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Speaking of leaving, don't you have a plane to catch?
GaGambler 222 reads
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You seem to hate both America and Americans, why wait any longer? If you are broke, I am sure I can pass the hat and we can all chip in and buy you a one way ticket to down under.

US illegal immigration vs. other countries:

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN  BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12  YEARS HARD LABOR.
IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN  BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.
IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN  BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER  ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE  BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.
IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN  BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE  SEALED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN  INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

 If YOU cross the Mexican Border Illegally,   you will end up  in a Mexican Federal Jail for a very long stay that is NOT very nice! Believe me, you do NOT want to end up in a Mexican Jail!!!!!

 
IF YOU CROSS THE U.S.  BORDER  ILLEGALLY YOU GET:

1 - A JOB,
2 - A DRIVERS LICENSE,
3 - SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
4 - WELFARE,
5 - FOOD STAMPS,
6 - CREDIT CARDS,
7 - SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
8 - FREE EDUCATION,
9 - FREE HEALTH CARE,
10 - A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON ,
11 - BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS   PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
12 - AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR  COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH  RESPECT.

 
I'm just asking,
isn't it time for
a change in our
policies, so that  
we match what  
other countries do...?

Am I out-of-line for
wanting us to change

......for food stamps, free health care, free education, subsidized housing, a drivers license, credit cards or welfare. Are you getting your misleading information from Trump?

...it up on the computer screen without bothering with links.  Links are only for those armed with facts, not poop.

Drivers License:

http://learningenglish.voanews.com/content/illegal-immigrants-can-now-get-a-drivers-license/2598128.html

Mr. Alvarado entered the United States from El Salvador eight years ago without permission from the U.S. government. Some call such people “illegal immigrants.” Others call them “undocumented immigrants.”

Mr. Alvarado works as a gardener. This is the first time he has been able to seek a driver’s license in the U.S. He must prove his identity and show that he lives in California to start the process

Police once caught Mr. Alvarado driving without a license. He says he had to pay a fine of $800.
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Food Stamps:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/04/case-worker-illegal-aliens-got-food-stamps-by-the-vanload/

McNees contacted Judicial Watch after reading documents obtained by JW from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) detailing how the agency is working with the Mexican government to promote participation by illegal aliens in the U.S. food stamp program. The effort includes a Spanish-language flyer provided to the Mexican Embassy by the USDA ensuring that Mexicans in the U.S. don’t need to declare their immigration status to get financial assistance from Uncle Sam.

The documents ignited outrage considering the nation’s food stamp program has exploded under President Obama, who claims there are too many “food insecure households” in America. To correct the problem the administration has spent millions on ad campaigns promoting food stamps and has rewarded states with multi-million-dollar bonuses for signing up recipients. It’s been quite effective because American taxpayers spent an astounding $80.4 billion on the program in 2012 and a record number of people—46 million and growing—get free groceries from Uncle Sam.
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Home ownership:

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/american-dream-undocumented

To take out the loan, he used an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), which the IRS issues to foreign nationals without Social Security numbers for tax-filing purposes, whether or not they are legally present. Not all ITIN mortgages go to undocumented immigrants, but they may be able to qualify for such loans, so long as the lender doesn’t require verification of legal status or otherwise screen them out.  

Hugo isn’t wealthy. His wife cleans houses a few times a week to help make ends meet. He still regrets sinking money into that timeshare in Florida, where he got behind on payments. But his $37,000 salary at the restaurant sets his income above newer arrivals toiling for the minimum wage, or less.

As the area’s immigrant community has become more established, the promise of homeownership has started beckoning to them, too. Nationally, 35% of undocumented immigrants are homeowners, according to a 2009 study from the Pew Hispanic Center. Of those who’ve lived in the U.S. for a decade or more, 45% own their homes.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/undocumented-immigrants-buy-property-u-s-article-1.1792789
http://www.nationalmortgagenews.com/news/risk-management/setting-the-record-straight-on-mortgages-for-undocumented-immigrants-1042907-1.html
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Housing:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-01-01-public-housing_N.htm

The federal government, which funds the lion's share of the nation's public housing, requires only that illegal immigrants share a home with at least one family member who is in the country legally and pay their share of the rent

... sort of enjoying the crickets this morning instead of the usual drivel and pablum.

well done "ex".

Timbow213 reads

Posted By: HONDA
......for food stamps, free health care, free education, subsidized housing, a drivers license, credit cards or welfare. Are you getting your misleading information from Trump?

nuguy46243 reads

Posted By: ex
US illegal immigration vs. other countries:  
   
 IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN  BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12  YEARS HARD LABOR.  
 IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN  BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.  
 IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN  BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.  
 IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER  ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.  
 IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE  BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.  
 IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN  BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE  SEALED.  
 IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN  INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.  
   
  If YOU cross the Mexican Border Illegally,   you will end up  in a Mexican Federal Jail for a very long stay that is NOT very nice! Believe me, you do NOT want to end up in a Mexican Jail!!!!!  
   
   
 IF YOU CROSS THE U.S.  BORDER  ILLEGALLY YOU GET:  
   
 1 - A JOB,  
 2 - A DRIVERS LICENSE,  
 3 - SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,  
 4 - WELFARE,  
 5 - FOOD STAMPS,  
 6 - CREDIT CARDS,  
 7 - SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,  
 8 - FREE EDUCATION,  
 9 - FREE HEALTH CARE,  
 10 - A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON ,  
 11 - BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS   PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE  
 12 - AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR  COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH  RESPECT.  
   
   
 I'm just asking,  
 isn't it time for  
 a change in our  
 policies, so that  
 we match what  
 other countries do...?  
   
 Am I out-of-line for  
 wanting us to change?  
 

GaGambler223 reads

You seem to hate both America and Americans, why wait any longer? If you are broke, I am sure I can pass the hat and we can all chip in and buy you a one way ticket to down under.

More illegals have been deported under President Obama than any other President.

the issue "ex" posted about, or did you just decide to try to change the topic of the thread?

I'm guessing you didn't read his supporting links, either, as they actually referred to his original topic.

Ah well, here is a link to some real data for you (rather than your own bunch of BS) on your topic of "deportation numbers":

     http://cis.org/ICE-Illegal-Immigrant-Deportations

Since I don't think you'll read the whole link, here are the top four key findings for your edification and blind political partisan pleasure:

Key Findings:

    The number of deportations resulting from interior enforcement by ICE declined by 19 percent from 2011 to 2012, and is on track to decline another 22 percent in 2013.

    In 2012, the year the Obama administration claimed to break enforcement records, more than one-half of removals attributed to ICE were the result of Border Patrol arrests that would never have been counted as a removal in prior years. In 2008, under the Bush administration, only one-third of removals were from Border Patrol arrests.

    Total deportations in 2011, the latest year for which complete numbers are available, numbered 715,495 – the lowest level since 1973. The highest number of deportations on record was in 2000, under the Clinton administration, when 1,864,343 aliens were deported.

    When claiming record levels of enforcement, the Obama administration appears to count only removals, which are just one form of deportation, and only a partial measure of enforcement. Beginning in 2011, a shift of some of the routine Border Patrol case load to ICE enabled the administration to count an artificially high number of removals.

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