS deal or WAR!

Those were the ONLY two options. LOL

Why would he lie? LOL

Of course, we’ve already unfrozen that $150 billion, international sanctions have been lifted,  many US sanctions have been lifted, and the EU is clamoring for Iran business, but I think this is one of Mr. Trump’s better ideas.

        Because he will show the Iranians what a tough negotiator he is and all the Iranians will be able to do is …well, I guess start dusting off those centrifuges they put in storage,  begin enriching uranium for a bomb, and spending that $150 billion on weapons development,  since they will not be bound by the agreement once Mr. Trump rips it up.

       Yes, one of his better ideas

If they even try that, Trump and Bibi will bomb the fuck out of them, they will lose their nuke capability, lose their economy, choke on their oil which would probably lead to regime change from within

keep atomic energy information provided by member countries confidential.  The IAEA could no more disclose Iran’s confidential nuclear information than it could disclose nuclear information provided by the United States. And if they did, I doubt Iran would ever again give them truthful information if any. Duh.

       As to the President’s promise to run the “most transparent admin in US history” –did you bump your head on the “Report This Post” button? What part of  
“International Atomic Energy Agency” fooled you into believing the IAEA is part of the Obama administration? We provide some funding but they are not a US flunky. As I understand it, they report to the UN but I’m not sure that they are even bound to do what the UN tells them.

Posted By: JackDunphy
Remember, this POTUS said he would run "the MOST transparent admin in U.S. history" and here we are with two diplomats and a U.S. official having to "out" this deal bc Obama refused to live up to his campaign promise.  
   
 The problem, Mr. Head in the Sand, is that this deal was very unpopular with the American people and would have been that much more politically untenable had these secret side deals with a terrorist state, which had a hand in killing U.S. soldiers in Iraq, been made public at the time.  
   
   
 

You don't sign the deal without making ALL the parts public and open for debate.

Having "secret side deals" with a terrorist state is bowing down before them and kissing their ring.

Duh.

saltyballs86 reads

......to get us involved in an unnecessary war in Iraq, depleting our treasury with 4000 dead troops dead and almost 60,000 injured. You folks just never learn!
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Posted By: JackDunphy
You don't sign the deal without making ALL the parts public and open for debate.  
   
 Having "secret side deals" with a terrorist state is bowing down before them and kissing their ring.  
   
 Duh.

brooks588 reads

they agree that whatever you said about Obama is true cuz they have run out of stuff to say

NOBODY can defend this clown

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