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In Trump's defense, I have often found reading a good book is much better and more vivid than the movie.
   Perhaps Trump and Dr. Carson read articles about Muslims celebrating 911, 15 years later they thought they saw it on live TV?  
 
 Immediately after 911 I read  numerous written reports and  TV showing  Muslims celebrating 911.
   If I'm not mistaken those Muslims were in different countries.
 
   
   After fact checking the fact checker, it looks like Kessler is a big  liar

 
 For those  wary of opening links, try google, type  Washington post fact checker Kessler doesn't read washington post.

IMO Kessler told a big lie when he quoted a story,  changed original words inside his quotation marks.  
   I'm giving Kessler five pinocchios for changing words and misleading his flock.  
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/11/washington-posts-fact-checker-doesnt-read-the-washington-post.php
     

  Rubio 2016  

 
Posted By: mattradd
And, now Carson says he saw the same thing!  
   
 And, this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-inaccurate-tweet_56524c0de4b0879a5b0b6c10  
   
 Do the Trump or Carson backers care at all about the truth!?!  ;)

In Trump's defense, I have often found reading a good book is much better and more vivid than the movie.
   Perhaps Trump and Dr. Carson read articles about Muslims celebrating 911, 15 years later they thought they saw it on live TV?  
 
 Immediately after 911 I read  numerous written reports and  TV showing  Muslims celebrating 911.
   If I'm not mistaken those Muslims were in different countries.
 
   
   After fact checking the fact checker, it looks like Kessler is a big  liar

 
 For those  wary of opening links, try google, type  Washington post fact checker Kessler doesn't read washington post.

IMO Kessler told a big lie when he quoted a story,  changed original words inside his quotation marks.  
   I'm giving Kessler five pinocchios for changing words and misleading his flock.  
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/11/washington-posts-fact-checker-doesnt-read-the-washington-post.php
     

  Rubio 2016  

 

Posted By: mattradd
And, now Carson says he saw the same thing!  
   
 And, this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-inaccurate-tweet_56524c0de4b0879a5b0b6c10  
   
 Do the Trump or Carson backers care at all about the truth!?!  ;)

November 22, 2015 by John Hinderaker in Donald Trump, Islam, Media Bias, Terrorism  
 
When the Press Attacks Donald Trump, the Truth Is Optional [Updated]

"In recent days Donald Trump has caught flak for several ostensibly anti-Muslim comments. Among them was his statement that he saw thousands of Muslims in Jersey City celebrating after the twin towers collapsed on September 11, 2001. This claim has been roundly and unanimously denounced. NPR says:

 
[W]hen he was questioned by ABC News today about his assertion that “thousands and thousands of people” cheered the collapse of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11 just across the river in New Jersey, Trump doubled down.

“It did happen. I saw it. It was on television. I saw it,” Trump said.

George Stephanopoulos responded, “You saw that with your own eyes? Police say it didn’t happen.”

Trump said: “George, it did happen. There were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey where you have large Arab populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down. …

We asked our library to look through contemporaneous news reports. They tell us that that they could not turn up any news accounts of American Muslims cheering or celebrating in the wake of Sept. 11.

A 2007 piece from Reuters about Paterson, New Jersey, does address the celebrations but it concludes that they never happened. …

After Trump initially made the assertion on the stump on Friday, The New York Times came to the same conclusion:

 
There were cheers of support in some Middle Eastern countries that day, which were broadcast on television. But a persistent Internet rumor of Muslims celebrating in Paterson, N.J., was discounted by police officials at the time. A search of news accounts from that period shows no reports of mass cheering in Jersey City.

The Associated Press also undertook to fact-check Trump’s claim:

 
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says he saw people cheering the Sept. 11 attacks across the river in New Jersey — but there’s no evidence that ever happened. …

Footage of Muslims in Middle Eastern countries cheering news of the attacks were broadcast on television.

But there is no evidence of mass celebrations by Muslims in Jersey City, which sits right across the Hudson River from Lower Manhattan.

So NPR, the New York Times and the Associated Press searched contemporaneous news accounts and could find no evidence of Muslim-Americans cheering in Jersey City. That’s odd. Because it took me less than two minutes to find this story from the Washington Post dated September 18, 2001 (although I did have to spend $3.95 to buy it from the Post’s archives):

 
In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.

Here is the story in its entirety, by Serge F. Kovaleski and Fredrick Kunkle:"

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/11/when-the-press-attacks-donald-trump-the-truth-is-optional.php

    Rubio 2016
 

Posted By: Timbow

Try reading my post again, I made no mention of Trump's veracity.  
   Anyone paying attention  should know by now, Trump is King of exaggeration.
   If I didn't know better I'd think you have your head in the sand.  
 Perhaps reading Huff Puff as your main source of news clouds your eyes while  altering  reality.  
 
  My main point Kessler, is a big  liar, especially since he misquoted the Washington Post, feebly  trying  to  pull Trump down.  
   I wish someone will find something substantial on Trump to get him off the stage instead of flinging  straws of exaggeration.  
   Trump's polls rise again amongst numbers of people.
     
How many is a number of people?  
    It's not singular in my book, it could be thousands in some situations.
   If you'd like examples, let me know.  
     I'll reply later when I'm home from work
 

 Rubio 2016
 

   

Posted By: quadseasonal
In Trump's defense, I have often found reading a good book is much better and more vivid than the movie.  
    Perhaps Trump and Dr. Carson read articles about Muslims celebrating 911, 15 years later they thought they saw it on live TV?  
   
  Immediately after 911 I read  numerous written reports and  TV showing  Muslims celebrating 911.  
    If I'm not mistaken those Muslims were in different countries.  
   
     
    After fact checking the fact checker, it looks like Kessler is a big  liar  
   
   
  For those  wary of opening links, try google, type  Washington post fact checker Kessler doesn't read washington post.  
   
 IMO Kessler told a big lie when he quoted a story,  changed original words inside his quotation marks.  
    I'm giving Kessler five pinocchios for changing words and misleading his flock.  
 http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/11/washington-posts-fact-checker-doesnt-read-the-washington-post.php  
       
   
   Rubio 2016

"In Trump's defense, I have often found reading a good book is much better and more vivid than the movie.
   Perhaps Trump and Dr. Carson read articles about Muslims celebrating 911, 15 years later they thought they saw it on live TV?"

Defending the indefensible! ;)

See, my reading comprehension is just fine. Next time clearly state your main point!   ;)

FatVern289 reads

I heard a hip hop artist say that people cheered when the towers fell, and I believe he said this was in Brooklyn. Not quite the same thing Trump was saying, and I have no way to verify that this happened. Nor do I believe that the majority of those people would be Muslim.

I believe that there are probably a lot of sadistic people who celebrate terror events of any kind.

Posted By: mattradd
And, now Carson says he saw the same thing!  
   
 And, this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-inaccurate-tweet_56524c0de4b0879a5b0b6c10  
   
 Do the Trump or Carson backers care at all about the truth!?!  ;)
We all saw it. The Washington Post even (accidentally) reported it happening here in America. Oops!

BTW, who doesn't care that they are being lied to

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