He seemed to very carefully say "repeat felon by the time he was shot" in his post so I would not say he is backing up.
...if the ham sandwich is wearing a police uniform - fuggedaboudit!
Here's a deputy public defender who says it would have been very simple to indict the cops who killed Michael Brown and Eric Garner...
...is like asking a mom to indict her children. Maybe we ought to have independent prosecutors when it comes to prosecuting cops.
but while I wouldn't agree that it is like asking a "Mom to indict her children" I have to concede there are huge conflict of interest, and that hiring an independent prosecutor who doesn't have to work day in and day out with the very same cops who he has been tasked to prosecute makes a lot of sense, even if the idea is coming from an admitted cop hater like Willy. lol
You would rather have an indictment followed by a trial, which would most likely end with the officer being found not guilty.
How do you think the public would respond to such a verdict, after we have seen the response on the decision not to indict?
but this on-going collusion/conflict of interest between the police, prosecutor and the GJ has me both frightened by, and contemptuous of the police in general. They're supposed to be "public servants"; not a military equipped goon squad of usurpers, bullies, and latent homicidal thugs.
Here's a deputy public defender who says it would have been very simple to indict the cops who killed Michael Brown and Eric Garner...
If the DA does not feel they can win the case it should not proceed to trial. I think that is clear in the MO case, but not clear in the NY case. I agree the reaction to a "not guilty" verdict in a trial would be no better than the "no indict" reaction.
If you need anymore proof then why is this story coming out now?
He knows the Feds are not finished with this case!
I think he is trying to cover up his actions now.
Just remember this DA comes from a family of cops.
In each case, had they only listened to the cop, they would be alive today. Garner was a career criminal and Brown was a repeat felon by the time he was shot and well on his way to being a career criminal. It was never going to go well for either man. An early grave or an early jail cell were in their immediate future.
While the Garner case differs from the Feguson case in significant ways, when are we going to have "the talk" about blacks destroying their own kind day after day? Sadly that doesn't get the headlines.
It's so much easier to point the finger at white cops rather than the real problem: the all too often out of control, young black male who doesn't respect his own race, let alone anyone of any other race.
You place blame there, acknowledge that part of the equation and I'll listen all day long about the white cop here or there that abused his authority.
...proof, other than 86H13LTP told you so?
You took a page right out of GaGoebbels playbook - keep repeating a lie enough times and eventually your fellow brain-dead righties will believe it.
"Cynthia Harcourt, lawyer for the juvenile officer in family court tells St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter Jeremy Kohler that he was not facing any serious felony charges at time of death. Brown has never been convicted of a serious felony in family court."
Should we believe your righty lies or should we believe Cynthia Harcourt?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/brown.asp
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/04/us/michael-brown-never-faced-serious-felony-charge-st-louis-officials-lawyer-says.html?_r=0
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/juvenile-court-michael-brown-had-no-most-serious-felony-convictions/article_43c9bbbb-356f-5ea6-b9e2-7dde7e3e5c83.html
http://fox2now.com/2014/09/03/lawsuits-seek-any-michael-brown-juvenile-records/
St. Louis County, Family Court does not have a branch that handles criminal cases.
... at least I couldn't find it on their webpage.
http://www.stlouisco.com/LawandPublicSafety/CircuitCourt/FamilyCourt
You eediot!!!!
Or was the video a lie
Jack didn’t say Brown had been convicted of multiple felonies but only that he was a "repeat felon."
1. The strong arm robbery was robbery in the second degree, a class B felony under Missouri law. Felony number 1.
2. Brown’s assault on Officer Wilson in Wilson’s view was an attempt to kill him or cause him serious bodily harm. Felony number 2.
We don’t really know if Brown committed other felonies while a juvenile- only that he did not commit Class A or Class B felonies. That still leaves Class C felonies, so you cannot definitely say Jack is wrong even with respect to felony convictions. Given that Missouri officials have stated that Brown committed “no serious felonies,” that carefully hedged language tells me Class C is on the books.
But welcome back. I know Jack will be glad to see you- he’s really been overmatched lately. LOL
The felonies I was referring to happened the SAME day of his death. Just further illustrates my point that some on the left have zero desire to talk about the truth in these cases.
I'll give you props for actually reading my post as opposed to BigNarc who jumped to conclusions with his hair on fire without the facts, as usual. I do have to admit that I had to look twice at your "score board" to make sure I had the "1" and BP had the "zero". Lol
As for your overmatched comment...well...I'll let that slide under the circumstances. I don't want to ruin this warm and fuzzy moment between us. Lol.
...felonies he committed on the same day. Is that what you're claiming? ROFLMAO!! How frigging weak that is! You were talking about his HISTORY of felonies but you can't back it up so you came up with a totally ridiculous claim that "repeat felon" meant all the felonies he committed in one day. Why can't you righties just admit when you're wrong?
Why did you say "Exactly!" to fake lawyer marikod's nitpicking theory? You are grasping at straws so desperately that you glom onto a stupid theory about degrees of felonies. You didn't "Exactly!" agree with him; where did you talk about his dumbass minutiae?
You would be better off if you took another page out of GaGoebbels' playbook - when getting your ass kicked, just say: "I don't want to take the bait and argue with you." You'll save face and won't look more foolish than you already do.
He seemed to very carefully say "repeat felon by the time he was shot" in his post so I would not say he is backing up.
At keeping his juvenile record sealed (which means he has one!!) and there are no "SERIOUS" felonies in it.
BFD.
The dude was a thug and so is his mom and step dad .
I'd bet there are more than 1 former victims of this thug that aren't out protesting him being dead.
For quite some time now I've been absolutely amazed that the collective groups representing the pro white guilt crowd, the anti-police crowd and the race baiting/race hustler crowd have chose these two guys as their latest "poster children" for their causes, especially Brown. There are plenty of examples of racism today, plenty of examples of law enforcement abuse, plenty of examples of criminal justice "injustice", but these guys just are not them. Why base one's case on lies and distortions when it's just not needed? Of course these were simply perfect storms of an initial lie, amplified by a willfully dishonest media and then latched onto by blood sucking race hustlers. I guess it must make perfect sense to them.
I just don't understand why some on the Left use the worst examples to back up their claims. Look, I have had to rethink some things on the capital punishment front. There are some issues re: that I feel need to be examined more closely.
But that being said, using the Mumia Abdul Jamaal case as a reason to end it is absurd. The Left has made an evil crazed cop killer into a poster boy for there cause. Do they not understand how important PR is in winning hearts and minds to there cause? It doesn't appear that way.
Ferguson is a total joke of a case. Staten Island is more complex but still full of holes. Libs keep jumping the gun and not waiting for the facts to come out and they get burned time and time again. It's what happens when you follow a fraud, a liar and tax cheat like Sharpton. And the dopey media follows him in to every ambush
You had to go back to your 1950's views.
I will let the people that really know answer you:
http://fox2now.com/2014/09/03/michael-browns-juvenile-record-had-no-serious-criminal-conviction/
Also after watching that Garner video and you still think he was resisting arrest?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/usa-today-pew-poll-eric-garner-michael-brown/20098781/
So let's look at some of the cop history:
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/chokehold_cop_was_defendant_in.html
Then let's talk about white people committing crimes against themselves!
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2013/07/22/84-of-murders-are-white-on-white/
I know you and Fox Fake news are holding on to your old ways of thinking!
Also I guess Rudy Giuliani does not want to talk about his own family issues?
He just wants to talk about other people kids and called them thugs.
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Race and violent crime stats?? Do a bit more research before you come with a single stat like whites are responsible for 84% of whites murders.
I will let the people that really know answer you:
http://fox2now.com/2014/09/03/michael-browns-juvenile-record-had-no-serious-criminal-conviction/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/ferguson-grand-jury-documents-withheld/20072311/
Also after watching that Garner video and you still think he was resisting arrest?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/usa-today-pew-poll-eric-garner-michael-brown/20098781/
So let's look at some of the cop history:
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/chokehold_cop_was_defendant_in.html
Then let's talk about white people committing crimes against themselves!
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2013/07/22/84-of-murders-are-white-on-white/
I know you and Fox Fake news are holding on to your old ways of thinking!
Also I guess Rudy Giuliani does not want to talk about his own family issues?
He just wants to talk about other people kids and called them thugs.
-- Modified on 12/14/2014 7:58:57 AM
So the Justice department now should do more research? LOL
I will let the people that really know answer you:
http://fox2now.com/2014/09/03/michael-browns-juvenile-record-had-no-serious-criminal-conviction/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/ferguson-grand-jury-documents-withheld/20072311/
Also after watching that Garner video and you still think he was resisting arrest?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/usa-today-pew-poll-eric-garner-michael-brown/20098781/
So let's look at some of the cop history:
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/chokehold_cop_was_defendant_in.html
Then let's talk about white people committing crimes against themselves!
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2013/07/22/84-of-murders-are-white-on-white/
I know you and Fox Fake news are holding on to your old ways of thinking!
Also I guess Rudy Giuliani does not want to talk about his own family issues?
He just wants to talk about other people kids and called them thugs.
-- Modified on 12/14/2014 7:58:57 AM
if you quote just a small portion of the statement your numbers are still true but not really reflective of the TRUTH. If you start talking race and crime there really isn't much comparison. If you close your eyes to the fact that there is a problem in the African American community in regards to how the young males are raised in some areas the problems will never get better.
"According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 72.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 25.3% and Native Americans and Asians 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks."
"According to the BJS non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 54.4% of the prison and jail population in 2009, with whites 26.2%, and Hispanics 19.4%. The incarceration rate of black males was over 9 times higher than that of white males, with a rate of 4,749 per 100,000 US residents"
I will let the people that really know answer you:
http://fox2now.com/2014/09/03/michael-browns-juvenile-record-had-no-serious-criminal-conviction/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/ferguson-grand-jury-documents-withheld/20072311/
Also after watching that Garner video and you still think he was resisting arrest?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/usa-today-pew-poll-eric-garner-michael-brown/20098781/
So let's look at some of the cop history:
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/chokehold_cop_was_defendant_in.html
Then let's talk about white people committing crimes against themselves!
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2013/07/22/84-of-murders-are-white-on-white/
I know you and Fox Fake news are holding on to your old ways of thinking!
Also I guess Rudy Giuliani does not want to talk about his own family issues?
He just wants to talk about other people kids and called them thugs.
-- Modified on 12/14/2014 7:58:57 AM
I love how some people don't want to accept facts.
When it makes them look foolish!
Just know that it's crime scum in every race.
"According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 72.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 25.3% and Native Americans and Asians 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks."
"According to the BJS non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 54.4% of the prison and jail population in 2009, with whites 26.2%, and Hispanics 19.4%. The incarceration rate of black males was over 9 times higher than that of white males, with a rate of 4,749 per 100,000 US residents"
I will let the people that really know answer you:
http://fox2now.com/2014/09/03/michael-browns-juvenile-record-had-no-serious-criminal-conviction/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/ferguson-grand-jury-documents-withheld/20072311/
Also after watching that Garner video and you still think he was resisting arrest?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/usa-today-pew-poll-eric-garner-michael-brown/20098781/
So let's look at some of the cop history:
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/chokehold_cop_was_defendant_in.html
Then let's talk about white people committing crimes against themselves!
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2013/07/22/84-of-murders-are-white-on-white/
I know you and Fox Fake news are holding on to your old ways of thinking!
Also I guess Rudy Giuliani does not want to talk about his own family issues?
He just wants to talk about other people kids and called them thugs.
-- Modified on 12/14/2014 5:51:44 PM
When it makes them look foolish!
Just know that it's crime scum in every race.
"According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 72.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 25.3% and Native Americans and Asians 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks."
"According to the BJS non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 54.4% of the prison and jail population in 2009, with whites 26.2%, and Hispanics 19.4%. The incarceration rate of black males was over 9 times higher than that of white males, with a rate of 4,749 per 100,000 US residents"
I will let the people that really know answer you:
http://fox2now.com/2014/09/03/michael-browns-juvenile-record-had-no-serious-criminal-conviction/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/ferguson-grand-jury-documents-withheld/20072311/
Also after watching that Garner video and you still think he was resisting arrest?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/08/usa-today-pew-poll-eric-garner-michael-brown/20098781/
So let's look at some of the cop history:
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/chokehold_cop_was_defendant_in.html
Then let's talk about white people committing crimes against themselves!
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2013/07/22/84-of-murders-are-white-on-white/
I know you and Fox Fake news are holding on to your old ways of thinking!
Also I guess Rudy Giuliani does not want to talk about his own family issues?
He just wants to talk about other people kids and called them thugs.
-- Modified on 12/14/2014 5:51:44 PM
The sad part is when a white kid kills they are not thugs but have mental problems.
This clown was a mass murder just like the assholes in Columbine High School massacre too.
http://www.history.com/topics/columbine-high-school-shootings
I would call them thugs and a worthless pieces of shit.
So the truth is white killers are just the same type of scum as a black or Latin killers.
Also those who want to point fingers are again foolish.
Since crime comes in all different colors and races of people!
-- Modified on 12/14/2014 8:23:22 PM
but mentally unstable sure. The fact is MOST mass shootings involve a mentally unstable individual. I am completely in agreement with you on white killers, call them thugs whatever you want. Hell personally I think John Holmes should be drawn and quartered in the street...
The "thug" term really doesn't change the fact or issue. There are bad people in every race. Thugs if you want to call them that. Its been used in English territories for 200 years or more.
Based on his strong arm robbery is it really not appropriate to use the term for Brown or any other violent criminal?
"(Thug) historical A member of an organization of robbers and assassins in India."
" Oxford dictionary- A violent person, especially a criminal"
Every thing is so PC now actually addressing and fixing the issues isn't possible. What term would you like to be used?
Do you, along with the left realize that Brown was killed by several gun shots, while Garners died from an asthma attack brought on by a physical altercation?
The two technical causes of death are not related in any fashion, other than they were caused by an interaction with LE. Therefore no comparison can be made between the two incidents.
You no what I haven't heard about lately? Citizens dying after they have been tased by the police.
My name was Antonio West. I was the 13-month old child who was shot in the face at point blank range by two black teens attempting to rob my mother, who was also shot. My murder and my mommy's wounding made the news for maybe a day, and then disappeared. A Grand Jury of mommy's peers from Brunswick, Georgia ruled the black teens who murdered me will not face the death penalty. It was me who got the death sentence from my killers instead, because Mommy didn't have the money they demanded. See, my family made the mistake of being white in a 73% non-white neighborhood, but my murder wasn't ruled a 'hate crime'. Oh, and President Obama didn't take a single moment to acknowledge my murder. He couldn't have any children who could possibly look like me - so why should he care? I'm one of the youngest murder victims in our nation's history, but the media didn't cover the story of my being killed in cold blood. There isn't a white equivalent of Al Sharpton, because if there was he would be branded a 'racist'. So no one's rushing to Brunswick, Georgia to demonstrate and demand 'justice' for me. There's no 'White Panther' party to put a bounty on the lives of the two black teens who murdered me. I have no voice. I have no representation. Unlike those who shot me in the face while I sat innocently in my stroller, I no longer have my life. So while you're seeking 'justice for Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown', please remember to seek 'justice' for me. Tell your friends about me, tell your families, get tee-shirts with my face on them, and make the world pay attention, just like you did for them. I won't hold my breath.
...the facts before you plagiarize. And the comparison to Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown cases is a false equivalency.
illogical, or as you put it a "false equivalency" ?
... if your answer is, Brown was shot and killed by a on duty LE who took an oath, where as Martin was shot and killed by a private citizen who took no oath? I would agree with you.
I think the comparison was more about T-shirts, than the people who were actually killed.
Speaking of T-shirts, or in this instance sweat shirts. I saw a "I can't breath" sweat shirt with what look to be a Nike 'swoosh' logo under the text. I'm wondering if Nike will sue who ever printed or designed that particular piece of swag?
... and if so, was that done intentionally to provoke a lawsuit from Nike? I'm fairly certain that logo is registered trade mark.
You know Mr BIG BOY, first I did not plagiarize (I stated right up front) second, the boys mother's surname was West and that was what the child was often called. You obviously missed the whole point, not surprised as your messiah's Sharpton and President Obama (yes I do give approbation to the office, not the man) said not word of this insidious act on a young child.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/antoniowest.asp
I don't know what your problem is other than being a misogynist, but you have always spoken in a fetid tone whenever I make a post. Quit being a misogynist, get laid and maybe you won't be such nasty human being.
-- Modified on 12/14/2014 12:49:09 PM
stab someone in the back
Thank you
...a false equivalency between the case you cite and Trayvon Martin.
You scream "misogynist" when someone disagrees with you. What did I do to disparage you as a woman? My post was three sentences long. Where was the misogyny?
I merely disagreed with your post. I disagree with other women here and on other boards yet they don't go crying "misogyny" like a little bitch. Now that's an example of misogyny (although I call men "little bitches" too).
Again, where is the misogyny? If someone disagrees with you, you fall back on that old crutch: "Oh poor me, they're picking on me because I'm a woman. Boo hoo, they're such mean misogynists." Put on your BIG BOY pants Cherie, and take disagreement with your opinion like a man.
Its not that you disagree, it is how you do it, in a very contemptuous manner.
Words from my favorite Prophet, miss him, BTW watch 5:14-8:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHm402eOwZk
BTW
Merry Christmas
No, I am not politically correct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvISFZ7bQcE
-- Modified on 12/14/2014 10:28:41 PM
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