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As a fan of COF, here's what I don't get about this...red_smile
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As many know from my reviews and posts, I'm a fan of COF (duh). As such, I have happily provided my love lotion for hundreds of beautiful faces here in the ATL and elsewhere. I have never once came at it (no pun) from a mindset of 'degradation'. Quite the opposite...I feel honored and happen to think the ladies look so fucking sexy BUT, only if they are truly ok with it. I have never (or will never) push the issue if a lady is not ok with it and happily cum where they are comfortable. If not comfortable for them it would end up sucking for both of us. That's just me, though.

Just about every mainstream porn scene ends with COF and the reason is simple: demand. Men buy and watch the major majority of it because of the fantasy and like it or not, that fantasy ends in a facial.  

Much like porn, being an escort is providing a fantasy as well as sexual release to men in return for compensation. As such, I would think a provider of fantasy (unless they've been living under a rock and haven't seen mainstream porn in the last 20 years) would be fully aware of the popularity facials have in the male population, the demo of who they're getting business from.

Here's what I don't get: Knowing the popularity of COF in sex fantasy culture, why WOULDN'T a provider offer this? Seems at odds with marketplace demand. That's not to say every guy wants that from a lady but considering it's appeal, I'm surprised there are any ladies THAT WON'T provide this, especially considering the level of competition for the hobbyist $ in ATL.

If it makes some ladies wanna hurl or gag just thinking about it, I get it. Thinking about a golden shower makes me ill. But not offering COF considering it's popularity because you'd 'have to you do your make-up or hair again' (though putting your hair up would eliviate most issues) seems a bit silly considering the nature of the business and the amount of money being exchanged for an hour of 'work'.

That's like becoming president then complaining cause you have to wear a tie!  

If any ladies reading this have contemplated trying COF but haven't as of yet, pm me as I'd be happy to help in any way I can :)

Sir Cumalot

I travel for a living. Unfortunately I can only afford to hobby once (possibly twice) a month. Thus, I spend a lot of time watching porn in my hotel room. It seems more and more the videos end with with a facial. Just wondering what the infatuation is with that ?

I've done it once or twice just to try something different. I didn't really experience a great thrill out of it. Just wondering how many think it's degrading, who think it's hot ?  

For the ladies, as long as it doesn't get in your eyes (or hair) are you okay with it ?

Thoughts ?

Thanks

It's not a deal breaker, but I do really enjoy CIM .

What's up with the guy jacking it before he gives a facial?.. It would be more fun if the girl did the work.  

Posted By: XLTrojan
I travel for a living. Unfortunately I can only afford to hobby once (possibly twice) a month. Thus, I spend a lot of time watching porn in my hotel room. It seems more and more the videos end with with a facial. Just wondering what the infatuation is with that ?  
   
 I've done it once or twice just to try something different. I didn't really experience a great thrill out of it. Just wondering how many think it's degrading, who think it's hot ?  
   
 For the ladies, as long as it doesn't get in your eyes (or hair) are you okay with it ?  
   
 Thoughts ?  
   
 Thanks

........it is kind of problematic because makeup and hair are always ruined and take a a great deal of time to restore so therefore it comes at a premium but I do get a kick out of it, all warm and sticky.. I know next question is going to be how much ???? I guess hence the "moneyshot" moniker .............................. ..........i aime à avaler tout.........suzee
 

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The money shot originated in porn as a way to illustrate that the sex was real. In soft core porn there are lots of facial contortions and grunting, but no 'evidence' that the guy came.

Whether it is on the face or body, a jizz shot proves the climax happened and usually ends the scene,

CIM is interesting - lots of power dynamics there from a psych- perspective, basically the guy is dominating the girl in her most sensitive area (eyes, lips) - up close so that she sees it coming (literally) and proving that you are the boss. Cumming anywhere else on a girls body has the exact same physical experience, but the face has an amplified emotional experience. It has that submissive quality that many guys lack in real life where the female - male dynamic is very much different.

In civilian life, while I am sure some girls endure it, if not enjoy it - it is often considered impolite and gross. Therefore it takes on a mystique and forbidden quality - like lobster - unlikely that you get it much at home.

For me - all of the above. Exciting, unusual, dominant, anticipatory and visually I dig the whole Krispy Kreme look afterwards :)

I think the porn idea with facials is a domination thing. There's an appeal to see a pretty face get decorated by Peter North...then cut to the next scene.  

The reality of the cleanup afterwards is hilarious if you ever watched those 'blooper reels' where the starlet BMC's (Bitches, Moans. Complains) about having to remove all her make-up, wash her hair and use Visine for a week because ol' BeerCan Pete. A few others said "I should get hazard pay".

I've done it in civvie and hobby but my ladies were concerned about hair, eyes, and often just took it on the cheek only to listen to complaints like those blooper reels. Guess COF is one of those impractical things.

My preference for an External finish is on T&A - either finishing on her bosom (and seriously, who doesn't love boobs) or quickly removing the condom after intense doggie to finish on her butt. Though of the two, bosom is better for me as I can see the satisfaction on her face as well my stamp of approval on her chest.  Looks beautiful and easy clean-up!

Like you, internal is always better. Since the bag is not always conducive for the finish, CIM works best.

But as a man-whore, I'll take what I can get... lol
ga_kos

Even if the woman says she likes it, I don't do it (except by accident0.

I agree. Not a fan of it. I "did it" by accident once where some of it got on her face. We just awkwardly laughed it off, made a joke about. Moved on.

Posted By: donbecker54
Even if the woman says she likes it, I don't do it (except by accident0.

It's one of those things that doesn't really matter one way or another, I've seen ladies who love it and I've seen ladies that would crush your nuts if you got it in their hair..

My suggestion to guys that want that finish, you may consider/request being the last appointment (or only) of the day, my guess is she would more willing to let you ruin her makeup since she's going to be taking it off after you leave anyway.

There is something about a hot 18-25 year old under you while you straddle her and cum in her mouth and face.  Funny but this is considered normal at some agencies and off limits with BP girls.  Not sure why.  I never felt the lady found it degrading and I always clean up my mess. If allowed, I end every session that way. PM me for ladies that are good with it.

I like to cum
I like cim but sometimes its nice to paint a ladys boobs or face
I like when she is open to cof and her open her mouth for some cim too!

Count me in the "not really into it camp".
It doesn't do anything for me and most girls are going to be worried about their hair, eyes, makeup etc.

I think a very interesting thread (at least for me) would be "How do you finish?" for guys.  With kind of a percentage for the various options. And "How do you like us to finish?" for girls.  But the girls would very likely say "however you want" as we are the clients.  Ok, how about "What makes you cum?" for the girls...

One of the sexiest things I ever heard was when I asked a lady where she wanted me to cum and she said "wherever you want ".

I agree - that is hot to hear from a woman.

At least she didn't say "out the window".  LOL

Posted By: XLTrojan
One of the sexiest things I ever heard was when I asked a lady where she wanted me to cum and she said "wherever you want ".

Yes! That is the perfect answer.

BernardShakey374 reads

After unloading in a gals mouth the first time we hooked up, a civvie I flipped to p4p, she looked up at me after showing it and swallowing it and cooed "OMG I don't even do that for my boyfriend." Perfect.

I prefer it down my throat to all over my face.  I'm a vegetarian and I've gotta get my protein somehow!  And rubbing perfectly good cum all over my face is kinda like getting a delicious ice cream cone and then rubbing it all over yourself instead of eating it... kind of a waste of good ice cream- but HEY- whatever gets you off!  And it can always be licked off the face afterwards...

I don't wear any makeup and always wash my hair between appointments, so the mess factor isn't really a big deal for me.  Bull semen is used as a conditioning skin and hair treatment in some fancy salons and products.  It's actually pretty good for the skin.  ;)

My favorite place to have someone come is in my armpit though.  The cum looks so good all white and gooey mixed with my dark armpit hairs, and it's pretty fun to try to lick it out afterwards too.  :D

As many know from my reviews and posts, I'm a fan of COF (duh). As such, I have happily provided my love lotion for hundreds of beautiful faces here in the ATL and elsewhere. I have never once came at it (no pun) from a mindset of 'degradation'. Quite the opposite...I feel honored and happen to think the ladies look so fucking sexy BUT, only if they are truly ok with it. I have never (or will never) push the issue if a lady is not ok with it and happily cum where they are comfortable. If not comfortable for them it would end up sucking for both of us. That's just me, though.

Just about every mainstream porn scene ends with COF and the reason is simple: demand. Men buy and watch the major majority of it because of the fantasy and like it or not, that fantasy ends in a facial.  

Much like porn, being an escort is providing a fantasy as well as sexual release to men in return for compensation. As such, I would think a provider of fantasy (unless they've been living under a rock and haven't seen mainstream porn in the last 20 years) would be fully aware of the popularity facials have in the male population, the demo of who they're getting business from.

Here's what I don't get: Knowing the popularity of COF in sex fantasy culture, why WOULDN'T a provider offer this? Seems at odds with marketplace demand. That's not to say every guy wants that from a lady but considering it's appeal, I'm surprised there are any ladies THAT WON'T provide this, especially considering the level of competition for the hobbyist $ in ATL.

If it makes some ladies wanna hurl or gag just thinking about it, I get it. Thinking about a golden shower makes me ill. But not offering COF considering it's popularity because you'd 'have to you do your make-up or hair again' (though putting your hair up would eliviate most issues) seems a bit silly considering the nature of the business and the amount of money being exchanged for an hour of 'work'.

That's like becoming president then complaining cause you have to wear a tie!  

If any ladies reading this have contemplated trying COF but haven't as of yet, pm me as I'd be happy to help in any way I can :)

Sir Cumalot

Posted By: roanoke1979

   
 Here's what I don't get: Knowing the popularity of COF in sex fantasy culture, why WOULDN'T a provider offer this? Seems at odds with marketplace demand. That's not to say every guy wants that from a lady but considering it's appeal, I'm surprised there are any ladies THAT WON'T provide this, especially considering the level of competition for the hobbyist $ in ATL.
Some reasons not to:

Eye infection
Eye burning
Eye Pain
Eye redness/swelling (lasting up to an entire day)
STD risk

The extra time needed to wash hair, re-style hair plus time to re-do makeup. Would you want to schedule and pay ladies for an extra hour of their time just so you can finish that way?  

I think the reason it's so popular in porn is that they want to get the finish "on screen" - so they show the finish on the woman's body or face. How else would the viewer know the guy came, if you can't see it happen?  

In the real world, COF is not as popular a fantasy as you think it is. There is not a lot of "marketplace demand" for COF, so ladies do just fine without it. It seems "popular" to you because it's something you personally enjoy

You:
'Some reasons not to:  
Eye infection  
Eye burning  
Eye Pain  
Eye redness/swelling (lasting up to an entire day)  
STD risk'

Doesn't sound fun but the fact that most of us engage in uncovered bbbj/daty on a regular basis is just as much as (if not more) of an STD threat. The eye infection, burning, pain, and redness/swelling is easily avoided by shutting the eyes and carefully wiping the semen away. A gentleman (like myself) will happily get or have ready a warm washcloth or baby wipe ready to clean a lady up before peepers are opened.

You:
'The extra time needed to wash hair, re-style hair plus time to re-do makeup. Would you want to schedule and pay ladies for an extra hour of their time just so you can finish that way?'

Maybe, depends on the lady. There are many ladies with PSE upgrade rates from there regular GFE rates and factor items such a that in.  

You:
'I think the reason it's so popular in porn is that they want to get the finish "on screen" - so they show the finish on the woman's body or face. How else would the viewer know the guy came, if you can't see it happen?'

True, but again, the major majority of mainstream porn scenes end with a facial cum shot, not body, and this is not by accident. The consumer (mostly men) react to COF and that drives sales.  

You:
'In the real world, COF is not as popular a fantasy as you think it is. There is not a lot of "marketplace demand" for COF, so ladies do just fine without it. It seems "popular" to you because it's something you personally enjoy.'

I can assure you, I'm just as much in the 'real world' as you are. Most hobbyists reading your reviews to consider whether approaching you for an appointment know COF is not on your menu and as such, don't bring it up. Just because a guy doesn't ask for it from you does not mean there's not a 'marketplace demand' for it. From all the pm's, emails, and requests I receive, I can assure you there is a demand.  

In the 'real world' most men can't explore facials with their wives or SO's for whatever reason. They are going to a provider for an 'unreal' experience they can't get elsewhere...fantasy, or whatever you want to call it. If it's not something a lady is comfortable with, so be it. The consumer will make the choice anyway.

As you said, some (I'd say most) ladies do just fine without it. Some of the most incredible sexual experiences of my life have been with you personally and a facial has never happened. I'll fully admit that you are so outstanding, that lack of the COF option is not a deterrent. It's no secret by anyone on this board that I crush on you hard and would love to see you all the time :)

Anyway, there's my thoughts,

Sir Cumalot

Posted By: roanoke1979
I can assure you, I'm just as much in the 'real world' as you are. Most hobbyists reading your reviews to consider whether approaching you for an appointment know COF is not on your menu and as such, don't bring it up. Just because a guy doesn't ask for it from you does not mean there's not a 'marketplace demand' for it. From all the pm's, emails, and requests I receive, I can assure you there is a demand.
I can assure you, I have more experience with men than you do. ;) In all of my years of being sexually active, I can only recall one man who asked for it...  

I believe it's something that men enjoy watching in porn, but don't actually enjoy doing as much in real life. COF is popular in porn, but in real life, the vast majority want CIM or want to finish during penetration.

It may surprise you, but most clients don't read TER regularly. Of those who do, many don't have VIP to read the reviews, to read 'menu' details on profiles, or use the PM feature. I don't advertise a 'menu' so most men wouldn't know if it's something I enjoy.

I agree that bbj has a similar STD risk. I only mentioned it as a reason a lady may not offer it. Closing the eyes doesn't always keep it out. It only takes one stinging experience for some ladies to say "never again!" :P

I'm not saying there is no demand. I'm saying that the demand is not as high as you believe it to be. You should do what you enjoy with ladies who share your pleasures. There is nothing wrong with that. You asked why many ladies don't offer it, so I answered with some reasons.

ir C: If a poll was held, you might very well be the Peter North of the ATL TER Board. You make excellent points about the purchase of 'fantasy fulfillment' via the Hobby. COF is the finish of choice in porn these days and obviously your finish of choice. You also rightfully state that it's consensual for it to happen, so it's not degrading from either involved party's POV

Meena: Yo make excellent counter points which I conclude as "It's messy, it's risky and most of my clients aren't interested in it."

I would add though that even though Men stereo-typically view porn more than Women, women watch it more than you might think (see link below).
There are also articles about the types of porn women prefer... often not COF.

Thanks for sharing,
ga_kos

You know I have to report you for that.
It's clearly an infraction of section 232.3b of the Man code.
Two more violations of that severity and you'll have to forfeit your man card.

Sorry buddy, nothing personal.  I'm going to write you up just as soon as this Dr. Phil episode is over.

Ah, shoot...
Ok...
Here's the deal - I won't tell if you won't.

;-)
 

Posted By: ga_kosh
 
 Sir C: If a poll was held, you might very well be the Peter North of the ATL TER Board. You make excellent points about the purchase of 'fantasy fulfillment' via the Hobby. COF is the finish of choice in porn these days and obviously your finish of choice. You also rightfully state that it's consensual for it to happen, so it's not degrading from either involved party's POV  
   
 Meena: Yo make excellent counter points which I conclude as "It's messy, it's risky and most of my clients aren't interested in it."  
   
 I would add though that even though Men stereo-typically view porn more than Women, women watch it more than you might think (see link below).  
 There are also articles about the types of porn women prefer... often not COF.  
   
 Thanks for sharing,  
 ga_kosh  
   
   
   
   
 

AskMen
The Frisky
Cosmo

So yeah, I read all kinds of things.

"Hi, I'm Kosh and I'm a nerd."  
"All jocks think about is sports. All nerds think about is sex."  

In fact, if it appears, the pic below shows my teenaged brain on drugs

Since I've had zero 'experiences' with men, you definitely have me beat in that department HA!  

On the other hand, I actually am a man and in my 30 yea...ok, 40 years in this world, I have had and still do have many male friends that bro-up, drink beers, hang and talk about hot chicks such as yourself (not u literally, you know what I mean). I can't tell you how many have said they wished they could try COF with there wives or gf's (and in some cases boyfriends) but that was considered taboo or off limits. Our experiences are our own, I guess.

Either way, thanks for your insight and info. Always interesting and appreciated.

Sir C

BernardShakey350 reads

is while COF not a deal breaker for me, its great to see some ladies show their real attitudes so I can pass them by. Most likely a win/win.

Posted By: BernardShakey
is while COF not a deal breaker for me, its great to see some ladies show their real attitudes so I can pass them by. Most likely a win/win.

....or where you can come was summed up pretty well by the great poet (okay poet is a stretch) Lil' Kim when she says in the 'Freaky Gurl (Remix)' "got 'em cummin' everywhere. I'ma freak, so I don't care, just don't get none in my hair". :)

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Wash with warm water. Her skin was flawless and smooth as a babies butt.  I also like the above "anywhere you want".  

I have got to have CIM.

GaGambler455 reads

and the first time she literally begged me to do it. I personally prefer CIM, but as the reviews always say "who was I to refuse?" and just like your ex she spread it all over her face until it dried as well.

Hey, your ex wasn't a hot little Chinese girl from Taiwan, was she? lol

The only bad part of COF for me (as mentioned above) is if it gets in my eyes. My hair and makeup I can fix, but I wear contacts so if it gets in my eyes they will be so red that Cheech and Chong couldn't compare for at least 8 hours lol.  

Posted By: XLTrojan
I travel for a living. Unfortunately I can only afford to hobby once (possibly twice) a month. Thus, I spend a lot of time watching porn in my hotel room. It seems more and more the videos end with with a facial. Just wondering what the infatuation is with that ?  
   
 I've done it once or twice just to try something different. I didn't really experience a great thrill out of it. Just wondering how many think it's degrading, who think it's hot ?  
   
 For the ladies, as long as it doesn't get in your eyes (or hair) are you okay with it ?  
   
 Thoughts ?  
   
 Thanks

But, this is a huge turn on for me.  I am 100% in agreement with roanoke1979.  I love reading his reviews and everything he has posted is spot on!  Thank you roanoke for speaking up for COF...LOL

...there are many wonderful ladies here and what a blessing to have so many great choices, whether COF is on their menu or not. I would see every one of them if I had the $, youth, and time. Oh yeah, and the stamina.

The most important thing is to make sure your partner is completely comfortable and ok with a facial. If there is even a hint of hesitation from them about it, save it for another day and lady and finish where she feels comfortable.  

Sir Cumalot

Like you said so far is not going to my eyes or hair i like it ;

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