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Hi all, I'm new to the site and would love to experience more reviewed providers but they all seem to want references. I'm also a younger (30) African American male which makes a lot of providers skeptical, I'm very respectful, educated, and love the company of a beautiful woman without the hassles of a relationship. I also just signed up for P411 which should help a little later but hoping some lovely ladies would be interested in me visiting them for incall due to me being in a remote location in NOVA.

I'm totally newbie-friendly, but my screening process is a bit more involved for those who don't have references. If you don't have references, joining p411 is helpful, but most ladies will require more than a P411 handle.  

I'm visiting at the end of May, and offer multiple ways to verify. If I pique your interest, feel free to send me a message.

Hope you find what you're looking for!
-Erin

Welcome to the Mid-Atlantic!  I'm 54 and came to the area to go to college.  After graduating I stayed.  My last winter in The Chi, '83, during the Xmas break it was 40 below, 80 below wind-chill.  That was all the hint I needed to not come back after I graduated in Spring '84.  I was born and raised on the South Side and graduated from Corliss.  OK, enough of the personal history.

Hobbying; Sooooo, your Membership with TER is all you need IMHO.  I've been a member since '01.  Although I'm not a member of P411, it is a good addition to your portfolio.  I've met several ladies who were members of P411 but who frequented TER.  

I prefer TER because it has a national, and even international, scope.  Also TER provides more of a one-stop shopping location.  I'm planning some travel to a few Asian countries and the Asia discussion board has been an invaluable source of info.  Other sites like TER are more regional, i.e. you have sites that primarily feature ladies on the west coast and sites that feature ladies primarily in the Rockies.  Hence, if you travel often like I do then it would be beneficial to become familiar with those sites.  TER does not allow posting/discussion of its competition, for obvious reasons, so I wont attempt to name them here.  You can PM me for that info.  But again, IMHO TER is the preferred information site for the hobby.  You would be hard pressed to find other sites that are much different or of better quality than BP.  All the others have volumes of Bait & Switch, fake PICs, Scammers, etc.  Hence, TER is a wonderful clearing house of information.

Soul Power: So I'm AA also, I don't know if the "No Black Men" rule is more prevalent in the Mid-Atlantic than anywhere else but during my travels I've found it to be so.  I don't see as many "No Black Men" disclaimers as I do in this (DMV) area.  But with that said, don't let it bother you for two reasons: FIRST, the sensitive/up-close-and-personal nature of this hobby almost dictates ladies make their preferences known to ensure the client has a good time and/or get what they paid for.  I ENCOURAGE the ladies to make it plain.  Hell, if I were a CMT I could not have obese clients, I just couldn't do it.  When I first broke into the game I was kinda put-off by those disclaimers also.  But as in the real world...I don't want to be with and/or spend my money with anyone who does not want to be with me.  SECOND, it's been my experience that for every 1 ad that you see that says "No Black Men" you'll find 5 who love and/or are into black men.  Or, the point of your race is not even an issues or question.  So don't sweat the small stuff.  You'll see threads pot up about every 6 months or so with Newbies getting their feelings hurt when they read those ad disclaimers.  And I get it.  The initial read of those sentiments can kinda sting at first.  But after a session or two with ladies who enjoy and/or even prefer Black Men as clients will make all that go away.  Then after you become more seasoned in this world you will come to ignore it.

With that said, you are entering the hobby at a time when the whole "No AA" is evolving.  Now ladies are starting to note no AA under say 40.  I have seen one lady who is a star around here and who we enjoy each others company immensely that post that in her Ads (No AA under 40).  So I don't know what these young whipper snappers are doing but it's obviously not endearing them to the ladies.  I'm sure it's that whole modern day "Rap" mentality where these young men are encouraged to NOT be gentlemen.  I hate it and don't condone it.  I hope dudes who think that shyt is cool are relegated to a life of endless masturbation.  Oh how I long for the days of Eric B. Rakim, EPMD, Dougie Fresh.  But I digress.

Hence, your 30 something age and nationality may impact you some at this time.  You appear to be a fine young man and gentlemen so once you get established and get a presence on the TER Whitelist, P411 reviews, and a reference history it's all Marvin Gay and Lingerie after that.

Finally, IMHO, do not write off or ignore BP.  Once you learn how the game works and how to do your homework with the use of TER, BP can become a mini Treasure Trove of opportunities.

Good Luck Grasshopper and if you ever need any assistance let me know.  If you're interested, I have a UTR connect that I use that can serve your needs well given your "Newness" to the game.  PM me.

Thanks for the info, and good to meet you. I myself haven't lived in Chicago since 2001 and I agree with you 100% about not living there after I spent the last 10 years in Hawaii and SoCal lol. I went to Julian for a short spell before doing what I'm currently doing now. I definitely understand the preference issue might be due to my peers which is quite a let down for me as I had my eye on a provider who just recently stopped seeing AA's due to a bad experience. No big deal to me as I'm sure the ladies I do meet will enjoy the experience as much as I do.....or at least I hope so as I'm a firm believer in mutual pleasing. I will still keep BP in my tool bag as I just found a gem there recently, just looking for a change and hoping to enhance my taste a little bit. Again, much appreciated and PM also sent. take care

Bet ya more white people listen to rap, haha.  

Some of the same ones that say no AA under whateva age be at NBA All-Star weekend trying to land an athelete and 98% of ballers are under 40.

I know the game. Not one of them would pass up Drake and he's 28...They would see him every time.  

 

Posted By: Tall6969
Welcome to the Mid-Atlantic!  I'm 54 and came to the area to go to college.  After graduating I stayed.  My last winter in The Chi, '83, during the Xmas break it was 40 below, 80 below wind-chill.  That was all the hint I needed to not come back after I graduated in Spring '84.  I was born and raised on the South Side and graduated from Corliss.  OK, enough of the personal history.  
   
 Hobbying; Sooooo, your Membership with TER is all you need IMHO.  I've been a member since '01.  Although I'm not a member of P411, it is a good addition to your portfolio.  I've met several ladies who were members of P411 but who frequented TER.    
   
 I prefer TER because it has a national, and even international, scope.  Also TER provides more of a one-stop shopping location.  I'm planning some travel to a few Asian countries and the Asia discussion board has been an invaluable source of info.  Other sites like TER are more regional, i.e. you have sites that primarily feature ladies on the west coast and sites that feature ladies primarily in the Rockies.  Hence, if you travel often like I do then it would be beneficial to become familiar with those sites.  TER does not allow posting/discussion of its competition, for obvious reasons, so I wont attempt to name them here.  You can PM me for that info.  But again, IMHO TER is the preferred information site for the hobby.  You would be hard pressed to find other sites that are much different or of better quality than BP.  All the others have volumes of Bait & Switch, fake PICs, Scammers, etc.  Hence, TER is a wonderful clearing house of information.  
   
 Soul Power: So I'm AA also, I don't know if the "No Black Men" rule is more prevalent in the Mid-Atlantic than anywhere else but during my travels I've found it to be so.  I don't see as many "No Black Men" disclaimers as I do in this (DMV) area.  But with that said, don't let it bother you for two reasons: FIRST, the sensitive/up-close-and-personal nature of this hobby almost dictates ladies make their preferences known to ensure the client has a good time and/or get what they paid for.  I ENCOURAGE the ladies to make it plain.  Hell, if I were a CMT I could not have obese clients, I just couldn't do it.  When I first broke into the game I was kinda put-off by those disclaimers also.  But as in the real world...I don't want to be with and/or spend my money with anyone who does not want to be with me.  SECOND, it's been my experience that for every 1 ad that you see that says "No Black Men" you'll find 5 who love and/or are into black men.  Or, the point of your race is not even an issues or question.  So don't sweat the small stuff.  You'll see threads pot up about every 6 months or so with Newbies getting their feelings hurt when they read those ad disclaimers.  And I get it.  The initial read of those sentiments can kinda sting at first.  But after a session or two with ladies who enjoy and/or even prefer Black Men as clients will make all that go away.  Then after you become more seasoned in this world you will come to ignore it.  
   
 With that said, you are entering the hobby at a time when the whole "No AA" is evolving.  Now ladies are starting to note no AA under say 40.  I have seen one lady who is a star around here and who we enjoy each others company immensely that post that in her Ads (No AA under 40).  So I don't know what these young whipper snappers are doing but it's obviously not endearing them to the ladies.  I'm sure it's that whole modern day "Rap" mentality where these young men are encouraged to NOT be gentlemen.  I hate it and don't condone it.  I hope dudes who think that shyt is cool are relegated to a life of endless masturbation.  Oh how I long for the days of Eric B. Rakim, EPMD, Dougie Fresh.  But I digress.  
   
 Hence, your 30 something age and nationality may impact you some at this time.  You appear to be a fine young man and gentlemen so once you get established and get a presence on the TER Whitelist, P411 reviews, and a reference history it's all Marvin Gay and Lingerie after that.  
   
 Finally, IMHO, do not write off or ignore BP.  Once you learn how the game works and how to do your homework with the use of TER, BP can become a mini Treasure Trove of opportunities.  
   
 Good Luck Grasshopper and if you ever need any assistance let me know.  If you're interested, I have a UTR connect that I use that can serve your needs well given your "Newness" to the game.  PM me.

The last report I read, 70% of all Rap is purchased by Whites.  My point is not who buys or listens to Rap.  My point is the message some songs send.  And, how those messages can become part of some peoples personality.  Now of course, these types are in the minority!  And most ladies will never see these types.

In addition, it's interesting that after the Craigslist killer of prostitutes was caught and was a White man, I did not see any disclaimers of "I Don't See White Men."  But I think that is covered in Psych class 201.  In the end, we are all products of our experiences so I don't lose any sleep over what preferences people have.  I have my own so you keep yours.

And finally, the very dudes who make the ridiculously disrespecting Rap lyrics, I'm positive, as you suggest, that most providers would not hesitate to enter that contract.  And if the "Rapper" is popular then that's a built in screening check.  If he does something stupid/disrespectful all the lady needs to do is file a police report and it's national news.

Signing up to P411 and having 3 relatively recent reviews written is a good START. There a reason why you can't use those 3 for references (edit: looking at their profiles i'd probably only take 1 of the 3 so a little extra would be needed from you)?  I don't mind the 30 y/o part or the black part lol .... "very respectful, educated, and love the company of a beautiful woman" that matters to me more.  


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Having a TER account where you have actively & thoroughly reviewed other ladies allows us to see what youre interested in. In my experience, sending a screening email to a girl from p411 makes me feel a lot safer because it logs email & phone number, even though IIRC legalities allow le use of private accounts during undercover. (This is context heavy but Im not sure how best to rephrase for clarity)

 
Most importantly, be respectful.
I heavily endorse that you contact Sasha & Lust and let them know youd like to use them as references; Alert them to your email & number, and no problems should be had.
Etiquette pages on our websites are an invaluable resource on what our do's & dont's might be.

Glad to hear you got those braces off. Every lady loves receiving a good smile ;) MsMocha would be a great starting point. She is very active online, educated, considerate, and I can only assume low volume

Hey guy, welcome to the board and too a new way of thinking
And interacting with the opposite sex on your terms.

I'm another AA early 40s divorced. It's good to see the  
"Looking out" aspect for you here. Maybe his will let
Some providers see that brothers Can come into this world
And not  fit the stereotype. Lol I know it may be dumb but
We the few represent the whole no matter where we go. It's just
Bad that we are not the ones that the general public recognizes.

 
As far as the hobby,  Yeah being 30 might get a wall put up but
If you are what you say you are, I'm sure word of mouth may get  
You a pass.  
Enjoy the ladies man. Don't get caught in the fantasy too much. Remember
And this may not apply to you in any way, cause you may have a handle on the game.  
It's not real outside of the time you are there. Speaking as a man. You know
We can become suckers for that pretty face, bomb sex, and girly voice.  
If you read thru some of the stories here you will understand why I said this. Lol
Hell if you go to the bar and see a guy sitting there by him self drinking you
Will understand.

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