So let's get this straight these drunken 19 year old college kids did something really fkin insensitive and stupid?
This was your statement in your comment but Travon Martin and Mike Brown were thugs at younger ages?
When the both of them were killed at 17 and 18 years old.
All we heard from you back then was they were thugs and had a record.
I did not hear you or your buddies say they were young and stupid.
Okay so lets see these white racists got suspended and a Oklahoma U. fraternity was exposed.
They were not killed or shot by some cops because of fear and still alive.
It was a well deserved punishment and I hope they learn the world is bigger than their white redneck state!
So people do these things to feed their personal hate and insecurity.
All of the people singing that song on the bus love it!
Just stop with your bullshit Jack.
I had you right from the beginning on here with your comments!
Posted By: JackDunphy
Ok, let's all agree that what the Oklahoma U. frat boys said was disturbing, racist and idiotic. Stipulated.
But is this REALLY worthy of a national story, all over cable TV and the networks, morning, noon and night?
Drunken 19 year old college kids did something really fkin insensitive and stupid. Sounds like a dog bites man story, not the other way around.
What am I missing? They didn't physically harm anyone, didnt discriminate against anyone that I am aware and didn't break a single law.
Is it in Oklahoma Univ. best interests to punish the kids? Yep. It's even the right thing to do. But the PC media is acting like someone was literally lynched from a tree.
I am not shocked that immature, liquored up dumbasses did something offensive. I would be shocked if they didn't, actually.
And yes, the racial aspect of this case rises it above typical asshole frat behavior, I get that, but is it really a story SO big it needs to be covered 24/7 like a war, a major terror action or a fking hurricane/earthquake? C'mon.
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is apathy. The word racism/racist is used and overused everyday. In the Oklahoma frat situation it was justified, but it seems the word has lost clout to most people due to its use for the most insignificant and trivial reasons.
Just today Stephen A. Smith of ESPN was called out for "implying" that Chip Kelly (Eagles head coach) is a racist. Smith went after Kelly for trading LeSean McCoy and Jeremy Maclin, two black players, but not trading Riley Cooper a white WR. What Smith failed to mention was that Kelly also traded Nick Foles, the white QB, or that 70% of NFL players are black, so when you trade players there is an excellent chance they will be black.
I have no idea if Chip Kelly is a racist. I have no idea if Stephen A. Smith was truly implying that Chip Kelly is a racist, but you can see how the racist word is used for the most trivial reasons.
Yesterday, the daughter of Marvin Gaye said, “Right now, I feel free, free from Robin Thicke’s chains and what they tried to keep on us and the lies that were told.” Seriously, she had to use the words free and chains to describe that maybe mentally and emotionally she has been enslaved all these years because of the song "Blurred Lines"?
The interesting thing is that the most tolerant, diverse, and post racial group is supposed to be the "millennials". Maybe the media can't embarrass, shame, or in a feeble attempt change "baby boomers" views, but the daily barrage of racist allegations has done one thing to millennials, and that is make them racially apathetic. In other words, does anyone really give a shit?
Posted By: JackDunphy
Ok, let's all agree that what the Oklahoma U. frat boys said was disturbing, racist and idiotic. Stipulated.
But is this REALLY worthy of a national story, all over cable TV and the networks, morning, noon and night?
Drunken 19 year old college kids did something really fkin insensitive and stupid. Sounds like a dog bites man story, not the other way around.
What am I missing? They didn't physically harm anyone, didnt discriminate against anyone that I am aware and didn't break a single law.
Is it in Oklahoma Univ. best interests to punish the kids? Yep. It's even the right thing to do. But the PC media is acting like someone was literally lynched from a tree.
I am not shocked that immature, liquored up dumbasses did something offensive. I would be shocked if they didn't, actually.
And yes, the racial aspect of this case rises it above typical asshole frat behavior, I get that, but is it really a story SO big it needs to be covered 24/7 like a war, a major terror action or a fking hurricane/earthquake? C'mon.
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But seriously, I agree with you. The call of racist is much like the boy who called wolf too often. It can blind people to when it truly is an issue. But, many people use it because it works. It gets them what they want. So, the best way to extinguish that behavior is to not give them what they want, whether it's letting them have their own way, or us becoming defensive, etc. So, when I'm accused of behind racist or prejudice, I don't become defensive, and I do not give the person what they are demanding of me. By the same token, neither do I accuse others of racism or prejudice to get what I want.
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Fraternities are secretive organizations, and when such organizations let something slip, particularly something that reveals their basic nature or make up, it is of great interest just because of the nature and dynamic of their secretiveness. Perhaps that has something to do with the amount of press dedicated to it. I say this having not having reading anything about the story myself. 
So the answer to your question is yes, but not on that bus that day!
The Daily Show hit the nail on the head last night about these racist clowns.
Posted By: mattradd
Fraternities are secretive organizations, and when such organizations let something slip, particularly something that reveals their basic nature or make up, it is of great interest just because of the nature and dynamic of their secretiveness. Perhaps that has something to do with the amount of press dedicated to it. I say this having not having reading anything about the story myself.
the press is so focused on it. If the frat was an open, not secretive organization, and they had black members, I doubt if there'd be much press coverage. Could they be called racist if they had black members? Would they be chanting the words if there were black members? This is a chant that the membership has sung, in secrecy for years, which espouses their convictions about not allowing black members into their secret society. Now, it's been brought to light. So, you have the natural inclination towards the desire to learn of secrets that are being revealed, along with a story of blatant, boastful racism, along with the stories about people's reactions to it.
Why hide behind those questions when you already know the answers?
Just look at the racists comments on here from some of the other hobbyist.
I am sure they sleep with Asian, black and Latin providers or work with people of color.
We all know when they get behind computers or in a group together with no people of color.
Some of the time you get things like this video.
This video is not a surprised.
It's the people who act like it is a deeper reason behind it that surprise me sometimes.
Posted By: mattradd
the press is so focused on it. If the frat was an open, not secretive organization, and they had black members, I doubt if there'd be much press coverage. Could they be called racist if they had black members? Would they be chanting the words if there were black members? This is a chant that the membership has sung, in secrecy for years, which espouses their convictions about not allowing black members into their secret society. Now, it's been brought to light. So, you have the natural inclination towards the desire to learn of secrets that are being revealed, along with a story of blatant, boastful racism, along with the stories about people's reactions to it.
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So sorry I didn't say what you wanted me to say!
Posted By: mattradd
So sorry I didn't say what you wanted me to say!
Posted By: mattradd
the press is so focused on it. If the frat was an open, not secretive organization, and they had black members, I doubt if there'd be much press coverage. Could they be called racist if they had black members? Would they be chanting the words if there were black members? This is a chant that the membership has sung, in secrecy for years, which espouses their convictions about not allowing black members into their secret society. Now, it's been brought to light. So, you have the natural inclination towards the desire to learn of secrets that are being revealed, along with a story of blatant, boastful racism, along with the stories about people's reactions to it.
News is driven by ratings it is just that simple. There are always plenty of things to report on, but at the end of the day news channels are going to report on stuff that they feel will get people to tune in so that they can charge more for ads. What the frat boys said was not disturbing in least to me, as the world is not made up of saints and you always going to have people who hold views that racist, sexist, etc. I am too old and/or at the point in my life to get upset about these things. It is what it is, as life is going to move on regardless.
Posted By: JackDunphy
Ok, let's all agree that what the Oklahoma U. frat boys said was disturbing, racist and idiotic. Stipulated.
But is this REALLY worthy of a national story, all over cable TV and the networks, morning, noon and night?
Drunken 19 year old college kids did something really fkin insensitive and stupid. Sounds like a dog bites man story, not the other way around.
What am I missing? They didn't physically harm anyone, didnt discriminate against anyone that I am aware and didn't break a single law.
Is it in Oklahoma Univ. best interests to punish the kids? Yep. It's even the right thing to do. But the PC media is acting like someone was literally lynched from a tree.
I am not shocked that immature, liquored up dumbasses did something offensive. I would be shocked if they didn't, actually.
And yes, the racial aspect of this case rises it above typical asshole frat behavior, I get that, but is it really a story SO big it needs to be covered 24/7 like a war, a major terror action or a fking hurricane/earthquake? C'mon.
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