I'm not saying what the providers he saw did is right. And if a provider ASKED for a tip/gift for a referral that's a one way trip to the "do not see" list. But honestly, referral or not, if you enjoyed a provider, why not tip? I'm just saying if you plan on asking for a referral too, it's a perfect time to do it.
I've been on P411 for about 9 months now and, while I love the ease of the system, it does seem like pulling teeth sometimes to get OKs, even from providers with whom I have an excellent time and wish to see again. When I first joined via references, one of the providers I asked basically threw a fit, saying she would gladly talk to individual girls but not the system (even though she had joined long ago). She relented, but only after her account was temporarily suspended for non-responding.
Another provider did not respond for weeks until I emailed her again. She eventually gave me one, but after I booked a second session with her (which I was planning, just not right then). I've been waiting a week for yet another provider to give me an OK. These are all well-reviewed girls, BTW, and I enjoyed my time with each of them.
Anyone else have these problems? Ladies, is the system that hard to work with? Or is it just me?
Dunno, the ones I see are fine with referrals... if you really need them badly, just send like a 20 dollar e-gift card along with request... that worked like a charm with my first referral.....
I'm sorry I think it's absolutely crazy that you basically have to bribe these providers to get an okay or book a second session with them. Have you actually gone to the administration of p411 and told them about these situations? I have a full time job and still manage to give okays within a few days of when it is sent to my email. I see it as laziness or if they have assistants it's poor management!
As annoying as it is, I think reporting them would only make it worse. Like I said, I enjoyed these ladies and don't want retaliation. I guess it's just something to suck up and deal with.
I'm not saying what the providers he saw did is right. And if a provider ASKED for a tip/gift for a referral that's a one way trip to the "do not see" list. But honestly, referral or not, if you enjoyed a provider, why not tip? I'm just saying if you plan on asking for a referral too, it's a perfect time to do it.
Definitely pure laziness. With the updated technology we have you would think communication would improve along with it.
a sweet compliment along with expressing excitement for the next date (but w/o requesting one). Always works for me. Sometimes it takes a day or so but I've never had one flat out refuse (and that's with over 50 okays excluding ones I deleted).
If she doesn't eventually OK you after that, hit the search button on P411/TER and dive back into the big ole pussy pool. It's so deep and so...refreshing!
P.S. Don't sweat having a lot of okays. Over 5 plus one within last 6 months is all ya need for quick and easy screening assuming you've been well behaved and don't drop 7/7 reviews (or worse) all over the place. I book nearly exclusively through P411, and for most of the exceptions, I usually recommend that the provider join (and sometimes I'll officially invite her through the site). It's the perfect compliment to a VIP membership on TER.
I for one almost always instantly click the link to verify a gent when I get the email. You can even do it through your phone 
All three references provided verification within three days. One of them did not respond promptly because she was offline for a few days due to matters with the kids, but that wasn't a major issue. Since I was a regular client with all three ladies, I never even had to ask.
This was before P411 changed their rules last year, though. That may have had an effect on your recent experience.
That is true...I would say over a year ago it use to allow us as providers to initiate the okays but some providers had to ruin it for all of us. They were giving okays to guys that they had not actually seen in a session, therefore not making it a legit okay because you dont know how the person is BCD. I honestly dont really mind the new rule where they guy has to be the one to reach out to us to receive an okay.
We just started in P411 but we give an OK to all our friends that see us and request it via P411.
As long as you initiate the request with the correct date it should not be a problem.
-Kisses
Sorry for posting under an alias and this is just my opinion, I am not saying the OP is a bad client because I don't know him. But....
Maybe these girls are on the fence, like thinking if they should give him an OK or not?
When I give an OK (or White Listing) is because the appointment was with a nice, pleasant, clean and respectful gentleman. A person other girls will not have any issues and will enjoy his company like I did.
But, if I have any issue with the client during the appointment, if he's YMMV or someone I will not repeat and he ask me for an OK, I will definitely either refuse, ignore his request or simply try to go around it.
Let's face it. I am a professional, I am being paid for my services and I will give my best performance while a YMMV client is with me. I will smile and treat him like I do with all my clients. But give a personal vouch to someone I will not see again? Nope. I am well know and have an excellent reputation and I would never OK a client that I will not see again. Girls will see my name listed as his referral and think if I did give an OK is because the guy IS a great one.
Many girls will go around a YMMV client request, afraid to get a bad review or, worse, being bad mouthed on the guys boards, which can damage their reputation and income
I am lucky enough to have only had to turn down someone's OK request once, because I didn't feel comfortable providing a 100% positive ref for him. It's easy for people to feel pressured into giving OK's because if they turn them down it becomes obvious (or in this case maybe not so obvious) to the client that the provider didn't have the greatest time.
Despite their awful web design I appreciate Date-Check's option between a few different levels of ref from "NOPE DON'T DO IT" to "YES, LOVE THIS DUDE!". Still not detailed enough for me.
I always double check OK's, D-C reccs and whitelists and contact the providers who gave them personally. Most echo the "he's a good guy" referral, but occasionally I have had providers say that they hadn't actually seen the client, or worse.
Maybe these girls are on the fence, like thinking if they should give him an OK or not?
When I give an OK (or White Listing) is because the appointment was with a nice, pleasant, clean and respectful gentleman. A person other girls will not have any issues and will enjoy his company like I did.
But, if I have any issue with the client during the appointment, if he's YMMV or someone I will not repeat and he ask me for an OK, I will definitely either refuse, ignore his request or simply try to go around it.
Let's face it. I am a professional, I am being paid for my services and I will give my best performance while a YMMV client is with me. I will smile and treat him like I do with all my clients. But give a personal vouch to someone I will not see again? Nope. I am well know and have an excellent reputation and I would never OK a client that I will not see again. Girls will see my name listed as his referral and think if I did give an OK is because the guy IS a great one.
Many girls will go around a YMMV client request, afraid to get a bad review or, worse, being bad mouthed on the guys boards, which can damage their reputation and income.
I feel uncomfortable with their system because it feels like I am obligated to give an OK or send a reply with a NO. Then suffer the wrath of the guy I refused to vouch for.
I think we should be able to refuse to give an OK in a graceful manner, without offending the client and we should have the ability to with an alias, like some TER guys do when posting reviews in an anon way.
If we were allowed to be anon on P411, I bet many of those OKs would not be there
And the number of women who have responded "he shorted me", "he tried bareback", "he's filthy", or something like that is astounding. Gina essentially helps bad guys continue booking when she forces us to suffer the wrath of a bad client or give him an ok to trick some other girl into seeing him.
with the character assassination. I've had excellent referrals before I ever joined P411 and continue to have them. One of the providers I mentioned was happy to give me regular referrals, just not an OK to join P411. Now anonymous providers are sniping at me assuming I'm some kind of dirtbag. Every girl I've seen has been happy to see me again, it's just been this particular system. My reputation is spotless in the eyes of those that matter
No one assassinated your character. No one even came close.
Some people suggested a reason why women might not give a referral.
I have never had a problem getting a p411 referral from any woman who used that service. If you can't get a referral and have tried several different women, then maybe a little introspection is what will solve the mystery.
We are discussing the ins and outs of Ok's, what might have happened, and throwing in a little bitching about the way the game is rigged against providers at every turn. No one said anything about you, but if you're this flighty, that might be your answer as to why you, personally, are not getting OKs.
And I'm gonna go ahead and say it. Women get points on there. If you are having trouble and react to the simple discussion of the system, not you, like this, it probably is you causing your own troubles.
There you go. Now you can go cry in your corner. Jesus.
I have noticed that most P411 mail goes into my spam even if I add the address into my email. I have to constantly be checking a spam folder. I would say to send an email to her regular address after sending the request via P411.