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And both your 2 senators and the majority of your representatives voted for it.

And you are not actually paying for the subsidies unless your ACA income is over $250,000 and with your offsetting stock losses I don't think we need to worry about that.

Btw FCX hit $14 yesterday. If you had followed me you would have made a lot of dough. I'm holding till about 20.
Posted By: St. Croix
when I'm FUCKING paying for the Obamacare users annual premium and yearly premium increases through a myriad of tax increases? It's a competition for how the government can extract more money from me.  
   
 95% of Obamacare users are getting subsidies of upwards of 100% of the premium amount. Who cares if it's 3%, 5%, or 20% annual increase, they're either not paying for it, or paying an increase on a fraction of the amount.  
   
 Only a liberal can use twisted logic to address the marketplace and competition.  
   
Posted By: marikod
requests for hooker discounts in determining the final price. Here is how it works in real life- if the insurer needs a 4% increase, he tells the state regulator he needs 8%. The state regulator gives him 3%.  
     
        It’s called “negotiation,” son.  
     
          And guess what happens in the marketplace when the insurer gets this 3%  rate incease? Another insurer offers the same coverage for the original price and gets the market share.  
     
         It’s called “competition,” son.    
     
          So in one sense you are inadvertently right – Obamacare is working as planned with respect to premium increases.    
 

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- Gross domestic product rose at a 0.5 percent annualized rate after a 1.4 percent fourth-quarter advance, Commerce Department data showed Thursday.  

- Obama will be the only U.S. president in history who did not deliver a single year of 3.0%+ economic growth.  
- Most ever American children living in poverty.  
- Record numbers on food stamps.  
- Lowest workforce participation rate in 30 years,  
- 70% of jobs he has created are part-time jobs.  
- Median wages are where they were 7 years ago..  
- Hours have been cut due to Obamacare regulations.
 
But, the "unemployment rate" is great according to the Big O.

- And Bill Clinton reportedly said yesterday ... 80% of people are living on the same income they had in 2008 and 50% have the same income they had in 2000 when I (Clinton) left office'!  

 
Trickle up poverty under Obama is working!

Economy in the tank, foreign policy a laughing stock and his key domestic legislation dying on the vine.

Worst president ever? Jimmy Carter is hoping so. LOL

GaGambler108 reads

You know that must be true because I heard the POTUS say exactly that when he was pushing for approval of this hybrid of both socialized AND private sector fucking of the American public.

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Carter conceded that title to obama years ago

saltyballs100 reads

......and a  Tax increase on the wealthy.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/28/trump-pushes-single-payer-healthcare-tax-increase-on-wealthy/

Posted By: JackDunphy
Economy in the tank, foreign policy a laughing stock and his key domestic legislation dying on the vine.  
   
 Worst president ever? Jimmy Carter is hoping so. LOL

GaGambler102 reads

but, Single Payer is MUCH better than the misfuck known as Obamacare that has all the bad parts of socialized medicine and all the corruption of the old system.  

As for raising taxes on the "rich" I can live with increased taxes on the truly rich, but Dems consider anyone making as little as a couple hundred grand a year "rich" I don't see why a small contractor who busts his ass to make $2-300,000 a year should be taxed at an effective rate of about 60% when you count Federal, state and payroll taxes, while a truly rich person can collect $10,000,000.00 a year for sitting on his ass and pay only 15%.

Pay down the debt?

Puh-lease. Are you still under this bizarre notion Washington DC will spend THAT money, or ANY money, wisely?

No, they need to get their house in order and make MUCH needed cuts and eliminate wasteful programs and act responsibly before ANY tax payer should have to fork over one more cent.

Every extra penny in tax increases only delays further coming to terms with our MASSIVE debt problem and increases the risk of the coming train wreck and collapse of our entire economic structure

requests for hooker discounts in determining the final price. Here is how it works in real life- if the insurer needs a 4% increase, he tells the state regulator he needs 8%. The state regulator gives him 3%.

      It’s called “negotiation,” son.

        And guess what happens in the marketplace when the insurer gets this 3%  rate incease? Another insurer offers the same coverage for the original price and gets the market share.

       It’s called “competition,” son.  

        So in one sense you are inadvertently right – Obamacare is working as planned with respect to premium increases

when I'm FUCKING paying for the Obamacare users annual premium and yearly premium increases through a myriad of tax increases? It's a competition for how the government can extract more money from me.

95% of Obamacare users are getting subsidies of upwards of 100% of the premium amount. Who cares if it's 3%, 5%, or 20% annual increase, they're either not paying for it, or paying an increase on a fraction of the amount.  

Only a liberal can use twisted logic to address the marketplace and competition.  

Posted By: marikod
requests for hooker discounts in determining the final price. Here is how it works in real life- if the insurer needs a 4% increase, he tells the state regulator he needs 8%. The state regulator gives him 3%.  
   
       It’s called “negotiation,” son.  
   
         And guess what happens in the marketplace when the insurer gets this 3%  rate incease? Another insurer offers the same coverage for the original price and gets the market share.  
   
        It’s called “competition,” son.  
   
         So in one sense you are inadvertently right – Obamacare is working as planned with respect to premium increases.  
 

And both your 2 senators and the majority of your representatives voted for it.

And you are not actually paying for the subsidies unless your ACA income is over $250,000 and with your offsetting stock losses I don't think we need to worry about that.

Btw FCX hit $14 yesterday. If you had followed me you would have made a lot of dough. I'm holding till about 20.

Posted By: St. Croix
when I'm FUCKING paying for the Obamacare users annual premium and yearly premium increases through a myriad of tax increases? It's a competition for how the government can extract more money from me.  
   
 95% of Obamacare users are getting subsidies of upwards of 100% of the premium amount. Who cares if it's 3%, 5%, or 20% annual increase, they're either not paying for it, or paying an increase on a fraction of the amount.  
   
 Only a liberal can use twisted logic to address the marketplace and competition.  
   
Posted By: marikod
requests for hooker discounts in determining the final price. Here is how it works in real life- if the insurer needs a 4% increase, he tells the state regulator he needs 8%. The state regulator gives him 3%.  
     
        It’s called “negotiation,” son.  
     
          And guess what happens in the marketplace when the insurer gets this 3%  rate incease? Another insurer offers the same coverage for the original price and gets the market share.  
     
         It’s called “competition,” son.    
     
          So in one sense you are inadvertently right – Obamacare is working as planned with respect to premium increases.    
 

I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER take investment advice from you. You are absolutely clueless.  

Second, I am paying for Obamacare. There are over 20 individual and corporate taxes to support this welfare program. And you are trying to tell me there is competition when the Insurance Companies and Government sit down to negotiate premiums, and arrive at a price to provide a MANDATED service to a segment of society that is basically getting there healthcare for free. I took some econ classes in school, but this shit never came up. And you went to where again?

This has nothing to do with Feinstein, Boxer and Congress. Government just created an artificial market funded by people who have capital gains versus capital losses (oh...that be you!!!).

Do you want me to repeat my 1st paragraph.

Posted By: marikod
And both your 2 senators and the majority of your representatives voted for it.  
   
 And you are not actually paying for the subsidies unless your ACA income is over $250,000 and with your offsetting stock losses I don't think we need to worry about that.  
   
 Btw FCX hit $14 yesterday. If you had followed me you would have made a lot of dough. I'm holding till about 20.  
   
Posted By: St. Croix
when I'm FUCKING paying for the Obamacare users annual premium and yearly premium increases through a myriad of tax increases? It's a competition for how the government can extract more money from me.  
     
  95% of Obamacare users are getting subsidies of upwards of 100% of the premium amount. Who cares if it's 3%, 5%, or 20% annual increase, they're either not paying for it, or paying an increase on a fraction of the amount.    
     
  Only a liberal can use twisted logic to address the marketplace and competition.    
     
Posted By: marikod
requests for hooker discounts in determining the final price. Here is how it works in real life- if the insurer needs a 4% increase, he tells the state regulator he needs 8%. The state regulator gives him 3%.    
       
         It’s called “negotiation,” son.    
       
           And guess what happens in the marketplace when the insurer gets this 3%  rate incease? Another insurer offers the same coverage for the original price and gets the market share.    
       
          It’s called “competition,” son.    
       
           So in one sense you are inadvertently right – Obamacare is working as planned with respect to premium increases.    
   

with the consumer protection standards set by federal  law.  Yet there seems to be plenty of competition among Ford, GM, and Honda.  So if the competition in the robust ACA marketplace is “artificial” in your view bc the ACA sets the floor – but never the ceiling - for health insurance policies-  then all markets are artificial.  The only difference is the ACA compels consumers to buy through the mandate – but that does not stifle competition, it promotes it by guarantying a broad buyer’s market. . You have this absolutely backwards.

        There are plenty of legitimate complaints about the ACA but the lack of competition between insurers is not one of them. Insurers who cannot compete are withdrawing from the market, or going belly up in the case of the co-ops. Go to Covered California and you will see all sorts of different prices for health insurance plans.

         You better quite being an angry old man about Obamacare. It is here to stay for your lifetime. Even if God forbid Trump is elected, he would not repeal Obamacare like he says because he has absolutely no idea as to what would replace it.  Cruz would try but he is so hated in Congress I don’t think he would ever pass a bill.

So get over it and be sure you pay your Obamacare premiums this month

A few years ago you were funny, now you're just obnoxious with your line of reasoning.  

Posted By: marikod
with the consumer protection standards set by federal  law.  Yet there seems to be plenty of competition among Ford, GM, and Honda.  So if the competition in the robust ACA marketplace is “artificial” in your view bc the ACA sets the floor – but never the ceiling - for health insurance policies-  then all markets are artificial.  The only difference is the ACA compels consumers to buy through the mandate – but that does not stifle competition, it promotes it by guarantying a broad buyer’s market. . You have this absolutely backwards.  
   
         There are plenty of legitimate complaints about the ACA but the lack of competition between insurers is not one of them. Insurers who cannot compete are withdrawing from the market, or going belly up in the case of the co-ops. Go to Covered California and you will see all sorts of different prices for health insurance plans.  
   
          You better quite being an angry old man about Obamacare. It is here to stay for your lifetime. Even if God forbid Trump is elected, he would not repeal Obamacare like he says because he has absolutely no idea as to what would replace it.  Cruz would try but he is so hated in Congress I don’t think he would ever pass a bill.  
   
 So get over it and be sure you pay your Obamacare premiums this month.  
 

Yes, a few years ago he was occasionally entertaining, now it's only when he completely goes into the tank, like with the Rick Perry prediction that he provides any entertainment value, I guess fake lawyers have a shelf life too.

BTW, has Mari ever been right about anything? I think he is on something like an 0 for 200 streak or thereabouts.

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