Very similar situation happened to me.  With a highly reviewed woman too.  Who also seemed so educated and knowledgeable, she had to know better.  I know I did, but the little head had temporary control over me as I let her take me inside her.  After 2, maybe 3, strokes I came back to my senses and requested the coat.

Thankfully I took and passed a comprehensive (and might I say time-consuming and painfully expensive) STD test after that.  But the interim moments of extreme anxiety and reflection brought to light how astronomical of a gamble I had taken.  

"Not worth it" doesn't even begin to describe it.



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You can do it using private messages or some other discrete means. Such providers are danger to all of us in this and should be forced out.

There is absolutely no such thing as "absolutely safe bbfs". Every woman in the hobby is not as honorable as we would all like to believe (of course, the same goes for men as well)Once you put money on the table the risk/reward factor becomes an issue for both sides. Good luck to you in your search and please let us know if you find any takers so that the rest of us can avoid her....

and you got a loud and clear answer from both from both hobbyists and providers.  It really sucks when people disagree with you, doesn't it?  

Why bother trying to justify your question?!?

Ok, you didn't get it the first time, so let me really spell it out this time.

First, I would love to say that absolutely no way would you find a provider who would agree to your suggestion. Sadly though, as Fish pointed out, there are women out there who will go BB for reasons that pass my understanding. So to your initial question of can you find what you are looking for - the answer is an unfortunate yes.

Now, lets look at the reality of your idea. First off, as my original post attempted to demonstrate, the first assumption you have to make in order for your scenario to work is to assume that the lady you are talking to is honest and ethical. You mention "stay out of commission between test and engagement". Problem #1: You are relying on HER honesty here. What if its three days from test to tryst? Do you seriously think she's not going to see anyone in the interim? Are you prepared to reimburse her not only for the time you spend with her, but also for the days she is "out of commission"? That's alot of beans. Secondly, to be absolutley blunt, any woman you find who agrees to this scenario is questionable right out of the gate for even AGREEING to your suggestion. Absolutely no woman with common sense would even consider it, so you've just hit the jackpot right from jump street with a woman who quite likely doesn't exactly have the highest of safety standards for you or herself. So your chances of her being honest and actually abstaining just hit the dirt.

Secondly, I don't think you realize just how much time you are really talking about. Perhaps you don't realize that STD's will not show a positive result for a certain length of time after infection. Every disease of the body has an incubation period, during which a test for the disease may or may not return a positive result even though infection has occurred, and the person is infectious to others. For bacterial bugs like gonnhorea and syphilis, we are talking a turnaround time of a few days. For viral infections though, the time between infection and positive STD screen can be weeks, or in the case of HIV, months. There are now two tests for HIV. the older method that detects HIV antibodies still won't show a positive result for up to 3-4 months following infection. A newer test however, screens for HIV in the blood stream. However, that test still takes an average of 10-14 days before infection is detected. During that incubation period the person is infectious, but an STD panel will NOT show a positive result. So in essence, you don't need a lady who will abstain for the few days between test and tryst. If you want absolute certainty then both you AND her must go a minimum of 2 weeks from your last encounter, THEN get tested, THEN go and have some fun with no worries.

Yeah, that  condom thing is just darned annoying. But the alternative to using a condom is Russian roulette, plain and simple. If going without a raincoat really is that important to you, my suggestion is for you to sign up for an account on every dating site on the internet, then cross your fingers to find a wife, if you don't already have one. Absolute monomgomy is the ONLY way to gurantee STD free worries while still enjoying going free willie style.