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I like your definition of GFE, Grace....regular_smile
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I think you are spot on. As a matter of fact, I know you are! ;)

I'm sure a few will chime in with specific acts and conditions (the mechanics), but it is the atmosphere and overall experience that matters to me.

Have a great Sunday!

Z

I know what the initials stand for obviously, but what it means to be an ideal "girlfriend" - even if only for a short time - is so personal.  I see "ISO GFE," and "____ provides the ultimate GFE," a lot so I'm curious to know what "GFE" means to other providers and patrons. Is it more atmospheric or mechanical?  

To me, it means being genuine and warm and giving. Being someone that makes the other person (or people) feel comfortable and relaxed.  What about you?

To be clear, I don't think there's a right answer. I'm just curious and interested in starting a conversation. :)

I think you are spot on. As a matter of fact, I know you are! ;)

I'm sure a few will chime in with specific acts and conditions (the mechanics), but it is the atmosphere and overall experience that matters to me.

Have a great Sunday!

Z

I'm very glad you do, Zen! I hope you had a great weekend!

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I was involved twice with a Canadian provider here in NYC, She advetise full GFE and delivered,  I give Her a very good review, after that She didn't want to kiss or anything intimated, not even touch Her down there or lick, and I'm a very clean and gentle guy, so after my review She become a really cheap and low class escort, just want to milk me and go, for $500 and hour She was a disappointment, you can get the same service for $50 dollars in the Bronx from a street walker. And later I find out this was Her modus operandi with everyone. She was intersted only in reviews. I'm happy that She got caught at the border and She will never be able to come back to USA. Now She is charging $250 an hour in Montreal. Karma is a bitch. LOL

...that you are sharing the moment with me instead of just performing an act...

... Hell there is now a movie and tv series called GFE. Now THAT is main stream. And MAIN ST will now define GFE as it is defined on those shows. Funny actually.

To me, GFE is about supplying an energy, environment, and attitude of being someone's play partner/lover/friend. There should be chemistry, enjoyment, and excitement present that brings out the best in both the client and the provider. GFE should really be about the experience, and the other acronyms that are associated with GFE are indeed a huge part of creating an environment and experience like i described above.

Allowing for things like bbbj, daty/dato, make-out sessions, and basically anything that would constitute not being a living glory hole are all parts of what makes GFE GFE.  In the past, Ive had experiences that were indeed NOT GFE because of the time allotted for the session (I personally have no idea how one can really do a GFE session in under an hour), and it's something I decidedly don't enjoy. I'm supposed to act like lover in order to offer GFE, but I can't act like a lover unless I'm treated like one.  

So while GFE is definitely a set of particular acts, it's also an attitude that both provider and client have to share. Because believe me; trying to engage in GFE as a provider with a client who clearly doesn't want it is pretty embarrassing.

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I'm an Old School guy and believe the ball is initially in the guy's court in this so-called "hobbying" endeavour. Just like in real-life dating, romance...and beyond.

Such as? He acts affectionately towards her ("BFE") and in turn she reacts ("GFE"). If he channels his inner Otis Redding ("Try A Little Tenderness"), a good mutual connection might blossom over the span of multiple dates. No guarantees of course.

Looking at your web page, I would say that your message is that you are a GFE companion.

At a minimum it means CFS, BBBJ, DATY and DFK.  

The "genuine warm and giving" are all nice, and appreciated, but if it doesn't also include my "Big Four" menu must haves, the words you use are meaningless to me

You can PM me if you want to discuss this in more depth but this is how I feel.

The term GFE is so overused and in my personal opinion I would say 1 out of ever 15 women has the potential to be a GFE type of provider. 2 out of the 30 girls I have met are GFE providers more so than everyone else. They touch the clients they see. They don't look at you as a slot machine they see the entire puzzle. The type of provider that you would trust with your life and she would trust you with hers. Again this takes time doesn't happen on the first or second date. You don't love them but you have there backs and they have yours. They dig into you and leave an impression well after you are done spending time with them. That is what I would call a GFE provider. Someone who you don't speak to often who checks up on you to you to see if you are still breathing. Someone who just understands you. The air is electric and the sessions are magical.  

Again these are my thoughts. A provider becomes GFE when I or you the client open up to her. The way she reacts to what you have to say. A provider that is willing to listen without it being for the betterment of her wallet. Someone who wants to be in your presence someone who sees something in you which only she can see. She has gem written all over here. Someone who doesn't fit in with the crowd but stands on her own merits.

These are the truly great providers who offer what I would call GFE Sessions. Like I said these take time to develop but they give you what other providers won't or can't. You either have it or you don't.  

Those are my thoughts.

 

 
I open up with the provider and give her a real piece of who I am and why I am here. I might share a life experience ask for a piece of advise on something that is haunting me. etc

In my mind to truly get to a GFE level with a provider I need to be very comfortable with the person. It might happen on a 2nd date 5th date or later. I'm not pouring out my soul to anyone on the first date. First dates should be fun and just flow.  

 

 

Posted By: hellogracekay
I know what the initials stand for obviously, but what it means to be an ideal "girlfriend" - even if only for a short time - is so personal.  I see "ISO GFE," and "____ provides the ultimate GFE," a lot so I'm curious to know what "GFE" means to other providers and patrons. Is it more atmospheric or mechanical?  
   
 To me, it means being genuine and warm and giving. Being someone that makes the other person (or people) feel comfortable and relaxed.  What about you?  
   
 To be clear, I don't think there's a right answer. I'm just curious and interested in starting a conversation. :)
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If this definition is warped, then... me too!  Perfect description.  

GFE, to me, means that both people become willing to get vulnerable in some way.

Wow! Yes! Inspired! Thank you for such a thoughtful and in-depth response. I'm just starting out, but what you described is exactly what I aspire to. And I totally agree with Siren. There is a level of vulnerability in this biz because even in a shorter session (and this might sound crunchy granola) what we're really doing is connecting.

I'm impressed that you're willing - and indeed have found it necessary - to meet with a provider multiple times in order to find this elusive connection. but I'm curious: do you ever get an impression from one date, or even the first hour, that a provider might become this for you? If so, what tips you off? Or does it really require multiple meetings to know for sure?
(let me know if you would rather conduct this conversation in PM)

My ATF, now retired, was a K-girl at an AMP. I lost track of how many times I saw her over a few years. 40? 40+?  

The "non-GFE" refers to the standard AMP menu which is, well, non-GFE (CBJ, FS). The "GFE" refers to how I felt when I was with her. An indescribable feeling of comfort, security, pleasure ... Somehow, she could read my mind. I do miss her.

FWIW, there is also a K-girl I've seen several (but fewer than 10) times that is my favorite GFE non-GFE. Her menu is GFE (BBBJNQNS, MSOG, etc.) and it is always a fun time, but it is not a well-connected GFE time.  

non-GFE GFE and GFE non-GFE. Confused? Not me!

Posted By: hellogracekay
I know what the initials stand for obviously, but what it means to be an ideal "girlfriend" - even if only for a short time - is so personal.  I see "ISO GFE," and "____ provides the ultimate GFE," a lot so I'm curious to know what "GFE" means to other providers and patrons. Is it more atmospheric or mechanical?  
   
 To me, it means being genuine and warm and giving. Being someone that makes the other person (or people) feel comfortable and relaxed.  What about you?  
   
 To be clear, I don't think there's a right answer. I'm just curious and interested in starting a conversation. :)

Posted By: impposter

   
The "GFE" refers to how I felt when I was with her. An indescribable feeling of comfort, security, pleasure ... Somehow, she could read my mind. I do miss her.  
   
This for me, is what its about. Simples.

Nice words Impposter :)

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For few very special  gentlemen which are browsing this site  - an idea of paid sex services is just ugly and criminal and not very erotic or fun to know that she doing it because she needs money...True nobel gentlemen would seek GF.

Those who feel that way  and want to have fun with a woman (and not a pro sex worker which counts her time on every hour ) - those nobel and earth down gentlemen do have enough self respect to seek a girl friend  and appreciate her time:) Not to pay for abbreviated services.. but have intimacy and be able to relax
to laugh, feel compassion, feel happiness,  and share , share by giving and receiving  
 
  Feel her readiness to accept him as he is with all his imperfections  and insecurities.
.with all his weird ( at times) feel of humor and so special interests  he has - yet be loved, be satisfied and intimately connected  NOT for money- but because we like each other and have soon deep intimate and human connection..
 it is ultimate girl friend ...
 That is dream of men, and meet such woman is very hard and in real life,( with all those special skills of and openness behind close doors )
Such woman is one a life time:)  
So basically - he does not pays for money for that at all.
 He just appreciates her time
As well - for my date style- there be not any Verify him and safe offices johns data base where I be looking his information and he would know - I never will enter any of info I learning about him in those internet date johns database.
That I do deliver  as ultimate GF and BF  
Thank you for reading

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...That date with the woman you've been fantasizing about in your office...and finally you have her....full of lust, passion and comfort.....
Passionately,
Frederica

To be warm, accepting, and giving. Being able to not only hold a conversation, but also be completely in tune with your client's interests, person, and wishes while being yourself; I'm terrible at acting, and couldn't imagine pretending to be anyone else but me during an appointment. GFE ultimately means a connection between you and someone else, and I seriously view some of my regulars as more or less commited relationships, although many would view them as simple business transactions.

It means different things to everyone.  Some guys have a checklist of activities that are required.  

If someone says "provides the ultimate GFE" they could be saying the woman provides BBFS.  

If a girl says it in an ad it means the same thing that "ultra fresh" means on toothpaste.  

Personally, I always defined it as "she makes me feel like she'd do me for free if we met under different circumstances."  But I wouldn't use it to describe anyone,  because they would see the letters and have their own meaning.

As far as I know, there is only 1 universality to it.  If a guy says a girl was GFE it means he enjoyed the date.  You can't read any more into it than that.

Sharing..and KNOW HIM  with all his imperfections and and still want him a man .
be able to let him know your vulnerable side .. opens to him and be known. ...Known him .. feel him and ant him. No matter of amount of dollars paid - you have to care about person you are with - forget yourself and do not want him out of your doors. Hold him. See human being in him - our darling men have so much pressure to be a man ..
but they are sons.. brothers, fathers, husbands .. they are in our life NOT as customers !!!  

GFE means to be more then wife of many years can gave him- yet .. yet- you never will "beat" his wife - he loves his wives because .. let pot that way - his wife loves his way of flat jokes and she knows how vulnerable he is and how NON perfect he is - yet .. yet  yet - she let HIM TAKE CARE ABOUT HER - in about her .. lets say I phone  she georgette to put in her purse - he would take it and will out it in her purse .. he would NOT ASK HER - CAN I ? MAY I ?
GF is not a wife - but on the way to be a wife . so GFE is to be a woman he wants to marry and spend rest of the life with . What is takes ? Just let HIM BE A MAN  
So many women an especially american women - do all THEMSELVES - let HIM take care about you... even for few hours .. even few times a year ..once a month .. 3 - 6 month i the year . be his NOT GFE - it still makes him distant and not to be himself totally - be his dream wife. That is GFE  
It is how I think... yet what is dream wife ?? In my European head it is quite different then many ay think..
yet I am meeting so amazing men  here on TER.  
And I live for that - for being known . They  say - I have been advised - the less you say - then more desirable you are - Nope - i do not want to be desired for wrong reasons . I am GFE and that means he knows me and I know him - at lis we live this fantasy .
Is not all our lives are fantasies ..

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