question for the providers, should a provider even be in the buisness if they have a preference or who thet see, some providers i see post no blk men or no AAM, i mean whats up with that.
This question has been asked a million times.....every girl is different.....to me, color does not matter.....it is what it is.....sorry I can't give you any more insight....
I would like to welcome you to the Atlanta boards. This community will help you either way. However, I will return to the subject at hand. This topic had been discussed several times and to sum up, it's a personal preference.
There are several factors that been mentioned no blk man or AA. For one reason listed below:
1. Marketing ploy 2. Personal Bad experience 3. Boyfriend /pimp recommend 4. Spouse recommend 5. Media misrepresentation 6. upbringing 7. Many more factors
However, instead of wondering why the provider don't accept a personal race, look for providers that would definitely accept you. A person needs to develop a mindset that it's their lost and another provider gain. There are several providers who would accept you not by the color of your skin but by the character you projected to them. Now, the provider will require screening, but most of the providers will not use skin color as a requirement. Hope you be successful in this hobby journey because you are not in it alone.
The problem begins with people being brainwashed into believing certain stereotypes. So are all white men serial killers? No! Just like not all black men are pimps etc. If we want to be honest with ourselves. It's about accepting what society tells us about racist sterotypes and then we all make a choice whether to buy into that garbage or not!
Posted By: bigjoe2002
Hey man,
I would like to welcome you to the Atlanta boards. This community will help you either way. However, I will return to the subject at hand. This topic had been discussed several times and to sum up, it's a personal preference.
There are several factors that been mentioned no blk man or AA. For one reason listed below:
1. Marketing ploy 2. Personal Bad experience 3. Boyfriend /pimp recommend 4. Spouse recommend 5. Media misrepresentation 6. upbringing 7. Many more factors
However, instead of wondering why the provider don't accept a personal race, look for providers that would definitely accept you. A person needs to develop a mindset that it's their lost and another provider gain. There are several providers who would accept you not by the color of your skin but by the character you projected to them. Now, the provider will require screening, but most of the providers will not use skin color as a requirement. Hope you be successful in this hobby journey because you are not in it alone.
How did you came away with myself brainwashed. Those reasons that are listed are answers that had been research over and over again. I mean not everyone is going to accept you. Ok, now we established that motive, but now what are you going to do Protest against the provider and burn their homes and stuff down? No and again No I am not in the group. Stop crying over the spill milk about oh the provider isn't going to see me because of this race
Now is the time to leave the BP or Craigslist alone and research here with the providers who will see you. If you want to go deeper, do you know from those sites that there are some providers who posted that they don't see white or other types of man? You know what they are doing? They are moving to the next person. Come on man, you got to be real and understand that society isn't peachy and cream. Work within the system and asked around. The provider who posted this, that is their system and let them run it because the provider who accept you for you have a better system for them. Now that is my two cents either cry about it or get off the pot and be a man.
My comment was not directly about you but the comments you posted. Why some providers won't see black men. They are brain washed into believing the stereotypes you quoted in your comments. The real reason a person is racists is the want to feel better about themselves. So they act superior, when they have nothing else to go on inside!
Posted By: bigjoe2002
How did you came away with myself brainwashed. Those reasons that are listed are answers that had been research over and over again. I mean not everyone is going to accept you. Ok, now we established that motive, but now what are you going to do Protest against the provider and burn their homes and stuff down? No and again No I am not in the group. Stop crying over the spill milk about oh the provider isn't going to see me because of this race
Now is the time to leave the BP or Craigslist alone and research here with the providers who will see you. If you want to go deeper, do you know from those sites that there are some providers who posted that they don't see white or other types of man? You know what they are doing? They are moving to the next person. Come on man, you got to be real and understand that society isn't peachy and cream. Work within the system and asked around. The provider who posted this, that is their system and let them run it because the provider who accept you for you have a better system for them. Now that is my two cents either cry about it or get off the pot and be a man.
It's a personal preference, yes, but one that is based quite directly on bad experiences and/or racist tropes/stereotypes. All Black/AA men are not the same. And treating a race/group of people as a monolith is both poor logic and wildly offensive. Alas, we're all allowed to do what makes us "comfortable", so unfortunately, you and anyone else who might be excluded from a "picky" provider's list of potential gentleman callers all must deal accordingly. Rest assured, though, that there are plenty of providers that are open to seeing any gentleman who is safe, clean, and able to respect her boundaries and other requirements! [Please, make sure that you do to be a qualifying client!] I think the best bet, from this side of the door, is to determine what it is you'll allow (based on the previously mentioned categories), and work from there--but that's just how I prefer to operate. People can surprise you, and there's nothing like being open-minded and having a great experience with someone you might not have hand-picked yourself!
If it's any consolation, that particular reservation does happen to go both ways...
Sure some are in it for whatever reason. Then they should just do it for fun and not money right? if you are a professional you are a professional. There are plenty of people I work with and for that I dont care for personally.
Now that is an apples to oranges comparison I will admit;however, the reality is the providers I have spoken with admit there are some guys they dont fine attractive who are consistent customers. Some are boring and some are fun. If your position is fun being more important than business then just get with every fun hot person for free!!
You will have many more opportunities for fun then!! Fun and "preference" are pretenses. If someone is shelling out the money, them being attractive and /or fun is a bonus not a requirement. If it was a requirement then why isnt it in the ADs "only men with six packs, perfect teeth, who look like Brad Pitt with personality of Jay Leno"?
I am saying whether it's part-time or full time is irrelevant but I certainly dont believe providers are just posting ads and seeing client just for fun with no expectations of compensation. I think a provider making that argument is being totally insincere.
...is about the most brain dead reply one can give to the OP's concerns. Of COURSE it's a preference. What the fuck else could it possibly be? That doesn't make it acceptable. There are "providers" out there that *prefer* not to suck dick...or kiss...or have sex in multiple positions...or fuck men over 25. And you know something? That makes them shitty providers; in these cases, no one minds labeling them as such. No different here. If you exclude potential clients because they're black, then you suck as a provider and critics (especially those at the receiving end of that exclusion) have solid standing to discuss your shitiness on an ESCORT REVIEW SITE. But nah....somethig about this particular "preference" has everyone tripping over themselves to defend it. Wonder why the fuck that is...
The good news for the OP is screening-by-race is practiced mainly by peseant-class, Backpage hookers. Upgrade a bit, and you won't find it so common, if at all. It's never been a problem for me.
Like it or not, a lady has the right to see who she wants, when she wants, and in any color she wants. The one thing I've never seen on this board in all the years I've been a member is a lady of color complaining about not having enough white clients. Sorry, but if you don't like a lady's choices, tough shit and quit pissing and moaning about it. Call somebody else!
I'm the guy that occasionally drops in to parse the illogical bullshit people spout on here. Always irks the same type of halfwit, which is very surprising.
A word of advice, never talk bad about a provider especially one established such as khori. Your chances might just went down meeting some established providers. Word to wisdom. Hope you have success in your hobby journey.
I, for one, am glad they out themselves. It allows me to focu$ on those that appreciate my companionship and investment. Not only do I agree that those that discriminate are shitty providers, but have you noticed that most of their reviews are pretty crappy or a "YMMV" outcome. Who wants to be around YMMV people? Nobody, that's who!
So I'll say it again...Thank you to all the raci...I mean preference conscious providers. You make it easier to make good smarter choices.
And to all those chumps quoting a CDC study of AIDS as your reasoning for stupid behavior...GFY....or better yet go see some of these chics. You belong together. That sample size is literally the people they bus from the crack house to their offices.
So what. Move on it is not like you don't have a lot of choices. Who are you to judge and tell anyone who to see. I am pretty sure you have criteria you use. This is so old and lame.
So what. Move on it is not like you don't have a lot of choices. Who are you to judge and tell anyone who to see. I am pretty sure you have criteria you use. This is so old and lame.
These ladies offer us a great service-but it is her choice. I am sure someone doesn't want to see an asshole like me from the Lake-so what- do a search by god.. But I can give you a list 25 names long who would have no issues. The dude should do a search and contact some others. The idea he can't find a very well reviewed Lady is total Bullshit. He just wanted to cause an issue for no reason.
You're in the wrong city to have an NBA (no blacks allowed) status lol
There are levels of class to every group of people. And as other people said -- it's probably from some bad experiences with the most unsavory variety of that group (thuggy, young, pimp, etc). Lumping everyone together is always bad..... There are so many normal to upscale black guys in this city that wouldn't mind having some wholesome no strings attached fun with a lady of their choice (and that do).
You're in the wrong city to have an NBA (no blacks allowed) status lol
There are levels of class to every group of people. And as other people said -- it's probably from some bad experiences with the most unsavory variety of that group (thuggy, young, pimp, etc). Lumping everyone together is always bad..... There are so many normal to upscale black guys in this city that wouldn't mind having some wholesome no strings attached fun with a lady of their choice (and that do).
She can have what ever criteria she wants. Maybe she will not have as much business. But who are you guys to tell her what to do with her body.So someone made a decision you disagree with. The hole idea of TER and the review system is for us all to make a decision on preference.
So no one is forcing anything on anybody! It's just a way for her to cover up their racists attitudes. Just stop with the choice bullshit.
Posted By: players2
She can have what ever criteria she wants. Maybe she will not have as much business. But who are you guys to tell her what to do with her body.So someone made a decision you disagree with. The hole idea of TER and the review system is for us all to make a decision on preference.
It is most definitely a "choice" That is undeniable, it's also a racist choice IMHO, but it's still a choice, and a choice that is hers and hers alone.
I am not going to try and guilt someone into fucking someone that they don't want to fuck, OTOH, I am not going to sugarcoat and claim that it's not racist. Of course it's racist, but it's her right to be racist if she so chooses. I will agree that we should call it what it is.
Yea...okay. This topic has been beat to death, resurrected and beat again. Most of the men on here will side with the provider with the NBA (no blacks allowed) policy because it doesn't negatively affect them and as a provider/woman I will side with her as well since it's her body and she can do what she pleases with it.
But most of the providers/clients with a NBA policy are basing that off of racial stereotypes and skin color only not because of the bullshit "preference," excuse. There are plenty of stereotypes about Caucasian men, Indian men, Asian men, yet they only have a No Black Men policy? Yea...preference...ok.
Do I think it's right? Of course not. The providers with a "NBA," policy seem to be in the minority around here so I wouldn't worry too much about that.
And there is a difference between having a personal preference about age and race....your age will change every year but your race won't. So I'm not sure how comparing something that is always a changing factor to something that won't every change naturally. But I do understand where you guys are coming from.
.. I can't possibly fathom why anyone would turn you down!!? Women always have the right to choose who they let enter their world, biz or not. Cry about it all you want, but your 1 review doesn't help your argument.
Gee, I wonder! I can think of one reason I would not see the OP based off his review. BBFS. That is an absolute NO even if I only do CFS. That's me and I am very sure a lot of ladies say no for the same exact reason I do.
I don't understand why guys leave glowing reviews and then turn around and give a 6. I know it is his to give however he wants, but that is sort of a slap in the face. (Not standing up for her, but speaking in general. He's the only legit reviewer that gave her higher than a 2 or 3).
Posted By: TaylorLeighxxx
.. I can't possibly fathom why anyone would turn you down!!? Women always have the right to choose who they let enter their world, biz or not. Cry about it all you want, but your 1 review doesn't help your argument.
The liberal mindset is "Everyone must see it my way" Let's take it on. If a libertarian or conservative doesn't believe in guns, they don't buy them. If liberals don't believe in guns, they want them outlawed.
So many in this hobby pride themselves on being liberal, yet get very narrow minded against those who dare not agree with them.
There remain on many an independent business door today a sign, legal and ethical that says "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." In fact, The Tilted Kilt is taking a ton of shit PRECISELY because they DID ALLOW Biker "Club members" to congregate in the location...shootout ensued and the press whores can't wait to call them out for not being more selective.
It's a personal business and a personal choice. They limit their available market by the demographic they choose not to serve and the potential fallout of nimby liberals who will feign "Offense" at the temerity of the provider to follow her own belief based on events they have experienced in their life.
So, in short, I guess what I am saying is "LET IT THE FUCK GO" You don't like the ad, don't call the advertiser. Turn the page. Read the next review. Exercise your freedom of choice while they exercise theirs.
Personally I am going to get into business and I am going to refuse to see any woman who refuses to see any golfer who has a 11 handicap or higher while playing in long pants and using a 1 iron. While I am at it, any provider who knowingly sees a Washington Redskin fan is also off my list. Not because of the terribly offensive name "redskin" but because the Washington franchise SUCKS....Don't get me started on the NY Giants.
question for the providers, should a provider even be in the business if they have a preference or who thet see, some providers i see post no blk men or no AAM, i mean whats up with that.
In My Sincere Observation -- If we want to get real and not continue to carry on a subject just to create " racism "out of it it , it seems reasonable to not compare selling a meal in a restaurant per the customers skin color for example , to not meeting a person for a personal experience per their skin color ..There IS an OVERT difference , its physical to begin with - this isn't about the Equal Opportunities For Minorities Agency its about Dating a Provider and I for one have long ago had more than enough of the 'entitlement' card being played at every opportunity possible . Im not going with it , accepting it , or buying it -- bottom line to me it that a Provider can choose her clients based on anything she wants - its her body , safety ,and preference no one else's ...... Deal with it and move on like an Adul
with the racial politics bullshit, or take it to the P&R board. This is really simple gender politics:
No man is entitled to a damn thing, and no woman has to fuck anyone she does not choose to - whether for free or for pay. It's been that way forever, and any man who has ever been turned down by a woman fucking knows it. She gets to choose any way she wants, and she doesn't owe you an explanation for her choice. White chicks do it, ebony babes do it... and no man ever really understands how they make their choices.
You may feel like your green somehow entitles you to something - and you are WRONG. You cannot buy people in this country anymore. Nope, not even hookers.
Have some fucking self-respect and see a gal who WANTS to see you, and who makes you feel good. Post about that!!
So yes move on to another provider that is more open minded and less racist. This will solve everything for the person to move on and nothing at the same time. When we accept people stupid attitudes and not call out the person. Then they will never learn from their personal stupidity.
Also when people make this about choice it's a cover up for the real issue. We are all screened for everybody safety. I will say it again hiding behind their own racial prejudice is the real issue. The people that use choice need to stop.
Posted By: MasterZen
with the racial politics bullshit, or take it to the P&R board. This is really simple gender politics:
No man is entitled to a damn thing, and no woman has to fuck anyone she does not choose to - whether for free or for pay. It's been that way forever, and any man who has ever been turned down by a woman fucking knows it. She gets to choose any way she wants, and she doesn't owe you an explanation for her choice. White chicks do it, ebony babes do it... and no man ever really understands how they make their choices.
You may feel like your green somehow entitles you to something - and you are WRONG. You cannot buy people in this country anymore. Nope, not even hookers.
Have some fucking self-respect and see a gal who WANTS to see you, and who makes you feel good. Post about that!!
based on their personal preferences. The providers get called out on it because when someone is excluded, it is more visible, whether it is after screening or upfront in an ad. The client's exclusions aren't as visible (unless they're in an ISO post), but they still happen with every single choice they make to see one particular provider instead of another. It is always personal preferences that govern who we choose to get naked with, on both sides of the transaction.
to the OP, Do you like BBW, spinners, greek, no greek, cim, cbj, blonde, brunette, short, tall, short hair, long hair, big boobs, small boobs?? What is your PREFERENCE? THAT is what is up with that, just a personal preference period. Why do so many shout racism over a PERSONAL PREFERENCE is beyond me. If someone doesn't want to see you, don't waste your time or energy. Just move on because there are MANY who would love your company. There is someone for everyone especially here in Atlanta. Damn, maybe I should get mad as hell because EVERYONE doesn't want to fuck me. I'm not every man's cup of tea. Why should it be different for the guys? To each their own. It really is just a personal preference. Hugs and kisses TL
Try to understand what a preference is.... I explained it fairly well further up in this thread and you will understand that what you just said isnt even remotely accurate.
...no fawks are given. After all it's their preference. Hell even if they are on the low racist as hell still doesn't bother me because there are plenty more who appreciate all that I am.
and men who speak educated. I hate slang. I am all for a woman's right to chose who they see and why would you want to see someone who doesn't want to see you? I tell plenty of guys no based off of how they communicate with me prior to setting up a meeting. That goes for any race. Why would a white guy demand to see me after I surely don't want to based off of how ungentlemanly he acts? If I was forced to see him, he will not be having a good time at all. Goes for anyone.
I don't care about race and I noticed that if an AA or AAM (etc) are able to see you, they tend to appreciate it more because they have such a hard time finding gals who will see them. I don't see many AAs because not too many are gentlemen and respectful (from the ones who call me in my area, but I know plenty more are out there... they do exist lol).
Whatever a gal's reasoning is on how she decides who she sees (good or bad reason)... let her be. It's your money, don't waste it on someone that is going to give you sub par performance.
I don't see fire hydrant guys either. So what? Go see someone who will and will enjoy you.
I don't whine and try to make guys see me if I am not what they want. Guys get to pick for whatever reasons they do, so should we.
A "preference" to not meet someone, or spend time with them, based solely on their race is quite an... interesting "preference" to have.
I think there are many causes of this particular "preference", stereotypes, and the unsettling behavior of some AA men. It seems that neither cause will be going away anytime soon... and neither will the "preference"
he will share it with whoever she choose's that is what's up with that. There is to much pussy in this world to even question a ladies choice and she has one.
If it doe's not include you to bad.
Move on and find someone else can you comprehend that
Its time to move on from this discussion. Each side said their opinion. Let's kill this topic because right now things are going out of control. To sum things up, we agree to disagree. There is too much discontent on this topic. If we continue on this path, we never really accomplishing nothing. I understand both sides opinion, but at the end of the day we are an online society that are here to help those who are new. Let's take a break.
I had made a mistake trying to say that the guy is new without reading his review. I apologize if I had offended anyone from saying that he is new without fully investigating him. I thought that the score was an issue and didn't even read the total review. After I have read the review, I acknowledge that he is endangering people life with him mentioning BBFS in his review. I am not sure about his motives if it is a real review or a fake review but at the same time if it is a real review, he is wrong from it. Again I apologize and forgive me for it.
I have come across black providers who does not see bulk men?
What do you attribute it to?
My answer is, "one can exercise their freedom to do anything as long as it doesn't hourt or prevent another's freedom to exercise their freedom".
By th idiom, this is completely acceptable social behavior and people will continue do so and more as long as human race exists. Just look around and observe.
I am a black male and have seen this subject come up several times over the years and have seen comments from all sides. I think there will be emotion anytime someone says something to or about you that means that they don't like or want you. I know that we all have the right to choose who we want to see but those choices will create bad feelings and ill will with those who are excluded. At the end of the day, we are all human and want to be thought well of and will be hurt if we are perceiving that we are thought ill of. Just saying.....
Thanks for sharing. I totally get this sentiment. And isn't that at the heart of what it means to try and fit into a society? We all just want to be thought well of. And to not be pre-judged by our skin color or age or gender or skin art or weight or hair style... Just as another human being - full of worth and potential. That's certainly the world I want to live in.
Classy post - kudos to you sir.
Posted By: JustSaying
I am a black male and have seen this subject come up several times over the years and have seen comments from all sides. I think there will be emotion anytime someone says something to or about you that means that they don't like or want you. I know that we all have the right to choose who we want to see but those choices will create bad feelings and ill will with those who are excluded. At the end of the day, we are all human and want to be thought well of and will be hurt if we are perceiving that we are thought ill of. Just saying.....
Fact is, every time a woman excludes or shoots down a man, the dude gets butt hurt to some extent. Of course, when we turn down a woman it's worse and they tend to freak the F out.
Guess I'm saying we are all the same. We sure have the same emotions and feelings, because all language and communication originated from those emotions. No one has an exclusive on feelings.
Let's face it. Look around at the black Male Populous in Atlanta. A lot of young black men in the South are soooooo fucking GHETTO....Nasty. Who does that shit really appeal to? Rapper wanna be posers with their snap backs, saggy pants walking around grabbing their dicks like it's their life line. I can't wait to get the fuck out of ATL. I'm sure all black men are not created equal, but the fucking thug posers walking around with their fucking ass cracks exposed, talking shit the English language can't decipher sort of twists your thinking.
Posted By: sowens
question for the providers, should a provider even be in the buisness if they have a preference or who thet see, some providers i see post no blk men or no AAM, i mean whats up with that.
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Fun and "preference" are pretenses. If someone is shelling out the money, them being attractive and /or fun is a bonus not a requirement. If it was a requirement then why isnt it in the ADs "only men with six packs, perfect teeth, who look like Brad Pitt with personality of Jay Leno"? 
, it seems reasonable to not compare selling a meal in a restaurant per the customers skin color for example , to not meeting a person for a personal experience per their skin color ..There IS an OVERT difference , its physical to begin with - this isn't about the Equal Opportunities For Minorities Agency its about Dating a Provider and I for one have long ago had more than enough of the 'entitlement' card being played at every opportunity possible . Im not going with it , accepting it , or buying it -- bottom line to me it that a Provider can choose her clients based on anything she wants - its her body , safety ,and preference no one else's ...... Deal with it and move on like an Adul