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I always read profiles!
SassyRed See my TER Reviews 394 reads
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Just saying.......

Red;-))

I'm a big fan of P411. Sounds like many are from a previous post. Great quality ladies, classy site, good search engine, and responsive service. It's so convenient I often don't bother looking elsewhere or even past the "Top Listings" (worth the extra cost if I was advertising). So..

Do some folks see it as a red flag if someone is not on P411?

Also, it's great that many ladies don't need references in addition but I'm amazed that many don't even bother looking at my profile or reading it. I put a note asking them to let me know if they read my profile and in 6 years only one lady ever mentioned it. Why don't ladies read our profiles? I read theirs

...woman doesn't have a profile on P411 but I'm curious why they don't. Maybe they're relatively new and aren't aware of it or maybe where they live they've been rather insular and haven't needed a national/international site to verify their clients but, rather have depended on their local and state boards and reference systems. I recall a few years ago when there was a major bust of an infamous San Francisco Hobby board, many Bay Area Providers and Hobbyists scrambled to find a comparable substitute. Many gravitated to the SFO TER board which had been pretty much ignored until then. Most of the Providers didn't have a TER profile nor were P411 members and it was interesting to watch how that changed as Providers learned to use the TER system and cultivate reviews to make SFO Board much more active than it ever had been and more were brought to the attention of visiting and area Hobbyists. But, I digress  :)

I tend to only see ladies who have P411 profiles because it's like hitting the Easy button and I'm rarely asked for more information than what's already available to them. I have dozens of P411 OKAYs and I've also noticed that few ladies ever look at my profile before replying to my appointment request but just reply that we're good to go. I suspect that once they see that you're a P411 with 'X' amount of OKAYs that it's like hitting the Easy button for them, too and they don't need any further info.  

Something new I've noticed over the past couple of years; a lady can't give you an OK until you've had a session with her and the Hobbyist has requested an OK from her and I don't request an OK until my review of her has been published (unless the OK is an update of an already existing one) and it's often two months or so before I submit a review. Formerly, when a lady gave me an OK it would show up on my profile on the day she submitted it and it would be dated for that day, viz., I saw her in September, asked for an OK in November and her OK would be dated for November. Now, if I saw a woman in September, say, asked for an OK in November, the OK shows up dated for the day we had we met in September. It makes me think that the ladies can go ahead and submit an OK right after the session and it lies in limbo until the guy submits an OK request or, P411 goes ahead and backdates the OK to the time of the session for some reason. Have you experienced this? It's really not a big deal but I recently had a woman in Miami require me to submit a personal Provider reference because I hadn't had a new OK in over 6 months. I would have been all right had I had those extra 2 months to work with but no big deal, really.

Whew, long answers. Looking forward to that drink  :D

They can't actually be that confident the session happened as originally scheduled.  Simpler to wait for the OK to be requested.

I like the Easy button analogy - Their new marketing. I hadn't noticed the change to backdating ok's. I'll get it quickly after so they don't forget. Makes sense but I doubt they approve it ahead of time. I'll try something new every couple of months to keep my references fresh.  

A couple of folks messaged me about why ladies don't bother viewing profiles. I get it - most aren't interested in taking a minute to get to know clients ahead of meeting but it's always wishful thinking that they care. It's impressive when they do.  

Also - I'm sure the LE knows about all these sites and the business (if we can, they can) but look away unless it's in the press, organized crime, or trafficking under age...as they should. They have more important stuff to do besides busting consenting adults.

My experience is similar.  I only book via p411, though I use TER for research.  Some will check my profile, but some don't bother.  I've had a few younger ones check my profile and then not bother to respond.  And I've had some respond and arrange dates and never check my profile.  These tended to be more mature ladies.  I guess they go by number of okays.  I have okays from everyone I've ever booked (though at least one person has deleted an okay after about six months.

My main and favorite place is P411. I do read profiles..there's usually helpful or useful info there! I also actually confirm references, although there are a few providers who refuse. If you bother to provide information for me, I will definitely make time to read it!

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