So back to "El muro con Mexico"
Personally I think the very idea of a wall with Mexico is a waste of time and money. I still don't know why people try to "sneak" into this country in the first place when you can simply walk across the border with impunity at any one of dozens of border crossings we have with Mexico. It's a hell of a lot harder to get in and out of Canada than Mexico. and I suppose your reason for voting for Hillary is as good as any, from a lefty's perspective at least. She represents a third term for Obama, some of you view this as a good thing. For me, even the uncertainty of what Trump brings beats the hell out of a third term for Obama. You may recall my criticism of Ron Paul a few years ago. My point about him was the things he wanted to do that I was in favor of just weren't going to ever happen, but some of the loony tune ideas he had might just get past. I find myself with the opposite view where it comes to Trump. The wall is not going to happen, 12 million illegals are not going to get deported. OTOH, two trillion dollars currently held offshore by American corporations most likely WILL get repatriated under Trump. ObamaCare most likely will get overturned under Trump. Trump is a thousand times more likely to improve our trade situation under Trump, even if all he does is start winning the currency battle with them. There are many things I know Trump can do better than Hillary and the rest of it I will simply have to live with, there are no "perfect" candidates.
Watch out, righties, after Hillary is elected, she & the U.N will take your guns away-------- 
Directed by Chuck Norris's son, which shouldn't come as a surprise.
He went on and on about how Obama was not going to come after "my" guns.
Well I still have my guns, but it wasn't because Obama didn't try. At every opportunity Obama has tried to raise the issue of taking away the second amendment rights of law abiding American citizens. Do you really expect any less of this coming from Hillary?
Left wingers make movies all the time, yes this movie is undeniably made with a right wing slant, get over it.
Get over fucking what ? I find the film to be an unintentionally funny paranoid fantasy.
Lastly, Gag, you're a smart guy, so riddle me this: If HRC becomes POTUS, you really believe your guns will be taken away? That would be unprecedented. NRA is too powerful. Never gonna happen.
It's not high on the list on why I won't be voting for her, because as you say, it's unlikely she will get her way. Just like abortion rights and Gay Marriage aren't high on my list for much the same reason, but that doesn't mean it's not a factor.
I could ask the same of you, Do you REALLY believe that Trump will somehow manage to deport 12 million illegals if he were elected?
ut a majority of his stupid supporters feel otherwise.
GaG, 2 gun questions : 1. Do you think there should be background checks at gun shows ?
2. Do you favor banning assault weapons ?
Lastly, if you give a shit about this ( & I'm sure you don't ) I WANT you to keep your guns.
I could ask the same of you, Do you REALLY believe that Trump will somehow manage to deport 12 million illegals if he were elected?
First off, back to your original point. His "stupid" supporters are every bit as right as Hillary's stupid supporters. Trump will most definitely do more to do something about illegal immigration than Hillary even though he will fall well short of his stated goal of deporting "all of them" By the same token Hillary will most likely do more in the way of gun control than Trump although she too will fall well short of her goal of taking even "my" very legal guns from me.
Now back to guns. I feel the same way about "common sense" gun laws as I do about "common sense" abortion laws. They are designed to whittle away at the rights of law abiding citizens one small "common sense" step at a time. The anti abortionists are the same way, EVERYONE can agree that "partial birth" abortions, where a viable "baby" not a fetus is essentially murdered. So that's where they start, the same as EVERYONE can agree a private citizen doesn't have a constitutional right to own a surface to air missile. Unfortunately both sides on both issues are so entrenched that I can't in good conscience support any laws limiting abortion rights, no matter how "common sense" they are, nor can I support any laws infringing on my second amendment rights.
Which is fine by me.
& while I'll cop to "stupid" supporters on both sides, the fact that the Trump "kool-aid drinkers", believes that Mexico will cough up billions to erect a wall on its U.S. border is stupid lunacy beyond belief.
Not to mention all the foreign "contributors" to the Clinton foundation who are expecting a return on their investment.
For every claim about how stupid the Trump supporters are, I am sure I can find several to prove just how dumb the Clinton supporters are. We can play this little game all day if you'd like.
& I said there were dummies on both sides; you want me to have that statement notarized ?
That said, how do you feel about Trump's proposal to have Mexico to pay & build for a massive wall on its borders, & many of his supporters believing that will happen ?
Simply admitting they exist, but singling out only the Trump supporters for lunacy is hardly being even handed.
So before I answer your question about the wall, how about you address my point about Hillary being in the pocket not only of Wall St, but a lot of foreign interests as well? I did ask you first afterall.
In fact, my 1st choice was "Crazy" Uncle Joe. I'm supporting her, because unlike the 75 year socialist loon, she can can beat the insane, ignorant racist demagogue.
Now about that wall----------
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So back to "El muro con Mexico"
Personally I think the very idea of a wall with Mexico is a waste of time and money. I still don't know why people try to "sneak" into this country in the first place when you can simply walk across the border with impunity at any one of dozens of border crossings we have with Mexico. It's a hell of a lot harder to get in and out of Canada than Mexico.
and I suppose your reason for voting for Hillary is as good as any, from a lefty's perspective at least. She represents a third term for Obama, some of you view this as a good thing. For me, even the uncertainty of what Trump brings beats the hell out of a third term for Obama.
You may recall my criticism of Ron Paul a few years ago. My point about him was the things he wanted to do that I was in favor of just weren't going to ever happen, but some of the loony tune ideas he had might just get past. I find myself with the opposite view where it comes to Trump. The wall is not going to happen, 12 million illegals are not going to get deported. OTOH, two trillion dollars currently held offshore by American corporations most likely WILL get repatriated under Trump. ObamaCare most likely will get overturned under Trump. Trump is a thousand times more likely to improve our trade situation under Trump, even if all he does is start winning the currency battle with them. There are many things I know Trump can do better than Hillary and the rest of it I will simply have to live with, there are no "perfect" candidates.
OTOH, your voting for Trump "doesn't compute". In re to his economic policies, they seem to change daily & are derided by many economists. His talk of" renegotiating the debt" could be catastrophic. The dude is a loose cannon, economically a big unknown factor, & potentially GaG, possibly disastrous to you. But hey, you're the businessman, your call.
and economists are constantly at odds with each other, just like scientists. You can hire an "expert" to validate any whacky POV. I have been hired many times to do workups on certain projects and my first question has always been, Do you want me to "prove" this project is viable, that it is not viable, or do you want me to simply let the chips fall where they may without any preset agenda. I work with numbers all day long, it's quite easy to "prove" any preconceived notion you might have.
As for "renegotiating the debt" anything he could do in that regard couldn't possibly be worse than what Obama just did to us with the Iran deal and some of what he says absolutely makes sense. People also thought QE was going to lead to hyper inflation and the end of the world, but Bernanke proved everyone wrong. QE was a stroke of genius and without it we would be ten times worse off than we are.
But a stupid loon like Trump handling the nuke codes ? Not for me, pal.
We will have $8.00 per gallon gas a stock market crash and 20% unemployment . At least that was the warnings when he as running for reelection.
Just didn't happen. Kinda like his invasion of Texas so he could declare Marshall law.
BTW , can you refer me to the legislation he had introduced that called for the Federal collection of privately owned firearms ?
Or the executive order
bitch about it
he tried, but failed and turned his focus to fucking REAL blacks - not half black like him
if he weren't black (well, half), he'd be delivering mail