& I always felt that Trump would kick Bernie's ass in the general. No doubt about it.
The polls have it as a virtual dead heat, but I think the polls here are just as misleading as the ones showing Bernie with a huge lead over Trump if he were the Democratic candidate in the fall.
While I have always maintained that Trump has a "punchers chance" of winning, I think anyone calling it an even race at this point is fooling themselves. As much as I detest her, it's still Hillary's race to lose and the odds makers agree. Despite the current polls, Hillary is still a 2-5 favorite to win and I think those odds are more reflective of her actual chance of winning than the current polling numbers would lead one to believe. Hillary also makes a very valid point where it comes to Bernie, Bernie has not had a single negative ad run against him as the underdog. If he were to become the Democratic nominee that would change in a hurry. We will never know for sure, but I think Trump would win easily against Sanders. Hillary is by far the more formidable opponent.
but I don't disagree on the side you might think.
The polls have it as a virtual dead heat, but I think the polls here are just as misleading as the ones showing Bernie with a huge lead over Trump if he were the Democratic candidate in the fall.
While I have always maintained that Trump has a "punchers chance" of winning, I think anyone calling it an even race at this point is fooling themselves. As much as I detest her, it's still Hillary's race to lose and the odds makers agree. Despite the current polls, Hillary is still a 2-5 favorite to win and I think those odds are more reflective of her actual chance of winning than the current polling numbers would lead one to believe. Hillary also makes a very valid point where it comes to Bernie, Bernie has not had a single negative ad run against him as the underdog. If he were to become the Democratic nominee that would change in a hurry. We will never know for sure, but I think Trump would win easily against Sanders. Hillary is by far the more formidable opponent.
& I always felt that Trump would kick Bernie's ass in the general. No doubt about it.
The polls have it as a virtual dead heat, but I think the polls here are just as misleading as the ones showing Bernie with a huge lead over Trump if he were the Democratic candidate in the fall.
While I have always maintained that Trump has a "punchers chance" of winning, I think anyone calling it an even race at this point is fooling themselves. As much as I detest her, it's still Hillary's race to lose and the odds makers agree. Despite the current polls, Hillary is still a 2-5 favorite to win and I think those odds are more reflective of her actual chance of winning than the current polling numbers would lead one to believe. Hillary also makes a very valid point where it comes to Bernie, Bernie has not had a single negative ad run against him as the underdog. If he were to become the Democratic nominee that would change in a hurry. We will never know for sure, but I think Trump would win easily against Sanders. Hillary is by far the more formidable opponent.
In other words, as new polling is disseminated, it takes it awhile for it to reach the betting public. So polling will always be a few days/weeks ahead of were the money goes. Polls affect the betting line.
No I wouldnt call it a dead heat yet either but I can tell you both camps feel quite differently about their chances today than they did just two weeks ago. The next batch of state polls should,prove to be very interesting. Trumps message is going to play very well in Pa, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, etc. imho.
The current polling may be showing Trumps bump of winning the nomination, even presumptively so, and it may also mean some R's are coming home. Time will tell.
This is big news for Trump as most here, including myself, thought there would be a contested convention and all the vitriol that would go along with that.
Trump now has almost a full 6 months to get the establishment, or a good portion of it, behind him. Hillary doing stupid shit like addressing the Trayvon Martin foundation in a speech, will push many more R's towards Trump.
The current polling showing a dead heat may be misleading, of course that is a possibility, but the massive movement towards Trump isn't. That's a fact. The question is does it have any staying power
Not stupid at all. How does Trump get the win when people of color, who make up 30% of the electorate despise him ?
& if the movement toward him is "massive", why doesn't he at least have a 5% lead rather than a dead heat ?
No I wouldnt call it a dead heat yet either but I can tell you both camps feel quite differently about their chances today than they did just two weeks ago. The next batch of state polls should,prove to be very interesting. Trumps message is going to play very well in Pa, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, etc. imho.
The current polling may be showing Trumps bump of winning the nomination, even presumptively so, and it may also mean some R's are coming home. Time will tell.
This is big news for Trump as most here, including myself, thought there would be a contested convention and all the vitriol that would go along with that.
Trump now has almost a full 6 months to get the establishment, or a good portion of it, behind him. Hillary doing stupid shit like addressing the Trayvon Martin foundation in a speech, will push many more R's towards Trump.
The current polling showing a dead heat may be misleading, of course that is a possibility, but the massive movement towards Trump isn't. That's a fact. The question is does it have any staying power.
to teach the dumbfucks to stop bringing fists to a gun fight and to STOP beating people up
what's next, a monument on the mall to Michael Brown?
MLK must be spinning in his grave
someone needs to look at the "content of Hillary's character"
now Black Fat Guy is gonna call me a racist again
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"Hillary doing stupid shit like addressing the Trayvon Martin foundation in a speech, will push many more R's towards Trump."
I have been following the betting odds for this entire election cycle and the bookies have been the leading indicator, not the polls. They have hardly been batting 100%, but by and large the bookies have gotten it right, and gotten it first, much more often than the polls have this time out.
Actually Trump is getting the nomination bump, while Hillary is being dragged down by Bernie's refusal to simply go away. I predict that when Bernie finally does call it a day, Hillary will get a chance to get her post nomination bump and take back some of the ground that Trump has made up on her. A nasty floor fight won't be good for her though, I am enjoying watching the Dems "eat their own" every bit as much as the lefties were salivating over a contested GOP convention.
...and look how that turned out. 😎
She loves the slop; she eats it up.
Also......these polls are still based on a 3 person race....with Bernie supporters basically abstaining or adding to her negative view...when Hills secures nomination.....the polls will come more into focus and become more accurate......but everchanging, lol, to the election day.