For some reason, a lot of folks seem to think the number of pops in a hour is a measure of how good the service was... on the flip side, there are those who are just ok with whatever transpires, and do not put themselves under the pressure of attaining a certain number of O's during a session...
I have found that not expecting so many pops in a session leads to a much better experience overall, and if I do only reach one pop in say an hour, not a big deal as I have probably blown a new hole in the ceiling.
If I'm paying for the time of a provider then why is it so troubling to her to allow a second pop in a 1 hour or 2 hr date. If I am paying for the time shouldn't I be able to get in whatever time allows? I have a pretty good recovery time and a second pop shouldn't be out of the question, specially if the provider advertise under GFE. Help me out; am I wrong?
You're paying for whatever services a provider is known, and willing, to provide. You can't go to a vegetarian restaurant expecting steak, just because you are spending time and money there.
If you do your research and find that the provider has consistently only allowed 1 pop, then it's unreasonable to expect more. If she allows a second pop as a favor, don't mention it in a review without asking her.
If the reviews vary in their descriptions, then you should clarify it with the provider BEFORE the session begins.
As for what GFE entails, look at the posts below yours.
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For some reason, a lot of folks seem to think the number of pops in a hour is a measure of how good the service was... on the flip side, there are those who are just ok with whatever transpires, and do not put themselves under the pressure of attaining a certain number of O's during a session...
I have found that not expecting so many pops in a session leads to a much better experience overall, and if I do only reach one pop in say an hour, not a big deal as I have probably blown a new hole in the ceiling.
Personally, I sometimes have difficulty controlling my excitement over an encounter with someone new, and the first round may end a little sooner than intended. It's not a negative thing to me (unless she takes it as an opportunity to say, "OK, we're done, see you around"), but I also don't want to spend the effort keeping my enthusiasm under control.
It's also been an issue once in a while when a lady insists on extensive conversation beforehand (as in 30-40 minutes). I dislike paying a lady's rate just to listen to her get wound up about her ex-husband (yes, that's happened to me before). I've also run into a lady who had set her clock significantly ahead of what the actual time was. I saw no way to effectively argue with her about it; I just realized that I'd paid an hour's rate for a 35-minute encounter, and never went to see her again.
If we're careful to make the "up close & personal" time last a good long time, then I can deal with a single-round appointment, and will consider myself lucky. It's when I feel like I've been rushed, or had my time and money wasted that I get annoyed about "one and done".
"It's also been an issue once in a while when a lady insists on extensive conversation beforehand (as in 30-40 minutes). I dislike paying a lady's rate just to listen to her get wound up about her ex-husband (yes, that's happened to me before)"
Yeah, thats annoying. Now, I've never done this before (total NOOB) but honestly I just want to have my fun and go (and I'd like to spend as little time as possible there).
I hope something like that doesn't happen on my first time.
You get what you pay for in this hobby as with all things. I've never had an appointment with a well reviewed, top tier lady where she wasn't more than willing to try and coax a second cup out of me. It rarely happens but thats not my goal so it's no biggie for me....trying is an awful lot of fun!
if you are up to multiple cups you should ask the provider for multiple rounds. If you ask and she isn't willing to do that, look for other providers. Also write an honest review and put in what happened during your session.
but, yeah, a provider who advertises as GFE yet doesn't allow seconds, especially on a two hour date, is more than a little misleading, IMHO.
Some interesting comments on this thread. Perhaps I can help bring the planets together with some comments from someone who's seen both sides. (I'm a ts for those new people who don't know me.) Please let me preface this with the comment that every situation and date is different.
I think there is a misconception about "GFE." Remember you are requesting a girlfriend "experience," not a girlfriend.
GFE is generally assumed to mean friendly, passionate companionship, open mouthed kissing, cuddling, fore and after play, full/service, perhaps a light massage.
GFE means the provider is offering something of her personality, not just her body. But it doesn't mean she's going to cook dinner for you (though we do that occasionally - it's fun!) or that you can use her for a preset time, or as long as you want.
In general on "one hour" dates, most providers, unless previously agreed, work on a premise of "up to" an hour, OR until you pop. A date can certainly be GFE, but still end early.
For 2 hours or longer it is generally implied that the provider will allow multiple pops, and is usually being compensated accordingly. Some gents also prefer time to come up for air and enjoy a truly relaxing experience. To me this is the best. It makes being a provider a truly enjoyable experience and you leave as new friends.
But please remember for most guys the second time takes a lot more effort from the girl. Especially if she sees several guys a day, it's a lot easier for her to see an additional date or two, than spend 15 minutes on the first pop and 1 1/2 hours coaxing the second - she could see several other guys.
So as one poster said - knowing your provider is important. Top level girls will expect this and charge you accordningly. But don't expect it from a $100 special on Craigslist.
If you do want something specific there isn't anything wrong with making advance plans with the provider. That's why she's there. But you definately should make your desires clear in advance, and possibly expect to pay a bit extra. Not all providers offer options. You may have to look around.
And for the gent who mentioned chat time. The way many handle it is if they are enjoying a pleasant coversation it's on them. If they are providing "therapy" it's on you. Providers get situations where a gent just wants someone to talk to, but the price is the same and it's probably less than going to a psychaitrist anyway. Giggle. But, especially on a first date, if you are looking for a GFE you do need to allow time to get to know each other, and up to a point this is considered part of the time.
Anyway, I hope this helps a little, but by no means is this meant to be the final say.
Have fun, play safe,
TS Jamie
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My only question is how far into the session did the first pop occur? If you are 40 or 45 minutes into a 1 hour session, a second pop is not likely. There simply isn't enough time. I like to ask at the start of a date if there is more than one blank in your starter gun, that way I know how to pace our fun. If you are a multi kind of guy, then I'll try to make sure we fire off the first round of fireworks around the 30 minute mark to make sure there is plenty of time to fire off another round. If a gentleman tells me that he usually only sets off one round, then I try to make sure we take our time and make sure its a good one. Communication is important that way.
20 minutes she was very hot and I had wanted to see her for sometime. When we finally got through all the references and calls it took almost three weeks to arrange a meeting, she is a very cautious lady, but that body was well worth the wait. The problem was I couldn't keep my cool once the party started and my happy ending was well before the end of the story.