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First, let me say I do generally watch Fox for my source of news as I do feel they will report on news stories ignored by the majority of the media outlets, and generally they will have guests on both sides of the issue.

But I think their success in the programming share is due to the fact that they really do not compete with CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc as Fox comes at the news from the right, while all others come at it from the left.  So for people like me there is really only one choice.

A far more interesting survey would be to put Fox up against any one of the others, or perhaps all of them one by one (ie a series of one on one competitions).  I suspect these results would be much closer.

...is comprised of uneducated, slack-jawed yokels.  They believe Fox is 'fair & balanced' because Fox tells them they are hundreds of times a day.  The Big Lie - repeat something often enough...

What is the age, race, income and where they reside and all that goes into their audience. My guess, is male over 50,white, income ??, resides in the south, and midwest. Someone here has that info, lay it out.

...viewer.  With those demographics, it's surprising that David Duke doesn't have his own show yet on Fox News.

The only phrase heard more often on Fox than "fair & balanced" is the commercial that has the video of 'followme' saying: "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!!"

MSNBC & CNN: avg. age is 60; broadcast networks: 62-64.

JohnMilton_Esq366 reads

I'll summarize cause I'll bet the Fox haters won't read the entire article in the link....

 
"......in the third quarter (2014) the network claimed the top 10 programs in the critical 25- to 54-year-old demographic — the first time that’s happened since the fourth quarter of 2011......"

The operative word is that the "the network claimed the top 10 programs in the critical 25- to 54-year-old demographic", which I mean Fox claimed to be the top 10 network. Hey, if it's true great. I've watch Fox on ocassion, it's isn't totally my cup of tea but they do some good reporting. I flip around except I won't watch Hannity...now he's a jerk.

JohnMilton_Esq546 reads

Anyone can look these up day by day but they all tell the same story.  The numbers in the link are from Nielson.  Fox is getting more viewers in general BUT also in that 25-54 demo, so the argument that it is a choice only for old white guys just does not hold up when you look at all the numbers and not just cherry pick them.  Look up any time period in the last year, the numbers are about the same on any given day.  FWIW, I don't get all my news from Fox.  I subscribe (online) to the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal.  I also read HuffPo from time to time (ok, just to get a laugh, but I do read it...  LOL).

Add fantasy news for the delusional!

They wouldn’t know truth from a lie.

In all that ranting and name calling you did not give ONE example of any bias or spinning on the part of Fox. Just another angry Liberal ranting and raving as he has been taught to do.

And as for repeating something so often that people believe it...

Hmm. Interesting concept. Let's explore that a little bit. Perhaps the Republicans should convince the black population that Democrats hate them and that all the black Democrats they see are just Uncle Toms who have sold out on their people. They should just keep repeating this and if your outlook is correct it will work. Would it not? Where did you come up with this brilliant strategy?

Posted By: BigPapasan
...is comprised of uneducated, slack-jawed yokels.  They believe Fox is 'fair & balanced' because Fox tells them they are hundreds of times a day.  The Big Lie - repeat something often enough...

followme459 reads

is typical of the backstabber he is.

However
We really should leave him alone today, because it is his big day.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=764091&boardID=12&page=1#764091

I just hope he does not post a review, we really do not need to know the details.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=764100&boardID=12&page=1#76410

bigguy30402 reads

Posted By: followme
is typical of the backstabber he is.  
   
 However  
 We really should leave him alone today, because it is his big day.  
   
 http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=764091&boardID=12&page=1#764091  
   
 I just hope he does not post a review, we really do not need to know the details.  
   
 http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=764100&boardID=12&page=1#764100  
   
   
 

It's seems if that were so easy, Republicans would have done so long ago. Afterall, isn't the Republican party the party of Lincoln?   ;)

...other Nixon aides when they were working for Nixon during his administration.  It was supposed to be, and in fact turned out to be, the propaganda arm of the Republican Party.

1) According to the article, the reason Fox is trusted more by its viewers is simply that their anchors have been with the network longer so people feel they "know" them, and trust follows.
2) More important, Fox tells its viewers exactly what they want to hear, so of course they believe it.  You could say the same thing about MSNBC.
3) As for actually being trustworthy, fact checkers know that Fox makes more factual errors than the other cable news networks combined.  It's viewers simply don't care because they like what they hear.
This is just one of a host of listing of egregious Faux News errors

Sure it  leans right . They  offset the left leaning other networks. They had a monopoly on news for decades.Fox comes along and  libs stomp their feet and have a hissy fit. The legacy networks got what they deserve-a nightly ass kicking in the ratings.
Another thing- Fox does not employ the Rev(cough) Sharpton.
A second thing-Fox has the hottest women on TV.

bigguy30435 reads

Posted By: AliquippaJones
Sure it  leans right . They  offset the left leaning other networks. They had a monopoly on news for decades.Fox comes along and  libs stomp their feet and have a hissy fit. The legacy networks got what they deserve-a nightly ass kicking in the ratings.  
 Another thing- Fox does not employ the Rev(cough) Sharpton.  
 A second thing-Fox has the hottest women on TV.
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First, let me say I do generally watch Fox for my source of news as I do feel they will report on news stories ignored by the majority of the media outlets, and generally they will have guests on both sides of the issue.

But I think their success in the programming share is due to the fact that they really do not compete with CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc as Fox comes at the news from the right, while all others come at it from the left.  So for people like me there is really only one choice.

A far more interesting survey would be to put Fox up against any one of the others, or perhaps all of them one by one (ie a series of one on one competitions).  I suspect these results would be much closer.

nuguy46428 reads

sooooo difficult to watch cnn and msnbc...the on camera people are so stupid with their remarks it makes it very easy to turn the channel.

on their demographic audience doesn’t have anything productive to do. 50% of them are ignorant and the other 50% happens to the world revolves around their version of US, religion and climate change denial

bigguy30411 reads

So when you hear a Fox Fake News supporter say fair and balance.

I just laugh in their face and this is not real news.

They cater to the white people who are insecure and racist in this country.

Also playing on their fears of this country changing are what they do with lies!

Because Media Matters isn't at all notorious for lying consistently. LOL Unnamed, anonymous Fox News insider. Just trust us. LMFAO!!!

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bigguy30495 reads

How do you even know what real news is with watching that garbage? Lol

Posted By: User1994
Because Media Matters isn't at all notorious for lying consistently. LOL Unnamed, anonymous Fox News insider. Just trust us. LMFAO!!!

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pot/kettle575 reads

and "garbage."

Obviously, you have watched FNC quite a bit in order to be so informed.  Roger Ailes thanks you for helping the impressive ratings . . . .

bigguy30412 reads

Why would I waste my time watching something fake and not real?  

It's garbage and not real news smart guy! Lol

The clips I have seen on other networks tells me everything.

They don't want to give real news but their own conservative message.

Which is garbage and lies!

Posted By: pot/kettle
and "garbage."  
   
 Obviously, you have watched FNC quite a bit in order to be so informed.  Roger Ailes thanks you for helping the impressive ratings . . . .

"When you look at the 8 outlets we tested individually, only one is clearly trusted by a majority of Americans. That's PBS, which 57% say they trust to 24% who don't."

That's why I'm confused when Mediaite reports that Fox is more trusted. Is it because of percentage of people or raw numbers. According to the linked article, more Conservatives go to one source for their news (Fox), than Liberal, who go to several sources. In this poll, it doesn't even look like many conservatives even get their news from the source "clearly trusted by a majority of Americans. That's PBS,..."

The best way to analyze this is to look at the actual poll numbers.

The actual questions that mattered asked for 4 possible responses with 4 degrees of trust ranging from “A Great Deal of Trust” to “No Trust At All”. So there were 2 levels of trust and 2 levels of distrust. This is the data that matters, not the final question, "Who do you trust the most?". The final question in the headlines is of course skewed since, for the most part, FOX stands alone.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us03092015_Umepxt98.pdf

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If you saw Chris Hayes of MSNBC on this, he also came to this reality but then skidded into the ditch (i.e. I don’t trust non-FOX networks because that’s what FOX tells me to think, LOL) but not before inadvertently admitting (in his analogy) that everyone but FOX leans Left.

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/12/chris_hayes_explains_why_fox_news_is_most_trusted/

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Enough of that, There actually is some interesting data in the poll.  

1) First, I am always leery of polls that rely on demographic distributions but then do not publish the actual demographic distribution regarding the totals (i.e. were there equal numbers of men and women, Republicans and Democratics (sic)?).  

2) Looking at the real numbers (for just the Totals) I added up the percentages of Trust vs. Distrust (see my graphic below). It turns out there’s not as big a disparity across all networks as one might have suspected. Leaving aside “Local” news for the moment (which beat everyone), all non-FOX network Totals, except MSNBC, were in the 60% to 65% Trust vs. 30% to 35% Distrust. Both FOX and MSNBC were both about the same with 50% to 55% Trust vs 40% Distrust (indentical !). Note that FOX Trust is only 5 points below CNN and NBC and FOX Distrust is only 5 points below CNN and NBC.

3) Also interesting is the spread of Democrats on CNN,NBC, ABC and CBS are all about 80% Trust to 15% Distrust, which is exactly the same spread of Republicans on FOX. MSNBC falls short with both Democrats and Republicans which reflects in their ratings

4) Republicans pretty much split (Trust vs. Distrust) on non-FOX/non-MSNBC (ranging from 50/50 to 60/40). Notice Repubs Trust is greater than Distrust.

5) Lastly, FOX’s Trust exceeds Distrust in EVERY demographic except for Democrats.


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insofar as 51% of the respondents admitted that they lack sufficient information to form an opinion as to whether serial liar Bill “Every thing I said is true” O’Reilly should be fired. That the assistant director of your poll considers O’Reilly a “journalist” also pretty much tells us about his qualifications to conduct a media trustworthiness poll.

         As with most of these popularity polls, this poll did not bother with the foundational questions needed to give the poll result any indicia of reliability – i.e., how much time have you spent watching these various channels?

      But, hey, you have convinced me that Fox is well trusted by the Amish

But, then again, you could be right, though it's not MY poll. I'm just trying to make sense out of all the conflicting information. It still would have been a good question to ask by Quinnipiac: "Which news source do you trust least?"

It's the same DAMN poll everyone in this thread THOUGHT they were discussing.

The real numbers in the poll were not nearly as kind to FOX as was the "headline" question.

I merely took the time (unlike anyone else here) to look up the source of actual poll that included the single question in discussion here. I took the time to analyze some of the incongruities and correlations of the actual data but I can see you're not interested in any of the realities of the poll

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