Politics and Religion

Re: no, Obama is not responsible for the draconian drug laws
DA_Flex 273 reads
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OK...I just can't respond to crazy.

Posted By: Madison_Ohare
I have come to the conclusion that he is either  
   
 A) a puppet, pansy, just like the leader before him and would be JFK'd if he changed anything for the 1%er's, purpose to keep us fighting and distracted  
   
 or  
   
 B) a jihadist that hates America and will let ISIS through our southern border by teaming up with Mexican drug cartels.  
   
   
 

DA_Flex1999 reads

Here is an apparent case of civil asset forfeiture abuse, a tool that local and federal agencies use to fund their operations against U.S. Citizens.  Current asset forfeiture laws are not being used to go after the true drug barons in this country but seemingly ordinary citizens that are trying to help themselves or others, in the case of medical marijuana.  Sen. Rand has proposed the FAIR act to address this issue at the Federal issue, but it's clear that these laws need to change.

Now that we have gotten the cannabis debate out of the way. What mind altering substance would you like to address next heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine or MDMA?

 
I have now problem calling marijuana cultivation and distribution a "business" endeavour. I think we can skip the "we are here to help" nonsense when discussing the issue. I'm old enough to buy pot in the state where the substance has been decriminalized. Let us avoid publications where the author address their audience as if they are juveniles.

Posted By: DA_Flex
Here is an apparent case of civil asset forfeiture abuse, a tool that local and federal agencies use to fund their operations against U.S. Citizens.  Current asset forfeiture laws are not being used to go after the true drug barons in this country but seemingly ordinary citizens that are trying to help themselves or others, in the case of medical marijuana.  Sen. Rand has proposed the FAIR act to address this issue at the Federal issue, but it's clear that these laws need to change.

are the Mexican drug cartel have freely entered our Southern border and can get weapons by corruption, and spread meth and heroin across our country to ever little town destroying families and lives.

And the police want to seize property because of weed.  Are we really that dumbed-down that we allow this to happen?  I guess anything is possible, if people can stand in a voting booth and vote for someone with the name Barack Hussein Obama

Took place in Arizona. The raid was conducted by local law enforcement, I don't think the Obama administration was directly involved in this incident.

What you mentioned in your response should be of great interest to the public. I will also add that the individual is responsible for what substances they decide to use.

Posted By: Madison_Ohare
are the Mexican drug cartel have freely entered our Southern border and can get weapons by corruption, and spread meth and heroin across our country to ever little town destroying families and lives.  
   
 And the police want to seize property because of weed.  Are we really that dumbed-down that we allow this to happen?  I guess anything is possible, if people can stand in a voting booth and vote for someone with the name Barack Hussein Obama.  
   
 

DA_Flex226 reads

Madison

I see that you are also part of the "Lets Blame Obama for Everything Crowd"  But these asset forfeiture laws found their legs in the height of the drug war during the Reagan Administration. These "civil" actions were supposed to be used to go after the drug cartels and drug kingpins.  Today, many police departments actively pursued civil  forfeiture as a means to fund their departments, because in a majority of cases, they get to keep the assets.  Because this is a civil action, the burden of proof now turns to the defendant, who has to file suit to get their property back.  Unfortunately, these laws are often used to target those who cannot fight back.  See the example from Philly.

Posted By: Madison_Ohare
are the Mexican drug cartel have freely entered our Southern border and can get weapons by corruption, and spread meth and heroin across our country to ever little town destroying families and lives.  
   
 And the police want to seize property because of weed.  Are we really that dumbed-down that we allow this to happen?  I guess anything is possible, if people can stand in a voting booth and vote for someone with the name Barack Hussein Obama.  
   
 

GaGambler316 reads

Not the cause of it.

and although I was/am a huge fan of many things that Reagan did, the truth of the matter is, we doubled down on stupid regarding the "war on drugs" under Reagan and as much as I can't stand Obama, Reagan is more to blame for the current situation where it comes to this travesty of justice than is Obama.

Now this is not to say that Obama has clean hands, but he wasn't the cause of this, it started way before him.

and while while we are at it, the Mexican drug cartels have very little to do with the meth epidemic in this country, we can blame that one strictly on ourselves. Meth is a home grown problem, not one that we import.

Although this article is dated from 2012, it is a fact that most meth is imported from Mexico:

ST. LOUIS (AP) — Mexican drug cartels are quietly filling the void in the nation's drug market created by the long effort to crack down on American-made methamphetamine, flooding U.S. cities with exceptionally cheap, extraordinarily potent meth from factorylike "superlabs."

Although Mexican meth is not new to the U.S. drug trade, it now accounts for as much as 80 percent of the meth sold here, according to the Drug Enforcement Administration. And it is as much as 90 percent pure, a level that offers users a faster, more intense and longer-lasting high.

"These are sophisticated, high-tech operations in Mexico that are operating with extreme precision," said Jim Shroba, a DEA agent in St. Louis. "They're moving it out the door as fast as they can manufacture it."

was bathtub crank made out of chemicals like strychnine (rat poison) and red phosphorus.  It was a nasty high and most people didn't even like it except truck drivers that needed to stay awake.

Mexican drug cartels brought in "Ice" a purer form of methamphetamine, yes we did get some homegrown chemists until over the counter drugs like Sudafed have become unavailable in bulk.  And whatever else they buy off the shelf at Home Depot.

Ice, comes from the pit of hell.  I bet ever single one of us has been touched with a relative, friend or friend of friend that has fought that demon.  The most terrible drug ever invented that gets little girls that want to be skinny or have a lot of energy.  It's the devil, if there ever was one

I have come to the conclusion that he is either

A) a puppet, pansy, just like the leader before him and would be JFK'd if he changed anything for the 1%er's, purpose to keep us fighting and distracted

or

B) a jihadist that hates America and will let ISIS through our southern border by teaming up with Mexican drug cartels

DA_Flex274 reads

OK...I just can't respond to crazy.

Posted By: Madison_Ohare
I have come to the conclusion that he is either  
   
 A) a puppet, pansy, just like the leader before him and would be JFK'd if he changed anything for the 1%er's, purpose to keep us fighting and distracted  
   
 or  
   
 B) a jihadist that hates America and will let ISIS through our southern border by teaming up with Mexican drug cartels.  
   
   
 

Here is an article written back in 2012 on jihadists growing in Mexico.  So why do we have a border crisis, but we are more concerned with Syria and Iraq?  Makes no sense.

What is crazy, is funding both sides of a war on terrorists or drugs.  Then make American citizens the enemy.

http://www.examiner.com/article/growing-jihadist-presence-mexico-causes-alarm

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