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The senile old fart was allowed to play cops & robbers because he donated...
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... multiple vehicles, guns and stun guns to the Sheriff’s Office worth many thousands of dollars.  IOW, the Tulsa Sheriff's Dept. whored themselves out and let an unqualified old fart tag along just because he was giving them stuff.

The old fart served one year as an actual police officer - from 1964-1965, over 50 years ago!  This was about the same time as Barney Fife, and he proved to be just as capable as ol' Barn.

Group photo of the Tulsa Sheriff's Dept:

Who was working on a reverse gun buy sting. Why would any department allow a auxiliary officer to work a gun buy reverse gun buy operation? I believe the local PD was working with the FBI selling to or buying from the man who was killed  

I don't believe he intentionally shot him. PD should stop using tasers, as these tthings have happened before. Mistakenly using a firearm instead of a taser.

 
I would assume every it varies in every jurisdiction, some reserve officers are not allowed to carry firearms at all, and only handle traffic, a crowd control. Reserve officers should never be involved in actual police investigations, especially a gun buy operation. Where they are setting up an individual to take a fall

"A mentally ill woman who died after a stun gun was used on her at the Fairfax County jail in February was restrained with handcuffs behind her back, leg shackles and a mask when a sheriff’s deputy shocked her four times, incident reports obtained by The Washington Post show.

Natasha McKenna initially cooperated with deputies, placed her hands through her cell door food slot and agreed to be handcuffed, the reports show. But McKenna, whose deteriorating mental state had caused Fairfax to seek help for her, then began trying to fight her way out of the cuffs, repeatedly screaming, “You promised you wouldn’t hurt me!” the reports show."

 "Then, six members of the Sheriff’s Emergency Response Team, dressed in white full-body biohazard suits and gas masks, arrived and placed a wildly struggling 130-pound McKenna into full restraints, their reports state. But when McKenna wouldn’t bend her knees so she could be placed into a wheeled restraint chair, a lieutenant delivered four 50,000-volt shocks from the Taser, enabling the other deputies to strap her into the chair

Fairfax County Sheriff Stacey Kincaid declined to comment on the case but defended the use of a stun gun on a restrained prisoner, saying it was “a means that is often useful to ensure the safety of a person” rather than using physical force to gain compliance. She said stun guns were used “occasionally” on prisoners who are already restrained."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fairfax-jail-inmate-who-died-was-fully-restrained-when-tasered-four-times/2015/04/11/ede0957c-decd-11e4-be40-566e2653afe5_story.html?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_1_na

 
Google, Bing or Baidu :      Fairfax jail inmate in Taser death was shackled

Posted By: JohnyComeAlready
Who was working on a reverse gun buy sting. Why would any department allow a auxiliary officer to work a gun buy reverse gun buy operation? I believe the local PD was working with the FBI selling to or buying from the man who was killed  
   
 I don't believe he intentionally shot him. PD should stop using tasers, as these tthings have happened before. Mistakenly using a firearm instead of a taser.  
   
   
 I would assume every it varies in every jurisdiction, some reserve officers are not allowed to carry firearms at all, and only handle traffic, a crowd control. Reserve officers should never be involved in actual police investigations, especially a gun buy operation. Where they are setting up an individual to take a fall.  
   
   
 

Unlike the use of lethal force, tasers are designed to be less than lethal.  

 
The left still complain about legal firearms, except when the police use them... Then it's racism.

...meant to pull out his Taser but shot the guy instead.  The guy was already on the ground, in control by other officers.  The old fart said: "I shot him...I'm sorry."  Great, thanks for the apology.

The shooting victim said: "He shot me! He shot me, man. Oh, my god. I’m losing my breath!"  Another compassionate POS said: "Fuck your breath!  Shut the fuck up!

As the victim was being held down by his neck and head, another deputy blamed the victim for getting shot, saying: "You shouldn't have fucking ran."

Then they let him die of course.  Later the cops claimed they didn't know he had been shot even though the old fart immediately said he had shot the victim.  In that sense, by letting him bleed out, it WAS an execution.

That the cops were the ones who initiated the sale/purchase of an illegal firearm.  The cops were doing your bidding.

That's why, the "why" these things happen in the first place is important to the final results.

Posted By: BigPapasan
...meant to pull out his Taser but shot the guy instead.  The guy was already on the ground, in control by other officers.  The old fart said: "I shot him...I'm sorry."  Great, thanks for the apology.

The shooting victim said: "He shot me! He shot me, man. Oh, my god. I’m losing my breath!"  Another compassionate POS said: "Fuck your breath!  Shut the fuck up!

As the victim was being held down by his neck and head, another deputy blamed the victim for getting shot, saying: "You shouldn't have fucking ran."

Then they let him die of course.  Later the cops claimed they didn't know he had been shot even though the old fart immediately said he had shot the victim.  In that sense, by letting him bleed out, it WAS an execution.

There's not a Judge in Tulsa  who would find the  old senile guy guilty of 2nd degree manslaughter, even with video, when his only guilt was weapon identity error.  

  I blame supervisors  who allowed an old senile guy to carry  lethal weapons, while masquerading  as  a young crime fighter, and participating first hand with criminal heat in the streets.  
 

Posted By: BigPapasan
...meant to pull out his Taser but shot the guy instead.  The guy was already on the ground, in control by other officers.  The old fart said: "I shot him...I'm sorry."  Great, thanks for the apology.

The shooting victim said: "He shot me! He shot me, man. Oh, my god. I’m losing my breath!"  Another compassionate POS said: "Fuck your breath!  Shut the fuck up!

As the victim was being held down by his neck and head, another deputy blamed the victim for getting shot, saying: "You shouldn't have fucking ran."

Then they let him die of course.  Later the cops claimed they didn't know he had been shot even though the old fart immediately said he had shot the victim.  In that sense, by letting him bleed out, it WAS an execution.

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...go to since you know as much about the law as he does.  The old geezer won't be tried by a judge because there would be a good chance that he would be convicted.  Instead he will be tried (if it even comes to that, which it won't) by a jury.  All it takes is one sympathetic holdout to hang a jury.

I wasn't considering the written law, justice, or the senile old guy's chance against a jury.  
   
    I was thinking of the unwritten law between Judges and LE, cops can do no wrong when
faced  with criminals.
   
   Has a  judge ever ruled not  guilty, when a citizen  was charged with resisting arrest and assaulting  LE, while cuffed, for sneezing ?  

 
   
   
 

Posted By: BigPapasan
...go to since you know as much about the law as he does.  The old geezer won't be tried by a judge because there would be a good chance that he would be convicted.  Instead he will be tried (if it even comes to that, which it won't) by a jury.  All it takes is one sympathetic holdout to hang a jury.

...The reason this is moving so fast is that it was recorded on video, just like the South Carolina case.  Otherwise it would have been business as usual for the cops.  Thanks to cameras and cell phones, they won't be getting away with thousands of murders like they have been for the past 100 years.

The only thing he should have had access to was a traffic cone.

The powers that be are madddd they ever gave us cell phones and cameras . Imagine if no one had recorded these incidents .  

Posted By: BigPapasan
...The reason this is moving so fast is that it was recorded on video, just like the South Carolina case.  Otherwise it would have been business as usual for the cops.  Thanks to cameras and cell phones, they won't be getting away with thousands of murders like they have been for the past 100 years.

The powers that be want people to record police activity, phones wouldn't have cameras if that were true.

True authority has nothing to lose and everything to gain... LE merely serves TPTB.

... multiple vehicles, guns and stun guns to the Sheriff’s Office worth many thousands of dollars.  IOW, the Tulsa Sheriff's Dept. whored themselves out and let an unqualified old fart tag along just because he was giving them stuff.

The old fart served one year as an actual police officer - from 1964-1965, over 50 years ago!  This was about the same time as Barney Fife, and he proved to be just as capable as ol' Barn.

Group photo of the Tulsa Sheriff's Dept:

wrps07383 reads

Years ago the racists burned down Black Wall street. The Greenwood section of Tulsa. I am not surprised to see a white cop kill the black man the way he did and pretend like he thought he was using a tazer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood_%28Tulsa%29#.22The_Black_Wall_Street.22

http://www.ebony.com/black-history/the-destruction-of-black-wall-street-405#axzz3XGDGjLcq

...who was playing at being a cop, probably because he couldn't get it up anymore.

He immediately said he was sorry so I don't think he was pretending about using a Taser.  The outrageous part of the story is how the Sheriff's Dept. closed ranks around him, recommending that no charges be filed.

GaGambler426 reads

Why all the fuss about those two cases when there are so many other cases, like this one, where the facts are hardly in jeopardy.

THIS is a case that should have made the front page news, not Ferguson where the facts simply didn't support the media's preconceived notions.

As others have already said, this Barney FIfe wanna be, NEVER should have been allowed to carry a firearm in the first place, and yes Tulsa is still a VERY racist city. I lived there for a couple of years and attended a hockey game with two friend, one black, the other Costa Rican, we were the only small island of "color" in a sea of white. Even a white buddy of mine who came to visit from Atlanta, but who grew up in Detroit remarked on his first day in Tulsa, "Damn you have a LOT of white people here"

A Costa Rican is more likely considered Black in Tulsa, the Capital  of pure white red neck crackers.

 There is  vengeful  racism to to this day, because many  Blacks and Native Americans in Tulsa supported the Union during the Civil war.
   

  For the most part, with the exception of Florida, it appears to me , race relations in the U.S. are best in the South.
   
    Take note of  the squatty undercover LE with  the flame tattoos, trying to feel big, with his knee and his weight  on the soon dead Eric Harris , shot by the senile old man !!!
  He claims he didn't hear the gun shot.    

 
 Google: Tulsa renames street dedicated to KKK member without changing street signs
       
   
 Here's another case that should have made U.S. front page headline news.  
   This incarcerated young woman with mental issues tased to death, brought tears to my eyes and made me  sick to my stomach.

 "A mentally ill woman who died after a stun gun was used on her at the Fairfax County jail in February was restrained with handcuffs behind her back, leg shackles and a mask when a sheriff’s deputy shocked her four times, incident reports obtained by The Washington Post show.

Natasha McKenna initially cooperated with deputies, placed her hands through her cell door food slot and agreed to be handcuffed, the reports show. But McKenna, whose deteriorating mental state had caused Fairfax to seek help for her, then began trying to fight her way out of the cuffs, repeatedly screaming, “You promised you wouldn’t hurt me!” the reports show.

Then, six members of the Sheriff’s Emergency Response Team, dressed in white full-body biohazard suits and gas masks, arrived and placed a wildly struggling 130-pound McKenna into full restraints, their reports state. But when McKenna wouldn’t bend her knees so she could be placed into a wheeled restraint chair, a lieutenant delivered four 50,000-volt shocks from the Taser, enabling the other deputies to strap her into the chair, the reports show.""

  I scoff when I hear our Government lecturing other countries  about their human rights abuses, when it's clear many authorities in this country have no respect or compassion for the mentally ill.

Google :      Fairfax jail inmate in Taser death was shackled  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fairfax-jail-inmate-who-died-was-fully-restrained-when-tasered-four-times/2015/04/11/ede0957c-decd-11e4-be40-566e2653afe5_story.html
   
 

Posted By: GaGambler
Why all the fuss about those two cases when there are so many other cases, like this one, where the facts are hardly in jeopardy.

THIS is a case that should have made the front page news, not Ferguson where the facts simply didn't support the media's preconceived notions.

As others have already said, this Barney FIfe wanna be, NEVER should have been allowed to carry a firearm in the first place, and yes Tulsa is still a VERY racist city. I lived there for a couple of years and attended a hockey game with two friend, one black, the other Costa Rican, we were the only small island of "color" in a sea of white. Even a white buddy of mine who came to visit from Atlanta, but who grew up in Detroit remarked on his first day in Tulsa, "Damn you have a LOT of white people here"

GaGambler355 reads

but the three of us, one black, one brown, and one yellow, were the only ones of any other color but white that day.

and you seem to be missing my point about Jackson,  Sharpton et al. Why did they waste all that time in Ferguson, when the newspapers are full of stories when the cops guilt is almost a certainty, unlike Ferguson where the cop certainly looked to be justified in defending himself from a guy  of three hundred pounds intent on doing him harm, with no one else to turn to besides his firearm?

...wouldn't be many black or Latino fans.  You won't find many minority fans at a croquet or lawn bowling math either (if you find any fans at all).

I still remember Willie O'Ree caused quite a stir when he played for the L.A. Blades in the mid-'60s.

GaGambler349 reads

It was actually half the fun, but we had no idea that we would be the "only" non whites there.

OTOH the WNBA got a franchise there and although I never attended a game, nor would I admit to it if I had, unless it was to go looking for MSD, but from what I understand the color make up of their fan base was totally different.

St. Croix284 reads

Most lesbians would rather go to an LPGA event. The players are better looking, if that's possible. Remember the old Dinah Shore Golf Tournament?

GaGambler342 reads

Hey I am a lesbian (trapped in a mans body of course) and I wouldn't be caught dead at a WNBA game, MSD is the only WNBA fan I can ever remember knowing, how they are still in business is beyond me.

followme266 reads

How this thread went from a cop shooting a guy to lesbos and basketball.

Thank you  
2015 = 28

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Cottonmouth437 reads

also ridiculous that nobody is talking about the career criminal selling an illegal firearm. Hypocrite  Liberals are constantly crying about easy access to firearms except now when an illegal seller caught red handed was accidentally shot while running away from yet another crime he has committed .

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