If you're a glutton for punishment and you attempt to book with her again, and she Fs you over again, that's on you.
Of course, in that case, it would be reasonable to ID the guilty party so the rest of us aren't similarly F'd with. In the highly unlikely event this person actually honors a second appointment commitment, a discount is in order. dudeWhen a provider NCNS on you, what do you usually do? Give them a second chance if you've never seen them before? Ask for additional time at no additional donation?
Obviously it's different Indy v. an agency. But as many now will blacklist or require a cancellation fee , is it fair as a hobbyist to look for recompense for your wasted time as they would for theirs'?
It depends but to be honest no provider will give you extra time.
Just find someone else - why even try again?
i dont agree. I know I cant be the only one..if I am very late due because of something beyond my control (and that is the ONLY reason I am late) or something goes wrong on my part, I have done it..provided extra time at the next meeting. I believe as a professional, I should make up for what ever has gone wrong. It rarely happens, but it has happened..
A ncns I have never done it or understand anyone that has done it..
business is business...treat your clients right and they will do the same...But thats me and I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this way....
Just find someone else - why even try again?
If anyone on either side NCNS they basically have lost all rights to the benefit of the doubt. Giving a heads up takes 10 secs. Even if it's a brief, I can't explain but it's urgent have to cancel...
I've never NCNS anyone. I'm literally not even entertaining any communication after a NCNS unless they are sending payment.
Now if it's a late cancel that's justified? I have definitely had to cancel within a few hours due to travel/sickness/extenuating circumstances and I have extended offers of extra time to make up for it.
But as mentioned, why do you want to try again with someone you haven't met who shows you early on that they are incapable of communicating well?
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When I used to do outcalls in Manhattan, I would literly always be 5-10 mins late and that was not my fault , it was due to Manhattan crazy traffic! I apologized , but there wasn't anything I could do. So I don't feel like it's my mistake.
The no show no call thing, I've never done that to anybody before because I know how much of a waste of time it is! I've had a client do that to me, so I know how it feels, in my opinion, you will not get a second chance. I mean if you called and said your sorry and gave me a legit reason for you not showing up.. Maybe I'll give you another try but with deposit. But if you just went MIA and didn't call . You lost you chance.
I say if she didn't call you at all, just move on to the next provider. Just my humble opinion hehe.
To give more clarity without giving away details to make it easier to understand my position:
She is an independent provider based out of Long Island that meets all of the criteria I look for in a provider and has consistently positive reviews. So much so that I have spoken with other hobbyists about them and gotten nothing but positive feedback. I know my fellow hobbyists on Long Island understand my predicament.
And yes, it was a true NCNS. I contacted her via text almost a full hour before our appointment and several times thereafter with two phone calls toward the time frame when I left which was almost a half an hour after our date was set to begin with both calls going to voicemail. I additionally sent her an email shortly thereafter asking what happened and if anything was wrong, all of which I am yet to get a response on. I am willing to give a second chance, and in fact will most likely do so. But that is why I am asking if I should inquire about additional time or a discounted rate. As many of you have mentioned, you are professionals who deserve to be treated right by your clients just as the clients deserve to get the same courtesy. I am just trying to figure out how to proceed. Thank you all for your feedback!
If you're a glutton for punishment and you attempt to book with her again, and she Fs you over again, that's on you.
Of course, in that case, it would be reasonable to ID the guilty party so the rest of us aren't similarly F'd with.
In the highly unlikely event this person actually honors a second appointment commitment, a discount is in order.
dude
I say leave it alone. One thing I believe in is that things happen for a reason. Sometimes the NCNS is someone who might have ended up being a problem or something bad was going to happen.
You never know. Maybe LE was around; maybe she got sick and could have infected you with something, maybe she figured out she knew you from someplace. etc....
I have had NCNS where I suspect it was a situation where the provider might have felt that she know me from someplace. It might have been a blessing we did not meet.
Anyone can be late once or twice. I would challenge you that being 5-10 minutes late "literally always" isn't something you can do something about. Leaving 5-10 minutes earlier comes to mind. 
But, lateness I can get over. It happens and unless my schedule is so tight that the lateness means the date will be cut short, then I usually don't mind. But for someone to simply not show up, and also not call? No. There have to be really extreme extenuating circumstances before I'd consider giving that person a second chance
"is it fair as a hobbyist to look for recompense for your wasted time as they would for theirs"
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Um. It doesn't work like that. She didn't care enough to keep the date the first time. You think she's going to be more motivated to show up if you ask for a discount?
NCNS is the most inconsiderate thing a person can do. The only way I would ever consider seeing someone who had done that to me would be if they were ridiculously well reviewed, they had a reasonable sounding excuse (that explained why they couldn't even text) and they spontaneously offered to make it up to me, somehow. Even then, I'd only consider it. And I certainly would never ask for such.
You were had. Move on.
If the provider was a NSNC the day of, but did call or email with good reason the following day, I might say a second shot was in order. But the circumstances would have to be really legitimate (family issues, severe sickness, etc). As for giving additional time as compensation, it should be standard practice. I recently had a provider text me 10 minutes after our date start time that she was running 10 minutes late only to show up an hour late. Upon arriving, she was extremely apologetic and told me outright that there was no clock and not to worry. A 90 minute date turned into a three hour experience that left me happily dazed.
Not everyone deserves a second chance, but it's still up to you to decide. If you want to see her that badly, don't be upset if things don't end up being what you expect because now you will have the anticipation factor to deal with being that you are hoping things will be that incredible.