Saddam being removed is just another thing contributing to the problem but not the cause. You have a general population that is uneducated, very poor, very little hope of making their lives better. Terrorism and religious fanatics have been on going there for decades, centuries if really want to look at it. Think to yourself if ISIS existed during Saddams reign would he have done anything to stop them? I doubt it if they weren't threatening his power. He didn't try to remove terrorist training camps that were there so why would Isis be treated differently?
Are the French attacks Obama s fault? No. I ll maintain what I be said before, individuals or small groups willing to die to kill and create chaos are almost impossible to stop. our thoughts are too black and white on many of these situations. We couldn't stop it in Vietnam, Russia couldn't stop it in Afghanistan, Germany couldn't stop it during ww2 in countries they had millions of military personal and killed civilians at will to surpress them. The Romans at times killed or enslaved whole populations because they couldn't stop it.
I feel for everyone in Paris and anyone who lost friends and family. It s really not a time to blame anyone for what happened other than the group directly responsible.
Posted By: willywonka4u
I had an interesting conversation at work today. A coworker (who's quite conservative) starts going off on how horrible Obama is because apparently it's his fault that ISIS hit Paris. Now, despite what I say here on the ole P&R, talking about politics tends to be frowned upon in my office. I find it best to basically make short non-committal remarks like, "eh. what can ya do?" whenever the subject comes up. But for whatever reason, today my coworker decided, fuck it, it's Friday, today is the day where I get to talk shit about Obama because ISIS hit Paris.
Normally, I approach such things with as much humor as I can. I thought of being a smart ass and asking, "wait, Obama is President of France too?" But just as my coworker thought, fuck it, it's Friday, I felt the exact same way.
I told my coworker, "you know who should be blamed for this? George Dubya Bush." I explained to my coworker that all the fuck way back in 2002, Colin Powell laid out the Pottery Barn Rule. If you break it, you fucking own it. ISIS never would have existed if Dubya hadn't invaded Iraq and occupied the place while the place turned into a bigger piece of shit than it already was. Without the invasion of Iraq, you'd have no ISIS. And without ISIS, the attack on Paris never would have happened.
7 years out of office, and that fucking cowboy idiot is still getting people killed.
