USGrantlover is trying real hard but still sounds like a clueless GOP supporter.

So again you ran away because you couldn't take the truth about your political party?

Then you want to come on here trying to sound so smart.
When we all can see you are full of shit and acting like a bitch.

This is a place where people debate and go at it.
We don't run away like you, but come up with counter answers to people's bullshit.

Just remember cowards are not tough! Lol

The NYT article is excerpts. I’d like to read the entire delivery but can’t find it.

In some respects Goldwater would have aligned more with the “No Nothings” than the Republicans. Goldwater was more a libertarian and than he was a conservative. The No Nothings refused to take a stance against slavery, much the same as Goldwater refused to take a stand against abortion.

This viewpoint from Goldwater is not unusual at all as he was essentially the leading libertarian of the day (like the Pauls but with more stature yet still easy to label as crazy). Is the take away that people involved in politics that refuse to give an inch on certain moral issues are too divisive to be political partners?

If it hadn’t been for ardent religious factions that were relentlessly against slavery would Lincoln and the Republicans had succeeded (granted, hard to call The Civil War a success at the time. Historically very much so).

Religiousity in the country has always come in waves, sometimes referred to as awakenings. I sincerely do not believe the passionate and zealous religious types woke up one day a generation or so ago, got together, and decided to take over the government in order to force the Christian version of Sharia on everyone. No, it was the direct result of a major moral event that was thrust upon them. Of course that was Roe v. Wade in 1973. That and several other examples that can be construed as attacks of Christians. Granted it’s been going on long enough that the chicken or the egg argument comes into play. What’s most important most recently is the secular, anti religious has learned that certain accusations, founded or not, get amplified in the media (main stream and social). The far left has learned how to use these mere accusations as political weapons. After awhile the religious are to some degree only fighting back.

I’m about as un-religious as Goldwater yet just as conservative but I’m far more compassionate to and understanding of the “Religious Right” than Goldwater. It’s probably because I’m Pro-Life, unlike Goldwater