Politics and Religion

Re: The Right needs to stop whining
AliquippaJones 12 Reviews 202 reads
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Lefties say the govt has no business in the bedroom. I agree but they are fine with it taking too much out of our wallets,infringing on private property,or how we can't buy big gulp sodas.
 So if someone works his ass off and builds a business,or if someone goes to college and med school for 10 years and makes a 6 figure salary it's because of roads and bridges?Right, the only Steve Jobs became successful is he used roads every dayWhat about the guy who dropped out of school and makes minimum wage? He uses roads and bridges.
 You didn't answer the questions. You did drop in the racial reference,which is what you guys do when you can't think of anything else.
 

Posted By: Laffy
about "The Left is taking away our freedom" until/unless they are for gays getting married.  
   
 None of your f-ing business.  Period.  
   
 And legalize pot.  Tomorrow.  You cannot say both booze and cigs should be legal but not pot......especially when Pot has beneficial medical properties.  
   
 And it was the Right's hero, Bush, who put in spying on Americans and the ENTIRE Right said, "I don't care if the government spies on me since I have nothing to hide."  
   
 I didn't see ONE SINGLE WORD of protest from ANYBODY on the Right on that issue while he was Prez.  
   
 Not one.  
   
 And people like Hannity said that if anyone was against it, they were guilty of treason and should be shot.  They only started screaming HITLER on that issue 5 seconds after the black dude was sworn in and acted like they didn't cheer-lead that policy for years.  
   
 And legalize prostitution.  Tomorrow.  None of your damn business.  Heck, I saw that a woman that was arrested for having "too many" sex toys.  
   
 Probably my favorite is when Santorumm was running for Prez and he'd preach about "getting the government out of our lives" and "loving FREEDOM and the CONSTITUTION" and not 30 seconds later.....literally.....say he wanted to ban porn.  
   
 And the entire crowd CHEERED.  
   
 Not only that, none of the other candidates ripped him for it.  Bachmann actually agreed.  
   
 And quit being such a stupid sheep over the "You didn't build that" quote.  
   
 It sure is odd you Righties always wet yourselves with, "Liberals are Satan for always taking things out of context" when you're even worse.  
   
 http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/you-didnt-build-that-uncut-and-unedited/  
   
 He clearly talked about roads and bridges that businesses need to be successful.  And the internet.  How much research is done by universities that businesses use?  
   
 And he even mentioned "individual initiative."  
   
 Thanks for proving you've got that virus too.

which one is preferable--to grow the power and influence of government or protect the rights and economic liberty of the individual?
 Which is better---government dependence or self dependence?
Notice whenever Obama speaks it's always in the collective,words like we,us together,community,the group. He disparages what the individual achieves on his own. Remember his despicable speech where he said if you're successful you didn't do it by yourself,if you have a business you didn't build that? What a jerk.
Leftists like him hate and fear what the individual can do because they prefer them to dependent on government.
Last question---do you realize the more the government grows the more the freedom of the individual shrinks?

The controlling corporate oligarchy and their banks entirely own and control both parties. The contrasting political ethos's have been manipulated and orchestrated to keep John Q Citizen suspicious and hateful of his very neighbor. With Conservatives its done through authoritarianism, prohibition, intolerance and nostalgia. With Liberals it done through regulation, subjugation, political correctness and 'the greater good'. Either way the "citizen" is being herded/brainwashed into lifelong fiscal slavery far removed from "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".        

Posted By: AliquippaJones

 Notice whenever Obama speaks it's always in the collective,words like we,us together,community,the group. He disparages what the individual achieves on his own. Remember his despicable speech where he said if you're successful you didn't do it by yourself,if you have a business you didn't build that? What a jerk.  
 Leftists like him hate and fear what the individual can do because they prefer them to dependent on government.  
 

Do all righties, like you, think in simplistic black or white terms. Yes, I'm an individual. However, when I became married, my wife and I became a we. We started balancing between what was the good or desire of one or the other of us, and what was the best for both of us. Because there were time when one or the other laid their needs aside, for the moment, we were able to do and attain more than what we could have as individuals. At least that is how I experienced it. When we had children, we were no longer a married couple, but a family. Then the balancing, I previously mentioned became even more complicated. As my membership into larger circles of society increases, my I-ness gets a bit deluted in all the we-ness. A good example was when I got drafted into the armed services. There was a lot of I-ness in the effort I put into my service, but I was draft because I was a part of "We the people." All societies struggle with the tension of I-ness and we-ness. Having a bunch of I's doing just as they please leads to chaos, and having too strong of we-ness can lead to oppressive governments, and possible disasters caused by rampant nationalism run amok. There's some place between black and white, and we as a society are trying to strike the right balance. Too much I-ness is just narcissism, which were are very susceptible to, which is why so many on the right do not truly have an accurate view on what American Exceptionalism means, let alone where the concept came from.  ;)

That's the debate---getting the balance right between the person and the state. Take a horizontal line.On the right tip you have anarchy. Keep moving left you'd have libertarians,then Tea Party conservatives,establishment Republicans,moderates in the center,liberals,socialists,and all the way at other end there is totalitarianism---a behemoth,all powerful centralized state.
  I'm on the right side of the line because I believe the state exists to serve the individual,not the other way around.When the left wants to demonize something they put Big in front of it--Big Business,Big Tobacco,etc. I worry about Big government. And I don't want government subsidizing business or corporate welfare That's a perversion of capitalism.

Posted By: mattradd
Do all righties, like you, think in simplistic black or white terms. Yes, I'm an individual. However, when I became married, my wife and I became a we. We started balancing between what was the good or desire of one or the other of us, and what was the best for both of us. Because there were time when one or the other laid their needs aside, for the moment, we were able to do and attain more than what we could have as individuals. At least that is how I experienced it. When we had children, we were no longer a married couple, but a family. Then the balancing, I previously mentioned became even more complicated. As my membership into larger circles of society increases, my I-ness gets a bit deluted in all the we-ness. A good example was when I got drafted into the armed services. There was a lot of I-ness in the effort I put into my service, but I was draft because I was a part of "We the people." All societies struggle with the tension of I-ness and we-ness. Having a bunch of I's doing just as they please leads to chaos, and having too strong of we-ness can lead to oppressive governments, and possible disasters caused by rampant nationalism run amok. There's some place between black and white, and we as a society are trying to strike the right balance. Too much I-ness is just narcissism, which were are very susceptible to, which is why so many on the right do not truly have an accurate view on what American Exceptionalism means, let alone where the concept came from.  ;)

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