and unsupported double talk which is typical of this administration. EVERYONE has NOT saved more than $2500 in premiums.
You wish he were better at math? Come on marikod, he only graduated from ColumbiaDidn't he promise O-care would result in those savings for individuals?
per year in premiums bc of the federal premium assistance tax credit – aka the subsidies. Mr. Obama did underestimate the savings for many of those families, since lower income families have saved even more than that. I wish he was better at math.
When you factor in expanded Medicaid, the number grows much, much higher on an effective basis.
As to the non-subsidy insured, you would have to know which plan they chose, how much pre-Obamacare premiums would have risen, and then make some correction for the vastly superior benefits of an Obamacare policy. If you make this correction and calculate what private insurers would have charged for comparable benefits pre-Obamacare, EVERYONE HAS SAVED MORE THAT $2500 in premiums. We’ll save the out of pocket cost savings discussion for another time.
To answer your second question, no Mr. Obama never promised that individuals would received a $2500 rate reduction, although that in fact has happened as I have explained above.
Too bad Jack is on spring break and I can’t torture him about this. LO
and unsupported double talk which is typical of this administration. EVERYONE has NOT saved more than $2500 in premiums.
You wish he were better at math? Come on marikod, he only graduated from Columbia
About 7.7 million people who had insurance (before obamscare) and were paying at least $2500 in premiums LOST their insurance (due to obamacare) therefore they had no insurance therefore they were not paying any premium therefore they saved at least $2500.
After they got over the shock many got insurance again paying more in premiums and much, much higher deductables.
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Obama and the Dims would have it headlined in the news everyday, 365 days a year. when a /dim supporter simply makes that statement with no backup. most all sensible, logical and intelligent people ignore the 'allegation'.
It's just like before the law was passed. They'll make up and say anything.
When you factor in expanded Medicaid, the number grows much, much higher on an effective basis.
As to the non-subsidy insured, you would have to know which plan they chose, how much pre-Obamacare premiums would have risen, and then make some correction for the vastly superior benefits of an Obamacare policy. If you make this correction and calculate what private insurers would have charged for comparable benefits pre-Obamacare, EVERYONE HAS SAVED MORE THAT $2500 in premiums. We’ll save the out of pocket cost savings discussion for another time.
To answer your second question, no Mr. Obama never promised that individuals would received a $2500 rate reduction, although that in fact has happened as I have explained above.
Too bad Jack is on spring break and I can’t torture him about this. LOL
health care.gov for 2015, according to the enrollment figures released by the administration this month. The average subsidy is $263. So if you compare the market price of the insurance for 2015 with the after-subsidy amount due, we know for a act that most of these insured saved at least $2500 from the market price of the insurance.
But I didn’t “stop” there. If you add expanded Medicaid insureds to the mix, you get far more than 7.7 million savings as compared to the market price they would otherwise have to pay.
And if you want to compare to pre-Obamacare insurance premiums for comparable coverage instead of current ones, you easily conclude that everyone is saving tons of money. But since no one offered that kind of coverage pre-Obama care, it is kind of a trick question.
So far, only Followme has been smart enough to realize that whether there are “savings” all depends on the metric you are using for comparison, although he picked his own metric
And wait til they actually have to GO to the doctor for something! When they find out about the enormous deductible...
That is, if you take them at their word. As for everyone else, rates are sky rocketing. And wait til they have to use this junk insurance. That's when the real pain kicks in.
BSC Republicans should start an investigation into this abuse of power. By all means let Ted Cruzification head the investigation.
Who would have thought it? He preached and preached and lord and behold, he signs up.
As a token, he should have, for principal not sign up and show his constituents that he's for what he says...
If he didn't you'd be saying that he is lawless (like your boy 0bama). You'd be whining and complaining that Ted Cruz picks and choses which laws he wants to obey (which only 0bama is allowed to do, apparently). If he does sign up he's a hypocrite. See how that works? 
As a token, he should have, for principal not sign up and show his constituents that he's for what he says...
That's what I plan on doing. I have not signed up for ObamaCare, nor do I plan to.
...my company (one of the top 5) cut my premium almost in half when Obamacare went into effect.
You don’t have to sign up for ACA to avoid the penalty. The law only requires to have Health Insurance. There is no stipulation one has to sign up for ACA or through the healthcare gov.
Unless you don’t have health insurance you don’t pay a fine. You know this, but want to sound like HERO amongst the Wing-Nuts on here
"Under the Affordable Care Act, members of Congress and some designated congressional staffers are required to obtain health care coverage through the D.C. Health Link Small Business Market. The Office of Personnel Management's guidelines state that lawmakers and their staff receive a "government contribution" if they get health care coverage through the ACA.
But some lawmakers have declined to accept the contribution, saying they do not want to get special treatment. After the interview, a Cruz spokesperson clarified that he wouldn't take the contribution.
So if he speeds, then he's an outlaw...Really,if he didn't sign up, who would care, really now.I bet not one word would be mentioned if he didn't sign up.But the thing he's been preaching as the end all, he enrolls. So yes he's a hypocrite....now do you get it without being petty?
Don't Senators get medical ins from the Goverment?
As if the Media wouldn't care! They've just spent the last 2 days looking for anything and everything to call him out on. If he didn't sign up, I can guarantee you that would be a major talking point the Media would use every time he mentioned 0bama's lawlessness. He is not being hypocritical at all. He is being fully complicit with the law. Yes, you can pay a penalty, but that is for not being fully complicit. Thus, as far as the Media would be concerned, he would be a hypocrit for not being fully complicit with the law of the land.
Don't Senators get medical ins from the Goverment?
Ted Cruisemissile is an educated idiot. Nothing worse than an educated idiot who is all for himself.
NOTHING!!!
They knock the affordable care act, but have NO plan at all that would fix any problems with the health care coverage in the US.
it's all cloudy cause the King wasn't nor will he be clear about the facts. but seems ridiculous to kick off over 5 million people who had insurance and then give insurance to 5 million, with a subsidy, and then proclaim success. haven't seen nor heard a credible source say premiums actually decreased by an avg 2500 dollars per person as the king told us it would