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Anti semitism on the left !
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If you haven't figured it out yet, you're way behind the times.  

  Until everyone is cloned as one and the same, or human emotions are  robotic controlled, there will  
 always be anti someone in vogue.

   Don't feel offended by the offensive unless you enjoy losing.  
   
     http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/08/opinion/an-anti-semitism-of-the-left.html?_r=0

    Trump 201

If you haven't figured it out yet, you're way behind the times.  

  Until everyone is cloned as one and the same, or human emotions are  robotic controlled, there will  
 always be anti someone in vogue.

   Don't feel offended by the offensive unless you enjoy losing.  
   
     http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/08/opinion/an-anti-semitism-of-the-left.html?_r=0

    Trump 201

And I'm not even "one of the tribe."

Posted By: DoctorGonzo

I'm the kind of guy who'll tell them to their face, Fuck off !!

  Since I'm not a Jew or their most faithful ally, a Christian, I often wonder  
    why so many Christians and especially Jews, feel shamed  by words I don't find offensive.  

  IMO too many adults  of all persuasions and  atheists with no back bone, find their feelings  hurt by simple words.  
 Perhaps my early years in boarding school taught me well,  words were the least of my worries.  
  I found the best defense against older children slandering me,  act indifferent to their  taunts.  
 

SERIOUSLY , do you believe referring to William Kristol as a "renegade Jew" for leading a ridiculous  effort to find a substitute third party candidate, to run against soon to be President Trump, is an example of anti Semitism ?  
 
 IMO, anyone finding offense with Breitbart's reference to Kristol  is  a perfect example of grown men  acting like young girls.  
Certainly no shortage of those in this day and age.  
 
I definitely don't see the words as derogatory , since Kristol is a Jew and running another candidate in the GOP race for the Presidency would most likely be  a self defeating renegade enterprise while giving the Presidency to war mongering  corruption.
 
   
From the outside looking in I see absolutely no anti Semitism in the words Renegade Jew.
  In my defense, as I stated I'm not easily offended by words.

  The only time in my adult life I've ever  punched someone  over something said to me,
 I mentioned to a loud mouth guy at work my Mom had died the night  before.  
   He called me a liar in front of the early morning gathering, at the wrong time for both of us.
   I punched him as hard as I could in his obnoxious mouth, in front of the Boss.  
  Needless to say, I lost that job.  
   Though I was a young adult at the time and I've matured since then, I'd do it again under the same circumstances.
   
   Did your History teachers lead you to believe Geronimo was a ruthless Pagan renegade, or someone fighting for his freedom and beliefs?  
 
  Recently I sold an old Classic car, not in prime condition but hard to find.  
 In my ad I stated, no hurry to sell,  price is firm, don't waste my time or yours with  
   a low ball offer.  
   
  Sure enough, a dumb ass showed up and offered eight thousand less than my asking price.  
  I replied NO way, price is fim, then he offered five thousand less than my asking price.
   I emphatically yelled at the jerk  "Get lost ass face, Go fuck yourself, I'm not selling to you at any price".
  He left in a silent whimper.

 If I had phrased my ad differently  , Price is firm, don't even try  to "Jew me down" or you'll be run off my property, would that be considered anti Semite by you or more to the point ?

... as for the "Jew you down"... I despise the term. It is a negative stereotype perpetuated by haters and is just as offensive as "getting Gypped" would be to a gypsy.
But I recognize that it has become ingrained into the vernacular of the English language as a smarmy reference to Jews superior skills in negotiating and so I grit my teeth and try to forgive that person their ignorance.

Even when it was my best friend of the time uttering the phrase while bragging about the great deal he got on his car.

My answer to your question, quad: it would tell me you have no interest in negotiating, and that you were raised ignorant with some lowbrow influences. But I would not take it as a display of Antisemitism in and of itself.

 
As for Kristol being a renegade Jew - quad... I have frequently referred to myself in this forum as a renegade Jew. Proudly.

It's a kerfuffle and a misdirect.

I did not believe for a second you directed the finger at me, the thought never entered  my mind.  
   
  In reality I am more astute than some believe, though I have been fooled before, but never conned by an offer that looked too good to be true.

 I have to admit, I thought only  Elmer Fudd type Jews would find offense with the don't "Jew me down " phrase.  
  I have no doubt you are not that type of guy.  
  To be fair and balanced with hopes a defensive reader won't find offense, I've seen many Caucasian fuddy duddy,  Elmer Fudd, type guys, actually many more than Elmer Jews.
   
  I'm not sure how the term "Jew me down" originated, likely from old books portraying Jews as the primary money lenders with high interest rates  and Jewish merchants in early trading days bargaining to buy trinkets at reduced prices to sell at inflated retail.  
 
    I know that's not true in todays World as a trait reserved for Jews only.
 Over  99% of car dealerships are not owned by Jews.
   
 I'm not sure if it was true of only Jews way back in the early days, or when the cliché first started.

 
 Some people believe Jews control the banks today, that's far from the truth IMO.  
 
I've heard from friends who travel to Mexico, if you don't negotiate there, you will pay  
  three times the price.  "Don't Mex me down"  doesn't have a ring to it.  
 
  A Gal friend of mine who lives in Thailand said anytime I  want to buy anything there, she can get me a much better deal since she's a Native and knows how to bargain with them.
   "Don't Thai me down" has an air of familiarity.  

   Every Guatemalan I've met has mentioned words to the effect, Mexico s nothing but Mexican bandits.  
   
  A guy I know buys rugs from lands surrounding Israel and brings them back to the States, he said if he doesn't negotiate like a mad man while acting  irritated,  he won't get the price down low enough to be able to make a profit.  
  I'm back to thinking about car dealers.  

  Many phrases some never give a second thought about, while others find offense.  
   I've heard a few  I would never repeat.  

I can't help but notice, the  less racism I see, the more the politically correct, word  police, beat their drums.
   
 In my youth a  term used often, "Don't Welch on our agreement/bet/promise.  
That's  now deemed offensive .  WTF!   I had no idea in my youth Welch was a country or a term for people who live in Welch.  LOL    
 Did we mispronounce or did someone twist our word into something else,  like many in the media do with Trump ?

The term "Low man on the Totem pole" is a phrase that's been used   for many generations.  
  I imagine you've heard that phrase before, most people use the term to designate the bottom choice or least valuable of the group.    
  The reality, The low man on the Totem pole is the most valuable from  Native Americans perspective.  
  Most  Totem poles made by Native Americans have the lowest man on the pole at eye level.  
    The level of respect.

   Some Native Americans and many lily white pansies with too much time on their hands, feel  
  the word Redskin is  a derogatory  term.  
  That was never the intent when Washington named their team.
  Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Washington fan.  

   I wonder if there are many Navy guys  who find "drunker than a sailor" offensive.
   All of the  drunk sailors I've met,  wouldn't  have a leg to stand on disputing that statement.  

     I almost forgot  the one I find most absurd and laughable.   "Indian giver".  
  Was George Washington an Indian?  
           
In my area we keep an eye out for traveling Gypsies to avoid getting gypped or ripped off.  
     I'm  calling  that one exactly as I've seen it happen to my neighbors, even though  Gypsies  have  never bothered me or attempted to sell  me a sub par asphalt driveway.  
 
    Perhaps the Goat heads on spikes at the end of my drive gives  thieves a reason to pause and  think twice.  

I've heard may different  phrases over the years that are not accurate depictions and many people find offensive.

   I'm not concerned when someone calls me something I know I'm not.
   
  After reading your reply, I'll be sure to never put "Don't even try to Jew me down" on an ad for something I am selling.  

   Unfortunately for  you and anyone else  finding offense , I don't expect the term to go away anytime soon.
   Some youth of today have  morphed "Jew me down"  into something I find very morbid and disrespectful, and you will likely find it much more disgusting than a few words  referring to bargaining, when you hear it.
  The first time I heard it I said WTF!  After it was explained to me I wish I hadn't asked.  
     Hopefully for yourself and them, you won't hear it in your presence.  
   
           

   

Posted By: DoctorGonzo
... as for the "Jew you down"... I despise the term. It is a negative stereotype perpetuated by haters and is just as offensive as "getting Gypped" would be to a gypsy.  
 But I recognize that it has become ingrained into the vernacular of the English language as a smarmy reference to Jews superior skills in negotiating and so I grit my teeth and try to forgive that person their ignorance.  
   
 Even when it was my best friend of the time uttering the phrase while bragging about the great deal he got on his car.  
   
 My answer to your question, quad: it would tell me you have no interest in negotiating, and that you were raised ignorant with some lowbrow influences. But I would not take it as a display of Antisemitism in and of itself.  
   
   
 As for Kristol being a renegade Jew - quad... I have frequently referred to myself in this forum as a renegade Jew. Proudly.  
   
 It's a kerfuffle and a misdirect.

...or a spoiler.  He's a renegade because he's a Republican who's not supporting Trump.  He's not a renegade because of his religion.

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since ALL lefties are anti-semites, he wants the cover of the VERY few righties that he can call anti-semite

it makes the radical left look a tad more "centrist", AND they get to call someone a hypocrite right before they go and fuck someone over

clever triangulation there cheese-dick!

B5 engaging in "projection"; also, thinking of my dick too much-------  :(

As to the rest , as dumb & uneducated as  it comes----- :)

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