And paying for sex does not = loser.

I've paid for a lady to join my partner and I in the past.  And I'm still feeling pretty great about that decision.

You clearly know your audience....

I thought you paid them to leave afterwards!

Stacey Keach on Titus.. "You know why they make you pay in a Divorce?"   "Cause it's worth it!"

You're both right and wrong...

Someone is definitely "looser" after our meeting.  However, she's not the one paying.

Please don't include all of us in your self loathing (which I sincerely hope is a temporary phase).  I really don't think any of us appreciate being called "animals".

Sex, intimacy, passion, and having a close personal connection to another human being - all of these are normal, healthy desires.  We hobby folks just take a more pragmatic approach to hooking up to make that happen.  Quickly and efficiently.  With no strings attached.  Current legal views notwithstanding there is nothing wrong with that.

And indulging in our necessary human nature certainly doesn't make us animals.  Beauty, passion, laughing, eating, drinking, and loving (or the hobby equivalent of it) makes life worth living.  We all need something to be passionate about and to look forward to.  Or we wither and die.

Please take a vacation to Disneyworld, or go on a cruise, or take an art class - find something fun and/or constructive and healthy to do for a while.  You're taking this stuff way too seriously.

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get a dog.  Providers offer a much more economical outlet for lustful passions than marriage; with a provider you know your cost in advance; with a wife, you have no advance idea of cost, and the actual cost could be economically ruinous.  Girlfriends are less expensive than wives, but still way more expensive than providers. So, I must take exception with your statement and declare that hobbiests are wise businessmen.

A trick or man that puts himself in a subservient/submissive position under women in hopes of winning them over, without the female bringing anything to the table.  

Don't take it out on the rest of the guys here because you're a fucking SIMP who fell in love with a working gal who played your SIMP ass.  

Take this shit for what it's worth wash your ass, arrive to your appointments on time, pay the agreed upon fee, enjoy the hr and take your fucking ass home without expecting anything more!

You need to examine your point of view . . . and consider evolving.

Once upon a time I thought losers pay for sex . . . back when I was a teenager.

Another way to think of a loser is someone without a job, or reliable transportation, or health care, or a large paid for house in a good neighborhood, or a well funded retirement, or a college education, or a small business, or . . . whatever.  There are lots of different types of losers.  In point of fact, the statistics show that the guys that have the MOST sex (GaGambler excluded for being an outlier) are the guys that lack all of the above material comforts in life . . . something about walking to and from the trailer park gets these guys laid.

From your perspective, I can see why you think that way . . . but, you need to change the way you think of this, change your expectations, and change your target.  This is a hobby site, not a dating site.  Now you certainly could be looking for sex, many are, but you should be looking for sex on YOUR terms, which is a very different dynamic.  This is not a hook up mentality, it is a buyer's mentality.  Personally, I look for types of sex I could not get at home, different types of women (race, background, country, etc.), and different experiences (kink, threesomes, foursomes).  And as a footnote, losers don't have foursomes period.  Losers also don't travel to many countries, being sure to sample the local ladies . . . but HOBBYISTS do!  So stop being a chump and become a hobbyist; a hobbyist is not in it for love, or connection, but for sex (sex the way you like it, where you like it and when you want it) and experiences.

Once you change your POV to hobbyist, you will stop "looking for love in all the wrong places", and automatically change your expectations.  For that last part, YOU MUST STOP picking your women the way you pick them, whatever it is that you are doing, stop doing that.  I read that last bit of your previous post, and you should never be with a girl that has a doucebag attached during a session.  I'm sure plenty of the ladies I've seen have a leech at home, BUT they would NEVER bring their fucktard to work, or allow him to interfere with their business.  ALL of my ladies are professionals, and act accordingly.  You need to stop seeing backpage girls that work from home and let a dude come and go as he pleases during a session. Once you weedout those hoes, you will have a much better time.  A HOBBYIST doesn't get interrupted by a boyfriend, because he's done his homework and is seeing a reputable lady, not a street walker.  And if a HOBBYIST is seeing a street walker, she at HIS place, not her crack-den.  So, start using more judgement and discretion about the women you are choosing.

Once your done these simple things, all of it will change; your experiences will be better and your point of view will evolve, because your will no longer be on the outside looking in, you will be a HOBBYIST looking out from the inside

Dude, learn to fucking spell. Im lost within your inability to cough up some basics. I wonder how the fuck some of you trolls  graduated dial up.  

There are so many variations on desire/horniness. Some men want an affair, so providers can accommodate. Some providers can't/won't... no kissing, no intimacy, one hour and out. Some men prefer just that. Some want hard core porn sex. Some want to be held, to be seen and to be heard. Keep searching till you find a good match. There is a lid for every pot on TER.