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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" ;)teeth_smile
mattradd 40 Reviews 341 reads
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"'The lady doth protest too much, methinks' is a quotation from the 1602 play Hamlet by William Shakespeare. It has been used as a figure of speech, in various phrasings, to indicate that a person's overly frequent or vehement attempts to convince others of something have ironically helped to convince others that the opposite is true, by making the person look insincere and defensive."

Like Honda said, I hope the you and the Republicans keep up the good work!   ;

JackDunphy1718 reads

Will the liberals join me in calling for the end of the Black Caucus and the the Black Mayors Conference?

Makes sense now, right?

GaGambler436 reads

I'd be okay with that.  We have equal rights already, I've never expected anything more than a reasonably even playing field. We didn't always have one, but as a group we seemed to do ok anyhow. Now that we do have an even playing field, except of course for the fact that we have to score higher than EVERYBODY else, including white people, to get into schools, jobs, etc, but  aside for that, I don't see much that we have to bitch about. So feel free to start with us.

I don't think we have a Mayor's conference, or any kind of Caucus now that I think of it. If there is an Asian Caucus or Mayor's Conference feel free to dismantle them too.

...claim  that "we are in the process of getting rid of all vestiges of racis (sic) and discrimination."

So how about calling for the elimination of THE Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish Congress, the Simon Wiesenthal Center and many other similar Jewish organizations?  As you say about Asians, Jews seem to do ok, they have an even playing field and they don't have much to bitch about.

The Jews control Hollywood, the news media and the banks.  They comprise 1.4% of the US population yet 5.2% of Congress is Jewish.  And AIPAC has undue influence in getting politicians to serve the needs of Israel, rather than the US.

The Jews need the ADL like they need a "loch in kop."  Isn't that right, GaG

GaGambler293 reads

but I am not Jewish, so it's not really like I should get a vote.

I will say that I cringe every time I see Asian people starting to get all PC and especially when some ubersensitive Asian person starts going on about how being called "Oriental" is such an ethnic slur. There are some very serious issues where it comes to race going on in this country, being called Oriental is hardly one of them.

but back to Jack's point, do we really want to encourage more of these race based organizations? If we really want to advance equal rights and "color blindness" shouldn't we try to have less organizations devoted to the advancement of only one race, regardless of what race that happens to be?

........ No really, it's doing wonders for your political party that you keep alienating minorities around you...lo

Racial division and exclusion is horrible when Republicans or whites do it, but perfectly fine when libs and blacks do so.  

No shock Daffy Duck is part of the group. LOL

Obama, Sharpton and Rev. Wright would all be proud of you! :D

bigguy30223 reads

Posted By: JackDunphy
Will the liberals join me in calling for the end of the Black Caucus and the the Black Mayors Conference?  
   
 Makes sense now, right?

...libs like fiddles in the best tradition of Jack's idol and fellow Mensa member followme.

But here's an example of why racism will never be eliminated in America - a racist Facebook rant by a teacher of fourth graders; someone who shapes young minds.  Do you think she doesn't ever bring her racist views into the classroom?

You couldn't even muster the courage to oppose a government group that discriminates against a person solely based on the color of their skin, but you were all too eager to point to some person's Facebook rant. Too funny.

If you really want to know why racism will always be with us BP, your response would be  "exhibit A."  LOL

Yeah...I think we're done here. :D :D



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...You have the same tell - when you lose an argument and are made to look foolish, you declare victory: "Yeah...I think we're done here. :-D :-D"

In your next post, you can use the telling phrase of your fellow argument-loser Dr Who and say: "Thanks for playing.

If I "lost" that argument, that would mean you are in favor of racial discrimination. LOL

Did you even take a second to consider the ridiculous logic you just applied to your response?

No, apparently not.

Get back to me when you think people shouldn't be discriminated against solely based on their skin color.

...when you stated that "we are in the process of getting rid of all vestiges of racis (sic) and discrimination."

If you really believe that, you're the biggest Pollyanna to ever walk the face of the Earth.  It's a bullshit premise so that you could take a shot at the (Congressional) Black Caucus and the Conference of Black Mayors.  At least get the names of the groups right so you don't look quite so ignorant and uninformed.

Have you not been paying attention to the news in the last 10 days? The last 10 years? The last 50 years?

And asking groups to move ahead towards a more post racial society is taking a shot at them? How?

I didn't rip those groups. I merely asked if we should cling to discrimination based on skin color.

Why do you think the Black Caucus and the Conference of Black Mayors are above criticism?  

Sorry BP, but racism can come from people of any color.

It isn't only directed towards blacks from whites.

...the need for the existence of the two black groups mentioned.  So why are you now changing your tune and talking about CRITICIZING these groups rather that ELIMINATING these groups?  You see, that's why you wanted to quit when you said "I think we're done here."  ROFLMAO!!  Now that you've demonstrated the level of your intelligence, we really are done here!

As you know, the Jews control the world, so will conservatives join me in calling for the elimination of the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish Congress, the Simon Wiesenthal Center and many other such Jewish organizations

Now, Gag would say you are parsing words!   ;)

GaGambler286 reads

Yes, I actually think that many of these organizations have outlived their usefulness, and now actually create more rifts than they solve.

"'The lady doth protest too much, methinks' is a quotation from the 1602 play Hamlet by William Shakespeare. It has been used as a figure of speech, in various phrasings, to indicate that a person's overly frequent or vehement attempts to convince others of something have ironically helped to convince others that the opposite is true, by making the person look insincere and defensive."

Like Honda said, I hope the you and the Republicans keep up the good work!   ;

Because moderate Matt would have taken a clear stand against racial discrimination. ;)

Tell him I said hi when you see him. LOL

GaGambler284 reads

That's one of the reasons I quit talking to Bird Brain. There was just no ending a thread with him. Like Matt he would argue the smallest details, and argue them for days, only to claim victory once the other person grew so tired of the subject they quit answering.  

I don't know about the rest of you, but I know I am not going to accomplish anything here, but to waste some time, and maybe have a laugh or two. Talking to morons that alternatively want to parse words to "prove" they were right, or just outright like about a topic for weeks has ceased to be any fun for me. Daffy has finally worn me out again, and now I may talk "about" him on occasion, but I see no reason to actually talk "to" him.

And, despite GaG's claims, I don't keep score, and I can't ever recall claiming I won any argument. I've stated, several times, that that is not my intent, but to have a dialog. Now, if someone says something I feel is unsubstantiated by them, I will hold their feet to the fire for them to back up their claims. Gag's whole thing about parsing words is just his way of saying ' being held accountable to what one says.' I notice he never says anything about Ed, who strains at gnats while swallowing camels.  ;)

GaGambler401 reads

In your defense you are better about this than Laffy and a thousand times smarter than fatgirl, but there is no denying that you will argue minutia for days, long after the horse is not only dead, but his name forgotten.

...in this thread to "prove" Bill O'Reilly still had a radio program on the air.  He became so desperate that he had to hook up with quad, for God's sake.

You still can't or won't recognize what "on the radio" means. Hear goes again. You turn on the radio to the correct station at the correct time and Bill O's voice comes out of the speaker. Voila.  

I didn't change or nuance anything along the way (as matt does) in my attempts to open your brain (and ears).

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I used to be the only person that refused to "give in" to matt's never ending obfuscation via his changing the subject.  

I say I used to be the only one because now I believe the number of people willing to engage him at his own low level now equals ZERO.

Just think about this for a second. Who else, other than straight white males, is it socially acceptable to say bigoted things about? You see this kind of hypocrisy from the left endlessly. I have even seen white liberals say things like "White people suck". How much cognitive dissonance is required to say something so stupid?

Recently I saw a website where a bunch of liberals were reacting to white southerns waving a confederate flag. They called these people "dirt stupid" and "idiot rednecks". A few references were made to riding lawnmowers and trailer parks.  

I asked one of these guys, can't you see that you're being just as bigoted as the people you're criticizing? They replied that "it's not bigotry if it's true"

I then showed this person FBI crime statistics showing that blacks are the most likely race to steal things. I said, would it then be racist to say "black people steal things?"  

There's no question that a lot of people on the right are just plain old racists. But the left are racial hypocrites and bigots themselves. Don't you dare say anything critical about black people. Or gays. Or Muslims. Or Asians. Or Hispanics. Or Lesbians. Or Hindus. Or women. Or eskimos. But if you're a straight white male, fuck you dude! You're a sack of shit we everyone's justified in hating you!  

I think I'm going to stop identifying as a straight white male. I'm going to start saying that I identify as a black woman, who's a lesbian, who's trapped in a white man's body. See, in the Oppression Olympics, everyone wins.

Sounds like an interesting idea, but you'd be very displeased with the results.

GaGambler281 reads

I have been claiming to be a lesbian trapped in a man's body for years now.  

Of course, I have not claimed to be a black woman, nor am I trapped in a "white" man's body, so I suppose I can grant you an exemption.

and yes some of the biggest racists are not white in color. fatgirl is a perfect example of a black person being a racist, do you see the stuff he posted about Asian people in an effort to get under my skin? Of course what I found hilarious is that he was using the fact that some Asian people intermarry as proof of our inferiority and in the very same post admitted to being a "breed" himself. That was almost as funny as TrannyBoy calling me "GayGambler"

What people often forget is that we are not that far removed from jim crows times and thus the names of these groups reflect that, but also it is telling that the founders of these groups never thought that society would get to this point that we are at in 2015. There are number of different caucuses in congress and they are just a means to organize to specific interests. The Black Caucus should rename themselves in honor of the first black congressman and turn to a more future looking objective that is race neutral, but at the same time continue push laws that improve the situation of black folks by helping out everyone.    

Some people point at stats about the black population crime rates, but then at the same time you call out black conferences that are setup to address some of those problems. If you don't believe me, then you need to look at cspan.

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