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quadseasonal 27 Reviews 305 reads
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Anytime the Feds get their hands on anything the costs go  up.  

   I could  be wrong,  I believe I've heard there've  been escapes from  USA Super Max prison ?  
  I've also heard there are USA prison escapees still on the run, with FBI agents on their trail, day after day. year  after year.  
   
Most prisons are already overcrowded, why import  prisoners already found guilty in their own  country, and serving time ?  
 There are already  more prisoners in the USA than Wardens and guards can handle with any amount of ease.
   The cost of  El Chapo's  incarceration  will cost millions, perhaps billions in unforeseen  dollars.
  How much will they spend to insure  El Chapo doesn't escape?  
    How hard will El Chapo's mob try to get him out?  
 
   How much time and money will an already overburdened US justice system spend on El Chapo ?
   I have no doubt,  El Chapo is willing to spend  millions on  crafty, well versed  attorneys.  

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sean-penn-lied-about-el-chapo-trafficking-claim-lawyer/ar-CCvvPq?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=1PRCDEFE
     

  If the Government  doesn't learn to subtract instead of adding constantly, and learn  
  to  quit wasting money like there's no tomorrow, there'll  be an eventual avalanche of debt crashing on the entire country, worse than we've  ever seen.

    Even though I'm an adamant  Rubio supporter, I sometimes wonder, would Trump be a much  more fiscally responsible President, than we've had in the past 40 years ?  
    Probably so.  

   
     

http://www.usdebtclock.org/
   
   
   
Posted By: mattradd
Perhaps it's because Mexico did such a great job...keeping him behind bars, to begin with! NOT!   ;)
Related Link: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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What's the point in importing El Chapo to an American prison ?
    Why not let him serve his prison time in Mexico until he's dead ?

 A. It's  a feel good measure  for the Feds.
 B. It's another way to justify wasting more money.
 C. It's a test for USA prison security.  
 D. It will help  low information voters feel more secure.

    Do  you believe El Chapo  will be unable  to  authorize a hit on Sean Penn for exposing his hiding place or continue running  his criminal enterprise from a US prison?
           

http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-guzman-extradition-20160112-story.html
 
   

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Related Link: http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-guzman-extradition-20160112-s...

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mattradd271 reads

keeping him behind bars, to begin with! NOT!   ;)

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BigPapasan271 reads

...2003-2007 and thinks that's relevant.  He doesn't know that this is the SECOND time El Chapo has escaped a Mexican prison and quad wonders why he can't stay in a Mexican prison until he's dead.

It seem like notorious people always have nicknames.  With quad's notoriety for his P&R posts, he deserves a nickname too - in honor of his OP, he should be known as "quad 'La Cabeza Hueca' seasonal."

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quadseasonal267 reads

I'm not a one trick assumption pony, aka placebo spelling scholar, like you.  ROFL  
     
     You are more desperate to gain something you don't have, than anyone I've ever seen or read.  
     I'm laughing at you with a hidden sincere sympathy for your shallow ego.      :-D
   
   The link I posted in my OP has a "full story" titled "The saga of 'El Chapo,' one of the world's biggest drug kingpins" which mentioned his previous escape and life on the lam.  

  PM  if you need assistance  finding the "full story".. :-D
    I can't go on and on with you in public in the same thread or I'll be convinced you are  Priapus's clone.
   
In case you don't recall, Pri also has an ego in the gutter, mistakenly thinks of himself as a spelling scholar like you, also like you, difficulties with Cliff Notes.  

   Do you realize sometimes you whine because of  too much info and other days you scream for more details.
  I suggest you change your meds.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=257203&boardID=39&page=2#257203

Posted By: BigPapasan
...2003-2007 and thinks that's relevant.  He doesn't know that this is the SECOND time El Chapo has escaped a Mexican prison and quad wonders why he can't stay in a Mexican prison until he's dead.  
   
 It seem like notorious people always have nicknames.  With quad's notoriety for his P&R posts, he deserves a nickname too - in honor of his OP, he should be known as "quad 'La Cabeza Hueca' seasonal."
Related Link: http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=257203&boardID=3...

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Anytime the Feds get their hands on anything the costs go  up.  

   I could  be wrong,  I believe I've heard there've  been escapes from  USA Super Max prison ?  
  I've also heard there are USA prison escapees still on the run, with FBI agents on their trail, day after day. year  after year.  
   
Most prisons are already overcrowded, why import  prisoners already found guilty in their own  country, and serving time ?  
 There are already  more prisoners in the USA than Wardens and guards can handle with any amount of ease.
   The cost of  El Chapo's  incarceration  will cost millions, perhaps billions in unforeseen  dollars.
  How much will they spend to insure  El Chapo doesn't escape?  
    How hard will El Chapo's mob try to get him out?  
 
   How much time and money will an already overburdened US justice system spend on El Chapo ?
   I have no doubt,  El Chapo is willing to spend  millions on  crafty, well versed  attorneys.  

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sean-penn-lied-about-el-chapo-trafficking-claim-lawyer/ar-CCvvPq?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=1PRCDEFE
     

  If the Government  doesn't learn to subtract instead of adding constantly, and learn  
  to  quit wasting money like there's no tomorrow, there'll  be an eventual avalanche of debt crashing on the entire country, worse than we've  ever seen.

    Even though I'm an adamant  Rubio supporter, I sometimes wonder, would Trump be a much  more fiscally responsible President, than we've had in the past 40 years ?  
    Probably so.  

   
     

http://www.usdebtclock.org/
   
   
   

Posted By: mattradd
Perhaps it's because Mexico did such a great job...keeping him behind bars, to begin with! NOT!   ;)
Related Link: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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mattradd235 reads

showing criminals you (the USA) means business. I hope you didn't whine about the money spent in snuffing out Bin Laden!  ;)

Related Link: http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/22/world/americas/el-chapo/index.html

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No complaints from me about  Bin Laden's death. :-D
   I'm glad President Obama had the guts to give the final order to take Bin Laden out for the last count and give him the justice he deserved.
   
IMO much wiser decision  to kill Bin Laden where he stood in Pakistan, than spending a lot of money bringing him here, spending millions on trials and prison expense, while  risking more lives waiting for an unnecessary trial.

I don't really care what they do with El Chapo.  I'm amazed so many people want him here.  
     
   No matter how much money the Feds waste or who becomes the next President, even Bernie, I  
believe I will survive with no problem, as long as I have my health.  
   
  I am concerned about the future of young adults of today, who will likely end up paying royally for Government's  extremely wasteful ways with money.
   
   If the choice was up to me I  would rather see El Chapo receive his justice and serve his prison time in his own country, at Mexico's expense.
  If El Chapo  is still alive after he serves his sentence at home, I'll reconsider my position    

  I'd ask you why the Feds aren't pushing Cuba for the woman terrorist who escaped US prison, now a fugitive living in Cuba, but I'll save that for another day and a different thread.
   
    In the mean time I'll agree we disagree on where El Chapo should serve his time. :-

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BigPapasan269 reads

...illegal immigrants OUT and El Chapo IN.

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HONDA274 reads

The Pentagon spends $150 million/year to keep Gitmo open. This comes out to $1,000,000 per inmate per year. The GOP  talks a good game about cutting government costs and yet we have money in this case being thrown down the drain. Some of the Gitmo inmates could be jailed in the U.S. but GOP legislators keep throwning all kinds of road blocks to prevent this from happening.

 
 

Posted By: quadseasonal
 Anytime the Feds get their hands on anything the costs go  up.  
   
    I could  be wrong,  I believe I've heard there've  been escapes from  USA Super Max prison ?  
   I've also heard there are USA prison escapees still on the run, with FBI agents on their trail, day after day. year  after year.  
     
 Most prisons are already overcrowded, why import  prisoners already found guilty in their own  country, and serving time ?  
  There are already  more prisoners in the USA than Wardens and guards can handle with any amount of ease.  
    The cost of  El Chapo's  incarceration  will cost millions, perhaps billions in unforeseen  dollars.  
   How much will they spend to insure  El Chapo doesn't escape?  
     How hard will El Chapo's mob try to get him out?  
   
    How much time and money will an already overburdened US justice system spend on El Chapo ?  
    I have no doubt,  El Chapo is willing to spend  millions on  crafty, well versed  attorneys.  
   
 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sean-penn-lied-about-el-chapo-trafficking-claim-lawyer/ar-CCvvPq?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=1PRCDEFE  
       
   
   If the Government  doesn't learn to subtract instead of adding constantly, and learn    
   to  quit wasting money like there's no tomorrow, there'll  be an eventual avalanche of debt crashing on the entire country, worse than we've  ever seen.  
   
     Even though I'm an adamant  Rubio supporter, I sometimes wonder, would Trump be a much  more fiscally responsible President, than we've had in the past 40 years ?  
     Probably so.    
   
     
       
   
 http://www.usdebtclock.org/  
     
     
   
Posted By: mattradd
Perhaps it's because Mexico did such a great job...keeping him behind bars, to begin with! NOT!   ;)

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quadseasonal272 reads

One million for each prisoner !!!!........... IMO, a nickel  over fifty grand per detainee at this point  in Guantanamo Bay, another example of absurdly  flagrant Federal  waste of dollars.
 
     I am sure Trump wouldn't put up with that kind of ridiculous financial malarkey.
   
    Similar to my feelings about importing  El Chapo , I'd prefer Gitmo detainees  are not  relocated to a prison in the States.
   
    How  many U.S. cities are bidding  to import  Guantanamo Bay prisoners  and the baggage accompanying their presence ?  

 Perhaps a better solution from my point of view, change the guard in Gitmo, have Special Forces  work six months in Gitmo, six months  back home in Trumbo Point, while  saving  millions.  

   
   

Posted By: HONDA
The Pentagon spends $150 million/year to keep Gitmo open. This comes out to $1,000,000 per inmate per year. The GOP  talks a good game about cutting government costs and yet we have money in this case being thrown down the drain. Some of the Gitmo inmates could be jailed in the U.S. but GOP legislators keep throwning all kinds of road blocks to prevent this from happening.

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...... Conservative Politicians have long favored private prisons because they’re supposed to save taxpayer money. However in reality they have not: Private prisons’ relatively cheaper operating cost has not translated into lower costs to taxpayers. For-profit prisons typically house less-serious offenders, who are less costly to maintain. Private prison employees receive less training, lower pay and benefits. Yet, the contract cost to state and federal government remains about the same as the per-prisoner cost of publicly operated prisons.

http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/inc_Too_Good_to_be_True.pd

Related Link: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/marco-rubio-is-getting-big-money-from-for-profit-pris...

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DoctorGonzo275 reads

... are you fucking kidding me???

"According to Open Secrets, the second-largest for-profit prison operator in the country, GEO Group, is one of the top contributors to Marco Rubio's presidential campaign. Between 2013 and 2014, GEO Group gave Rubio $41,500, more than any other presidential candidate. The group is the ninth highest contributor to Rubio's campaign.

Is that a problem? Prison reform advocates think so, pointing to Rubio's actions as an elected official that have helped for-profit prisons — including a $110 million state contract that went to GEO back when he was Speaker of the Florida House. "

That's a heck of a Return On Investment.

So Rubio and Clinton are neck and neck with the flaccid Jeb a distant third...

sounds like a mainstream projection indeed.

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HONDA252 reads

....had to give to the PPL in return. This is exactly why I can't support Hillary Clinton. To me, it's a no-brainer. They're not giving her money for nothing in return. Many of her minority supporters are victims of the same private prison industrial complex supporting her and are clueless to this fact

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Posted By: HONDA
....had to give to the PPL in return. This is exactly why I can't support Hillary Clinton. To me, it's a no-brainer. They're not giving her money for nothing in return. Many of her minority supporters are victims of the same private prison industrial complex supporting her and are clueless to this fact
 
 I don't have a problem with the private prison concept. IMO a private company will do much better than the F the Feds usually earn, in almost every enterprise they've  been involved with.
    The Feds had their chance running prisons for too many years and failed miserably.
    I'd give private enterprise more time to learn how to run prisons efficiently.
    I'd like  like to see more competitive bidding among Private prison hopefuls.
     
    I've never seen so many politicians in one election I wouldn't support.
   
   I was thinking earlier today about the what if's coming soon, and what would I do.  

   For the GOP nomination
 Ted Cruz against anyone, I'm supporting  anyone.
 Jeb against anyone, I'm supporting anyone.
 Rubio against anyone, Trump is the only one that can lead me away from supporting Rubio.
 Christie against anyone, has he been  informed  he's already lost, though recent polls  
    would disagree with me.  
 
       General election
   Ted Cruz against the red neck, racist, crazy, over rated, exhausted lady, I'd vomit first and support Ted Cruz.

  Rubio against the red neck, racist, crazy, over rated, exhausted lady, I wouldn't vomit but I'd know I was supporting the same old status quo that's breaking the bank when I support Rubio over crazy..
   

   Trump against anyone, I'm supporting Trump, if only for the fact he'll slow down  the criminal  
    invasion and  start the process to balance our books.  
   
   We know we have an  overloaded prison problem, Trump would help alleviate that.  
   
    Another plus I've mentioned about Trump,due to his  positive self esteem, he won't  
     feel the need to meddle in other counties where we don't belong trying to make free  
      nations out of countries  full of stone age heathens, like President Bush and President Obama
     failed at..
   
    I believe,  both Bush and President Obama, had good intentions but the only thing they succeeded at was raising the misery index of "every" country where they supported democracy.
      The World needs a reprieve from ignorant guidance and excessive USA authority,
    drawing lines in playgrounds where they don't belong

    Bernie Sanders against the GOP nominee, even though Bernie stands for so much I don't agree with, I  believe he would be a better choice for the country's future, than anyone except Trump or Rubio.
   I am fairly certain Bernie wouldn't spend his mornings, wondering which foreign  country he's going to try to influence today with American dollars or military strength.
       
     I really don't believe the red neck, racist, crazy, over rated, exhausted lady will still be standing on her own on election day.   She is already too exhausted to  give Bernie the few more debates he deserves.  
     I also have the impression millions of Democrats have  becoming exhausted with her

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I don't see any politician as a hero or role model. I find  most will most lie and cheat their  
  way to office and lie much more when they have foolish followers under their spell.
   I've been noticing  more  of Trump's  great qualities as a leader and less in Rubio.
      I'm starting to believe  Rubio is too  gung ho with an authoritarian side.
   
  Anyone with common sense should  realize, after looking at the US current failures across the globe, and at home , the US can't be the  warden of the world and take care of our own business.  
  How many trillions  under the current  administration's foolhardy ways and the administration before, have been wasted like our leaders are spoiled children with unearned allowance ?  

  The current administration  has clearly shown by their numerous failures when meddling across the globe, America  need a President willing to make help America gain respect  lost in vain.
   
    Rubio is looking more and more like the crazy exhausted old lady with his hawkish ways.
   
               I'm changing my support to Trump, to make America greater than ever  
                            and end unnecessary wars.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/13/this-donald-trump-crowd-shot-from-florida-will-wow-you/
             
   

Posted By: HONDA
...... Conservative Politicians have long favored private prisons because they’re supposed to save taxpayer money. However in reality they have not: Private prisons’ relatively cheaper operating cost has not translated into lower costs to taxpayers. For-profit prisons typically house less-serious offenders, who are less costly to maintain. Private prison employees receive less training, lower pay and benefits. Yet, the contract cost to state and federal government remains about the same as the per-prisoner cost of publicly operated prisons.  
   
 http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/inc_Too_Good_to_be_True.pdf  
 
Related Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/13/this-donald-trump-crowd-shot-...

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