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"It doesn't really matter what he said."
JackDunphy 499 reads
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Yes, thats been my point about Barry for quite some time. His words mean nothing.  

He is constantly decieving the American public, as you well know, with his b.s. story on him "evolving" about gay marriage, just being the latest example on a very, very, very long and ever growing list.

Pinocchio would be proud. :D

I think the chances are very high that we get another Government shutdown thus crippling TSA operations at major airports around the country and Immigration/Border control activity at all our national borders and other entry points. The third shutdown could be just the charm for Republicans who were blamed for initiating Government shutdowns in 1995-1996 and in 2013. Is this not the very definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Many Republicans gambling that a new shutdown would not hurt their party

Republicans were hammered over the 1995-96 government shutdowns, losing House seats in the next election and boosting President Clinton's sagging approval ratings.
They shot themselves in the foot again with the 16-day government shutdown in 2013 over Obamacare, although their record-low public approval ratings rallied in time to dominate the 2014 midterm election.

Now it appears the party is heading toward another budget-related standoff, this time over immigration policy and the Homeland Security Department, which is scheduled to run out of funding Saturday.

Some Republican stalwarts fear another government shutdown, even a partial one, could deliver a deep political wound to the party.

It irritates the hell out of me," Tom Ridge, the first Homeland Security secretary and a former two-term Pennsylvania governor, said in an interview. "I think it is political folly. I think it is bad policy. I think the political repercussions could be very severe. And on top of that, the men and women of Homeland Security deserve better."

But buoyed by a Texas federal judge's order last week to temporarily halt the president's immigration plan, other Republicans are betting heavily that this time things will end differently for the party.

They predict Democrats will shoulder the blame if the Homeland Security Department runs out of money and see no reason to drop their demand that renewed funding include amendments blocking President Obama from implementing his program to defer deportation for millions of immigrants in the country illegally.

We should be messaging to the American people that this president and the Senate Democrats are putting 5 million illegals ahead of the security of the United States," Rep. Raul R. Labrador (R-Idaho) said in a recent discussion with fellow House conservatives. "We should be talking about nothing else."

House conservatives say they are prepared to do whatever it takes to stop what they describe as the latest example of Obama's executive overreach. "Is it an uncomfortable position to be in to have to choose between border security and the Constitution? Absolutely," said Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.).

House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) said this month he was "certainly" prepared to see a lapse in funding for the Homeland Security Department if the Senate could not pass the House-approved bill.

But it's politically problematic for Republicans to disrupt operations for a department created after the Sept. 11 attacks to fight domestic terrorism, protect borders and monitor airports, particularly at a time when Americans are increasingly concerned about Islamic State and other terrorist groups.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-gop-shutdown-politics-20150223-story.htm

People that just hate the goverment ( see scr5540) and will want to make a statement. You know, total malcontents that just hate life, again see scr5540.

Timbow386 reads

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Out of the nearly 230,000 DHS employees, 200,000 are considered essential — so security checkpoints in the 450 airports across the U.S. will operate as normal........

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/02/23/388338500/for-tsa-officers-congress-inaction-on-funding-could-hit-home

Posted By: HONDA
I think the chances are very high that we get another Government shutdown thus crippling TSA operations at major airports around the country and Immigration/Border control activity at all our national borders and other entry points. The third shutdown could be just the charm for Republicans who were blamed for initiating Government shutdowns in 1995-1996 and in 2013. Is this not the very definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.  
   
Many Republicans gambling that a new shutdown would not hurt their party  
   
 Republicans were hammered over the 1995-96 government shutdowns, losing House seats in the next election and boosting President Clinton's sagging approval ratings.  
 They shot themselves in the foot again with the 16-day government shutdown in 2013 over Obamacare, although their record-low public approval ratings rallied in time to dominate the 2014 midterm election.  
   
 Now it appears the party is heading toward another budget-related standoff, this time over immigration policy and the Homeland Security Department, which is scheduled to run out of funding Saturday.  
   
 Some Republican stalwarts fear another government shutdown, even a partial one, could deliver a deep political wound to the party.  
   
 It irritates the hell out of me," Tom Ridge, the first Homeland Security secretary and a former two-term Pennsylvania governor, said in an interview. "I think it is political folly. I think it is bad policy. I think the political repercussions could be very severe. And on top of that, the men and women of Homeland Security deserve better."  
   
 But buoyed by a Texas federal judge's order last week to temporarily halt the president's immigration plan, other Republicans are betting heavily that this time things will end differently for the party.  
   
 They predict Democrats will shoulder the blame if the Homeland Security Department runs out of money and see no reason to drop their demand that renewed funding include amendments blocking President Obama from implementing his program to defer deportation for millions of immigrants in the country illegally.  
   
 We should be messaging to the American people that this president and the Senate Democrats are putting 5 million illegals ahead of the security of the United States," Rep. Raul R. Labrador (R-Idaho) said in a recent discussion with fellow House conservatives. "We should be talking about nothing else."  
   
 House conservatives say they are prepared to do whatever it takes to stop what they describe as the latest example of Obama's executive overreach. "Is it an uncomfortable position to be in to have to choose between border security and the Constitution? Absolutely," said Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.).  
   
 House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) said this month he was "certainly" prepared to see a lapse in funding for the Homeland Security Department if the Senate could not pass the House-approved bill.  
   
 But it's politically problematic for Republicans to disrupt operations for a department created after the Sept. 11 attacks to fight domestic terrorism, protect borders and monitor airports, particularly at a time when Americans are increasingly concerned about Islamic State and other terrorist groups.
   
 http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-gop-shutdown-politics-20150223-story.html  
   
   
 

GaGambler373 reads

and there is nothing "so called" about their status, that's why they are still going to go to work and that's why the "so called" shut down is just that, a shut down in name only.

.......undue stresses on their monthly finances. All this to make a point about Obama's executive action on Immigration. All this will do is cement the negative image of the Republicans within the Hispanic community. I'm certainly not complaining.........lo

Government workers should plan accordingly.

Plenty of private sector jobs available.......lol

Posted By: HONDA
.......undue stresses on their monthly finances. All this to make a point about Obama's executive action on Immigration. All this will do is cement the negative image of the Republicans within the Hispanic community. I'm certainly not complaining.........lol  
   
 

had the government not shutdown in 2013, the R's would have won an even MORE lopsided historical landslide than their biggest congressional majority since 1928? LO

.........the electoral map will be very different in 2016. Senate Republican leader McConnell isn't having an easy time running the Senate, with the Senate minority following his roadmap for legislative gridlock....lol

So don't come crying to me your peeps that don't care the mid terms.  

That's like you saying you lost the basketball game because your best players didn't show up. Well get them off their ass son! Excuses are like asses, everyone has one. LOL

And Barry isn't on the ticket in 2016, you may have learned, and with Mari dogging Hillary for lying about her combat experiences while deplaning, do you think she really has a shot? LOL

.....so you are sorely mistaken if you think Republicans won by an overwhelming majority. Ask McConnel how that majority is helping him in the Senate right now. Yes Democrats indeed stayed home because they had nothing to be happy about, stagnant wages, lousy economy etc.

Posted By: JackDunphy
So don't come crying to me your peeps that don't care the mid terms.  
   
 That's like you saying you lost the basketball game because your best players didn't show up. Well get them off their ass son! Excuses are like asses, everyone has one. LOL  
   
 And Barry isn't on the ticket in 2016, you may have learned, and with Mari dogging Hillary for lying about her combat experiences while deplaning, do you think she really has a shot? LOL

It will be hard to deceive enough uninformed voters that this is the fault of Republicans. Easier to fool the Republicans (again) that the Media still has enough credibility be able to deceive the American people again.

followme303 reads

this would not be an issue  

 

You're Welcome
2016 = GOP WH, Senate and House

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followme368 reads

or he would not have put a hold on it.

So it is just a matter of time .

 
You're Welcome
2016 = GOP WH, House and Senate

RaymondDonovan399 reads

Dam what took him so long, it'll get overturned.

I know its hard keeping track of all his lies but do your best Matt! :)

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As in any legal matter, one usually goes with the counsel given. I'm quite willing to believe the counsel, at the time, told him he didn't have the authority. I guess his last counsel suggests otherwise. I guess that's why those lawyers get paid the big bucks!   ;)

Yes, thats been my point about Barry for quite some time. His words mean nothing.  

He is constantly decieving the American public, as you well know, with his b.s. story on him "evolving" about gay marriage, just being the latest example on a very, very, very long and ever growing list.

Pinocchio would be proud. :D

RaymondDonovan272 reads

But no one is going to understand that. Bottom line, shut down the DHL and both Houses, controled by Republicans will get the blamed, big time. And they will feel it in 2016.
Again, you can thank me later.

they can’t win. Expecting anyone of them to understand the fundamentals of Game Theory would be silly since they don’t believe in STEM!

nuguy46397 reads

they can accept the Repub budget proposal that funds everything but the illegal actions Obama has taken.  Dems are willing to play the party of NO??

followme430 reads

Shut down DHS  
   
Clearly the Dems do not care about the safety and well being of the American people and the country itself.  
   
Why can't the Dems have the professionalism, courage integrity and honor to work with and cooperate with in good faith the Republicans who want nothing but the best for the country and the people.  
   
It appears that the, obama, immigration executive order will be declared illegal anyway, so why must the Dems. cause so much pain and suffering of the American people.  
   
Let's hope the Dems realize the damage they are about to do and for once do the right thing and vote for and  fund DHS as the bill is.  
   
2016 = GOP WH, Senate and House

A famous Jew once said, "don't throw your pearls at swine". It is folly to expect Republicans to be capable of logic and reason. Yes, it is insanity, but they are certifiable.

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