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Skyfyre 260 reads
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Human trafficking has always existed. It's not suddenly exploding recently. However politicians, LE and NGO industrial complex are all falling over themselves after finding an issue to exploit for publicity and public fund (i.e. taxpayer's money).

They needed something to rally around now that the War On Drug has proven to be EPIC FAIL and a total BUST.

Trafficking my arse... don't be a gullible sheeple and believe in this scam

I kinda wonder about the trafficking bill making its way through Congress. I'm all in favor of stopping human trafficking and I think it should be a priority for LE at all levels.

My concern is about the provision that equates purchase of sex from trafficking victims to trafficking itself. My fear is that LE -- and the courts -- will ASSUME that all providers are trafficking victims and add trafficking to the charges brought against anyone arrested for purchasing sex from any adult.

Any thoughts?

The question is:  Will LE use a shotgun to blast a mouse?  Odds are, no.

Just play extra safe and this law shouldn't be much of a concern.

At least in Utah. It isn't unusual for them to add money laundering or attempted money laundering on top of solicitation and NSBL to ladies busted if they at anytime bring up spending the money to the cops. It is often dropped in the plea to ensure things don't go to trial.This could be another tool to make going to court too risky for most. Never doubt the government's willingness to shoot us mice with a oversized shot gun. One of the many reasons everyone must screen everyone in this game. And it is the biggest reason to excersize your right to remain silent and STFU. Nothing you can say to the cops can help you but very well can bury you.

it will inevitably be used.  

I don't buy the argument that when government is given the power to put a gun to our heads we should "trust them" not to pull the trigger.

If you get charged with solicitation you're pretty much screwed anyway.

Solicitation may wreck marriages, careers, etc. but a federal charge of trafficking will get one time in Club Fed.   In FL we have a bill worming its way through the legislature that would land one in prison for the second offense of solicitation.  

As for the human trafficking bill, yes, sure it exists, but as with many things that our vaunted leaders try to fix, the reality is that there are already laws on the books to penalize people who engage in those activities.    Make more laws, yippee, just what we need!  Writing more bullshit legislation is easier than actually having the problems that we have.   Looking forward to another useless election cycle...

Club Fed as well as useless legislation are certainly the major issues, but on a side note I also hate to see all the pompous asses in the media, LE and the general public conflating issues and generally condemning sex workers and their customers because They're so defective, misguided and abused. Maybe it's really a way of keeping their spouses and their own impulses under control.

I don't know why everybody has to have their noses up everybody else's ass to see what they are up to, live and let live.  I have had the fortune to meet ladies who genuinely enjoy what they do for many reasons.   We are so darn good about painting everything with broad brushes, I wish it were not so.

Many states are instituting or considering instituting trafficking laws and defining them broadly for ease of application (meaning they plan to use/enforce them), and increasing penalties from misdemeanors to felonies. Maryland is a great example, as is Florida. If you think the embarassment of being posted on a website as a "john" is worse than a felony conviction....

Also, Maryland again, there is no statute of limitations for prostitution, solicitation, trafficking.... they have put it right up there with murder. Not the 1 year statute we are used to hearing about as a "general rule".

EVERY new law makes someone a criminal or eliminates the freedom to do something. It f-in matters to me; perhaps not so much in regards to any "trafficking" statute in particular, but in the general scheme of things - you bet your ass it matters to me. I am not one to surrender my freedom and rights through apathy and inaction.

It is that a goodly number of the times this law gets used, it will be against the same politicians and bigwigs that are now pushing for it.

I for one would like to see the hypocrites self-destruct and eat one another. Sigh, we already know that the Secret Service will procure "services" for themselves and others with relative impunity... certainly not the felony convictions. I'm guessing that the powerful may lose their current job, avoid the felony charges the ordinary folk are subject to... and simply move on to another "behind the scenes" position of power and influence.  

here's a fun list of federal politicians and their hypocrisy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_State

This law will be used against the commoner far more regularly than it ever will be used against the ruling class. The ruling class can afford a defense where the "commoner" can not! The elite is simply looking for another reason to marginalize, incarcerate, classify and ultimately commit a defacto depopulation.  

  Despite decades of medical evidence to the contrary the "law" still has cannabis listed as a "class 1 narcotic" simply because in its commerce the existing tax structure and machinations are innately effete. Just as "pot" can be grown anywhere in the US so too is the ubiquitous, unregulated/non taxed availability of human genitalia. If the elitist, authoritarian ruling class and their wholly corrupt Federal Reserve could do so they'd make breathing air illegal for the masses if a tax was not paid on it.    

Posted By: mrfisher
It is that a goodly number of the times this law gets used, it will be against the same politicians and bigwigs that are now pushing for it.

Skyfyre261 reads

Human trafficking has always existed. It's not suddenly exploding recently. However politicians, LE and NGO industrial complex are all falling over themselves after finding an issue to exploit for publicity and public fund (i.e. taxpayer's money).

They needed something to rally around now that the War On Drug has proven to be EPIC FAIL and a total BUST.

Trafficking my arse... don't be a gullible sheeple and believe in this scam

octovert265 reads

It's time to start electing lawmakers on a basis of their repealing of laws and on a basis of their resistance to LE lobbying. I've had enough of  "them as take to minding other people's business and talking big". They are no better than religious zealots whose way to the afterlife consists of killing infidels

When will this become the "War On Human Trafficking." Particularly, since the illegal alien or undocumented worker issue is intricately tied to it, making it a major political football.

It looks like the House is going to take up the senate bill on May 18th and pass it. From what I read, portions of it will be challenged in the courts over 1st Amendment issues. I wonder what impact this will have on TER as well as other sites

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