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a perfectly healthy human being wouldn't want to die, no part of them EOM
Madison_Ohare See my TER Reviews 272 reads
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I would never try to take away your right to be autonomous, stand in your own power on how to live and die.  If put on a ballot, I support individual freedom of choice.  That's all.

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GaGambler391 reads

Claiming that "God knows best" is hardly an answer.

You really can't compare science to the fairy tales that are religion, and that goes for all religions, not just Christians.

That said, I support the right to die as one sees fit, and not be sentenced to an agonizing and lingering death, just because some fairy tale claims  that "god doesn't want it that way"

Reason I ask is I want to see if you (or GaG, or anyone else) would put any restrictions on PAS. This is important for the slippery slope argument will kick in at some point.

You said you would "never" try and stop someone's "right" to PAS and I just want to see if you stand by it or misspoke.

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I believe physicians are in the business to save lives, but if it's inevitable that a human will suffer a terrifying death.  I don't have the right to judge or take that right away.  Both are brave, those that fight and those that say enough is enough I give up my spirit.

What if someone has a terminal illness, has no current symptoms, but wants to die now? What if they are given years to live, not weeks or months? Yay or nay?

What if someone isn't terminal, but wants to die due to unbearable, untreatable depression like in the case of them watching their entire family murdered in front of them but they were spared? Yay or nay?

What if they are in excruciating pain 24/7 but are not terminal?  

My point is that it is fairly easy for someone to say they are in favor of PAS, and to further say they would never restrict life and death decisions for another, until you actually start going thru each and every different case /scenario with the complexities, nuances and difficulties each one brings to the moral/legal table

GaGambler386 reads

well almost always, as ALWAYS is also one of those words that will get you in trouble as well. lol

In re to PAS, I believe in it, with a couple of caveats of course. Not the least of which would be a competency hearing for the person wanting to die with the help of a doctor. If their problem is 100% medical, such as in the case of the young woman in Oregon dying from brain cancer, I am in full support of it. If on the other hand the patient has a psychological condition and only "believes" there is no hope, with medical professionals believing other wise, well that is quite a different matter.

I would make exceptions in some cases, if for instance bigdumbfuck or Hadji were to wake up some morning with an overpowering urge to end their own life, with or without the aid of a physician, I would be in full support of their right to do so. lol

Since it's required of a person, who wants to change their gender, to have psychological counseling and evaluation, then it would seem reasonable to require the same for PAS.

Posted By: mattradd
Since it's required of a person, who wants to change their gender, to have psychological counseling and evaluation, then it would seem reasonable to require the same for PAS.
Given you above statement. Are you of the position that a person seeking GRS is in the fact the gender they were born? Thus proving there is no surgical method in which an individual can have their physical gender changed.

Posted By: JohnyComeAlready
 
   
Posted By: mattradd
Since it's required of a person, who wants to change their gender, to have psychological counseling and evaluation, then it would seem reasonable to require the same for PAS.
   
 Given you above statement. Are you of the position that a person seeking GRS is in the fact the gender they were born? Thus proving there is no surgical method in which an individual can have their physical gender changed.

Not that the two issues are the same Oregon allows assisted suicide, however the state wants to do away with capital punishment. Like I said two different issues, which do take place under different circumstances.

Madison, how do you feel about non physician assisted suicides?

 
Say someone who is not a physician assists with an individual's suicide, Should that be legal?

I couldn't take my 14 1/2 year old lab and have her put down because until the very end she still enjoyed life, dogs have a different way of dealing with death.  She left and walked miles away from my voice, scent, touch on the day she died.

As for people, I could never give a mercy killing.  Me and my mother were asked to make a decision on taking my father off life support after he had been in a coma for a month.  We couldn't do without another brain scan.  Before the equipment was attached, he died on his own and I am glad we didn't have to make that choice.

As for me, if I am diagnosed with a terminal illness that will steal my dignity.  yes, I would like to choice to bow out gracefully on my own free will if the suffering became to great that was drug induced anyway.

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