sticking with Pros. We all know what the cost factors are living in the so-called "America's Finest City" and we also know that because of these costs, getting inexpensive (or dare I wish free in some cases) poon on SA in this County and the surroundings is very, very challenging.
Yes certainly there are always outliers to these norms, but in general trying to find those "unicorns" is very frustrating. I recently finished my arrangement because I was no longer happy with either the quality of it plus the ever diminishing returns in the BCD department so it was time to say sayonara and just pack that sh*t in for a while, for one's own sanity. That said, someone like GaGa would most probably have a completely different approach and method, but bear in mind that he lives in a more cost effective State and a very small town at that.Quality.
21 yo sorority girl POT SB... messages me after getting back form the holidays and we agree to meet and talk... Then I notice when I check her private pics she is listed as "practical"... So I ask her...
"You list yourself as having "practical" expectations which is like $3k/mo. according to the site... do you have specific expectations in mind or were you just being literal about being practical?"
She responds... "Well I'm looking for $1000-$15000 meeting twice a month unless you wanna meet more"
I say "Heh.. babe... my rent is $1500/mo. its not in my budget to spend that on two dates. I'm happy to be generous within my means but if you are expecting $500+ per meet we are probably too far apart" Expecting crickets...
The reply... "How much were you thinking?"
I say "Honestly a "date" to me is worth about $200 which is a number that has worked for me in the past. There's a lot more women than men on that site, but the guys who are gonna pay the best money are probably guys that women wouldn't be with otherwise" Again... expecting crickets because of the extreme lowball...
The reply.. "That's very true. That amount works for me, lets meet and discuss how often you'd like to do a "date""
Ha! Thanks to this forum for the collective wisdom that gave me the proper verbiage to accomplish this feat. Now I can meet this total hottie, and not even have to worry that its waste of effort.
nailed it, bro, enjoy!
You will need to treat her like GOLD cuz if she's as hot as you say she will be receiving better offers, so be very nice to her. 👍
Let's hear a follow up on this.
We can all guess as to how things end with LEM 
For the record, I enjoy LEM's tales because they are all frank (not with Frank) and quite entertaining 
I could be wrong but I'd like to be a fly on that wall when the "date" is discussed. I know what the thread says but...
To be continued..,
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and I know from experience that $200 per date can work really well. For some of these women it's a significant amount of money, and it saves them from some crap minimum wage part time job. Let us know how it palys out.
Sweetman! Where are you playing? 200 is hard to o on socal imo.
The day of the M&G comes, and she ghosts her phone. I see her on SA and send a message saying I see that she can log in the site but not answer texts, bad form. She blocks me.
Quality.
sticking with Pros. We all know what the cost factors are living in the so-called "America's Finest City" and we also know that because of these costs, getting inexpensive (or dare I wish free in some cases) poon on SA in this County and the surroundings is very, very challenging.
Yes certainly there are always outliers to these norms, but in general trying to find those "unicorns" is very frustrating. I recently finished my arrangement because I was no longer happy with either the quality of it plus the ever diminishing returns in the BCD department so it was time to say sayonara and just pack that sh*t in for a while, for one's own sanity. That said, someone like GaGa would most probably have a completely different approach and method, but bear in mind that he lives in a more cost effective State and a very small town at that.
Quality.
Until recently I lived in some great towns for pussy, Atlanta and Dallas and as such I got used to the prices in those two towns. If I lived in NYC or LA I would have to get used to the prevailing rates and undoubtedly I would be paying them.
LEN and I "want" to pay the same rates, where we differ is that, mainly due to location I am sure, he is trying to pay considerably less than the going rate and is encountering a LOT of resistance. I don't try to pay less than the going rate, I am just lucky that rates in my area are what they are.
It seems like a LOT of POT SB's are blocking him. That is a sign he is most definitely doing something wrong.
You should be looking to pay average market rate for dates in your area. It doesn't seem that your lowballing strategy is yielding much success. From your reviews, I can see that you've seen some 4-500 per hour pros. You probably don't need to spend that much per date, but clearly 200 ain't working for you. Try offering in the 3-400 range and see if you have better success. Negotiate 2 hours min BCD for between 3-400 so that you will be getting more for your money that way. I think you are coming across to these girls as a cheapskate and it is turning them off. They are looking for guys who are gentlemen and successful. If you can't portray that image via either your manners or you your wallet (or both) you are likely to continue to be frustrated. You do get what you pay for in this game. Good luck.