But condenses the conventional wisdom with his usual dumb dumb aplomb
1- OF COURSE this was a racist attack on blacks
2- BUT that doesn't matter, it is still not the equivalent to a terrorist attack by moslems
3- Why? because Islam has an extremely active and growing terrorism, partly aimed at the West and the US, with corporate aims, varying levels of organization etc. A moslem attack is part of a larger mass phenomena and real active threat. 19 Guys, acting as the point men of a far larger and more complex organization, pulled off 911... a lone gunmen on psycho active meds acting alone or with a couple buddies ain't the same.
4- But what about Fort Hood and Boston! They were lone wolfs using regular weapons or lame home mades, not organized terrorists or using WMD's. OK, half a decent point. BUT, the main issue of the Fort Hood thing was the guy had been making threats for a LONG time, and clearly should have been discharged/ had his clearance revoked, but wasn't precisely because he was Moslem... Dumby Liberal PC enabled his attack (just like 911). Its like this kid going to that church, making open racist threats and the church inviting him to be a member, and then being surprised later by his attack. Boston? OK, getting warmer. Boston was horrific on its own, but reacted to even more because of rhetorical ties to a bigger threat it was ONLY rhetorically related to. Sure, the Tsarenevs weren't Al Q or ISIS or connected to any organization, they just reminded everyone of 911 etc. BUT, they did raise the valid question of how many moslem lone wolves are there.
5- and so we come to the real point of why Charleston IS NOT comparable to 911, or even Boston. Yes Yes, it happened in a state with Confederate roots... but come on. If this was 1870, or even 1965, trying to tie him to some bigger conspiracy would make some sense. But seriously, there is NOT some big White Supremicist, KKK, Confederate irredentist threat to blacks out there. There just isn't. Most hate crimes are actually by blacks on whites, as well as most interracial violence period. The Confederacy and the Klan and all that are a dead letter and no active threat, and people these days who try to "pass" are whites passing as black or Lationo... nobody wants to pass as White anymore. Islam is a real and growing problem. Sure, the Confederate stars and bars on the state house could be an irritating or hateful symbol to many, but it STILL is not the same as an ISIS flag, no real threat.
Police are searching for a gunman who opened fire Wednesday night at a historic African American church in downtown Charleston, S.C. Charleston officials said 9 people were killed and others injured.
“I do believe this is a hate crime,” the police chief said at a late night briefing, without explaining the basis for his conclusion. He said as far as he knew there was only a single gunman.
“This is the most unspeakable and heartbreaking tragedy,” said Charleston Mayor Joseph Riley. “People in prayer, coming together, praying and worshiping God, to have an awful person come in and shoot them is inexplicable, obviously the most intolerable and unbelievable act possible.”
The “message is there was one hateful person who did this dastardly deed,” the mayor said at a late night meeting.
Police said there were survivors but did not say how many or what condition they were in.
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Doc's only observation - As crazy as things have been in the recent past with Ferguson and Baltimore, this is going to kick it up to a whole other level. There is no way this ends well for anyone
I just gave Hadji an earful for laughing at the misfortune of others. just because I agree with your underlying premise, doesn't mean I give you a pass for mocking people in a time of grief. Your post was even more insensitive than Hadji's as people are dead, which is no laughing matter. IOW don't be a dick, show some fucking compassion for the innocent dead
You couldn't have possibly cared about these Christians when they were alive. Now since they are dead you all of a sudden feel the desire to show compassion?
That's some backward shit there
Gee, why? He could have joined the State Governor and NRA card holder with A++++ Ms. Namritha Randhwa to promote his Stand Your Ground, Guns in college campuses and Guns everywhere agenda.
So they take away their benefits, take away their voting rights and then go to their churches, one last free and peaceful place (not any more) and shoot them to death.
So a take away from this is:
1. Priests giving sermon with an AK47 and 300 rounds magazine
2. School teachers in class rooms with an AK47 and 300 round magazine
3. Students in colleges with hand guns and ammo.
The country will outsmart the BOKO HARAM country.
Does anyone think that things are going to change ? Don't hold your breath.
.......asswipes like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson get involved. I suspect the people of Charleston will NOT allow those two misfits to come into Charleston and stir up trouble.
“I do believe this is a hate crime,” the police chief said at a late night briefing, without explaining the basis for his conclusion. He said as far as he knew there was only a single gunman.
“This is the most unspeakable and heartbreaking tragedy,” said Charleston Mayor Joseph Riley. “People in prayer, coming together, praying and worshiping God, to have an awful person come in and shoot them is inexplicable, obviously the most intolerable and unbelievable act possible.”
The “message is there was one hateful person who did this dastardly deed,” the mayor said at a late night meeting.
Police said there were survivors but did not say how many or what condition they were in.
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Doc's only observation - As crazy as things have been in the recent past with Ferguson and Baltimore, this is going to kick it up to a whole other level. There is no way this ends well for anyone.
Those two idiots need to stay out. Sharpton more than Jackson imo.
Sharpton is a hate and fear monger extraordinaire. And a lying snake to boot.
No need for him anywhere near the place. Let the decent, peace loving people in to restore hope and much needed stability.
Mr. "Gas on the Fire" needs to take a hike.
“I do believe this is a hate crime,” the police chief said at a late night briefing, without explaining the basis for his conclusion. He said as far as he knew there was only a single gunman.
“This is the most unspeakable and heartbreaking tragedy,” said Charleston Mayor Joseph Riley. “People in prayer, coming together, praying and worshiping God, to have an awful person come in and shoot them is inexplicable, obviously the most intolerable and unbelievable act possible.”
The “message is there was one hateful person who did this dastardly deed,” the mayor said at a late night meeting.
Police said there were survivors but did not say how many or what condition they were in.
Link to complete article below
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Doc's only observation - As crazy as things have been in the recent past with Ferguson and Baltimore, this is going to kick it up to a whole other level. There is no way this ends well for anyone.
Do you think Sharpton and Jesse Jackson really give a rats ass about the causes of minorities and the poor? Shame on you if you think this to be case. They are both IMHO professional shake down artists who have made a pretty mint($$$$) shaking down Corporate America.
“I do believe this is a hate crime,” the police chief said at a late night briefing, without explaining the basis for his conclusion. He said as far as he knew there was only a single gunman.
“This is the most unspeakable and heartbreaking tragedy,” said Charleston Mayor Joseph Riley. “People in prayer, coming together, praying and worshiping God, to have an awful person come in and shoot them is inexplicable, obviously the most intolerable and unbelievable act possible.”
The “message is there was one hateful person who did this dastardly deed,” the mayor said at a late night meeting.
Police said there were survivors but did not say how many or what condition they were in.
Link to complete article below
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Doc's only observation - As crazy as things have been in the recent past with Ferguson and Baltimore, this is going to kick it up to a whole other level. There is no way this ends well for anyone.
...as of now NO ONE knows this individual's motive.
But I would have sincerely preferred an epic gaff from a Presidential candidate rather than a murderous atrocity.
Thanks to the excellent work of many good cops.
I wonder what a backstabbing cop hater has to say about that?
You're welcome
Who gives a fk if the guy "hated" them or not? What possible relevance does that have?
So somebody that murders that DOESNT hate the victim gets less of a sentence?
Give the guy the max sentence. I could care less what his thoughts were about those innocent victims and the law should care less as well.
If I punched Hadji in the face, would he go crying to LE that I did so out of "hate" for his race, or just because he's a douche bag? Should the punishment for killing a black person if the perp is white, or a white person if the perp is black, really be any different. It's like saying one life is more important than another when the whole goal is "supposed" to be equal treatment under the law.
IMHO As long as there is no doubt that the person they arrested is guilty, either lock him up and throw the key away, or better yet, put one right between his eyes and be done with it. That is of course as long as there is no doubt about his guilt and I don't think that is an issue in this case.
None to the victim or victims. However, a hate crime usually has the intent and effect of instilling fear in the racial, religious, cultural, etc., communities of that or those members.
let him spend a lifetime taking it hard up the ass in a shit-hole of a prison. He's young - lots of good mileage left.
Obama is already politicizing it.
He just cant help himself. He couldn't just say he was sad for the victims...couldn't wait for all the facts...just went full speed ahead today on gun control.
What a POS we have as a president.
That it caused him to cancel a fund raiser.
Thank you
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Since one of your race baiting followers exposed his hate.
What do all of you clowns do on here?
Just find every stupid reason to blame something else.
Why a sorry bunch of losers!
Thank you
And I’m baffled as to why Mr. Obama and Hillary even mentioned guns in their public statements. As best I can tell, the guy just walked into a church with a .45 given to him by his parents and started shooting. He did not use an assault weapon; there is no public carry issue; and maybe not even an illegal sale issue.
If you label every premeditated shooting by a deranged evil person a gun control issue, you muddy the water as to the areas where gun control makes a difference – i.e, the use of assault weapons/ high capacity mags or gun violence arising from public carry.
While you are incorrect that Mr. Obama by his one sentence (unless you are talking about some other statement I have not heard) attempted to “politicize “the tragedy, there was no reason to mention guns at all in his speech
because you are absolutely correct, at least the part where you say that this is NOT a gun control issue. Even the toughest gun laws, short of banning all firearms period, (a logistical impossibility in a country with hundreds of millions of guns) would have done anything to have stopped this tragedy.
To even bring up the subject shows how little he knows on the subject, or what a political animal he is, ever the opportunist just like RRO has claimed
The death penalty is much more appropriate in matters such as these. If anything America is becoming much more of a Christian nation, due to liberal policies that are against the death penalty.
Back to my question Why do Americans love to sentence people to sexual assault? Is it some kind of submissive sexual fantasy that people get off on because the state has authority over your life, and they like seeing their master satisfied?
Any time a rape joke is told on an entertainment medium, it's followed by laughter and applause. I can only assume if people clap and laugh at rape jokes, that they condone rape.
A guy who kills nine people in a church because he hates their race deserves hell. Since I don't believe in christianity and its childish fantasy of hell in an afterlife, I wish upon that bastard a real hell in the most feasible way.
I could empathize, if you knew one of the victims personally. I still wouldn't suggest that your anger is healthy. Why couldn't you op for a simple sentence of death?
Would you feel comfortable carrying out the punishment you are in favor of
Another day in Good Old US of A.
Until the society is willing to face some hard truth, such atrocities will continue. You will hear howling for the legendary 90 minute news cycles and it will all die down as usual.
When those elementary school kids got shot, I surely thought, our society cannot be as callous but I was proven wrong, nothing happened
A sick evil person went bongos and did a terrible thing.
That is about all one can say.
There is no indication anyone else was involved. Unlike a massacre such as the one in Paris, no one will try to excuse it
There will be universal condemnation, except for a few statistically insignificant malcontents and nuts.
“I do believe this is a hate crime,” the police chief said at a late night briefing, without explaining the basis for his conclusion. He said as far as he knew there was only a single gunman.
“This is the most unspeakable and heartbreaking tragedy,” said Charleston Mayor Joseph Riley. “People in prayer, coming together, praying and worshiping God, to have an awful person come in and shoot them is inexplicable, obviously the most intolerable and unbelievable act possible.”
The “message is there was one hateful person who did this dastardly deed,” the mayor said at a late night meeting.
Police said there were survivors but did not say how many or what condition they were in.
Link to complete article below
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Doc's only observation - As crazy as things have been in the recent past with Ferguson and Baltimore, this is going to kick it up to a whole other level. There is no way this ends well for anyone.
He did(allegedly) kill people in a Christian church.
“I do believe this is a hate crime,” the police chief said at a late night briefing, without explaining the basis for his conclusion. He said as far as he knew there was only a single gunman.
“This is the most unspeakable and heartbreaking tragedy,” said Charleston Mayor Joseph Riley. “People in prayer, coming together, praying and worshiping God, to have an awful person come in and shoot them is inexplicable, obviously the most intolerable and unbelievable act possible.”
The “message is there was one hateful person who did this dastardly deed,” the mayor said at a late night meeting.
Police said there were survivors but did not say how many or what condition they were in.
Link to complete article below
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Doc's only observation - As crazy as things have been in the recent past with Ferguson and Baltimore, this is going to kick it up to a whole other level. There is no way this ends well for anyone.
