a brand new alias!
with schedulers etc. posting fake reviews?
In the spirit of the season, "I'm making a list," of the less credible and the incredible and maybe you would help me check it twice.
This is part of the problem!
You mean like Kissandtell1969 ?
Not trying to be argumentative. Just noting you are the only person to have also reviewed a kissandtell1969 provider, so it is confusing, given that your review was good, that you would question his.
If you have VIP click on the reviewer's name and you will see only 3 reviews, all brand new, of 3 newly appearing providers. Read them and see what you see. I'm not criticizing the providers, and stand by my review. PM me if you want more info.
Hey Hey,. Don't be jealous . He's got some serious MOJO going on with all these first time reviews.
Kissy boy please do tell us your secrets to your phenomenal success. Open invitation to come in the ring.
I booked an appointment based on a singular review recently, until I realized that the same reviewer also had posted reviews for 3 other girls on the same day, all of whom also only had one review.
I cancelled.
I would have thought TER would come down on this more heavily. It undermines the usefulness and credibility of reviews
If it is the reviewer I am thinking of those three failed to whitelist him or he has them hidden.
Worried I suppose that it would make things even more unrbielievable.
Situations like this make the whitelist system suspect also as those three could give him and them more credibility to the unknowing.
TER coming down on this . Now thats some funny shit . You are correct it indeed undermines credibility, but its TER' s credibility thats underminded. These ace detectives can spot a post that is misplaced but not this BS.
Yeah real credible
I cancelled.
I would have thought TER would come down on this more heavily. It undermines the usefulness and credibility of reviews.
You DID report it, yes? That's the only way problems like that will get taken care of. It's easier for the "locals" to spot stuff like that than Admin.
Same ol same ol. Call in the TER referees to solve what we should be solving ourselves. Yes,we may spot this better but if not called out on this board with the names behind it nothing solved. If its clearly reportable to them , it should be reported here first. Let them all know we are watching. The Shedulers and providers that use them. To expect me to believe that providers are totally in the dark on this is well, ridiculous.
Has it been going on long yes ,will it continue yes. But to stand by silently without adding some pain to them . Nothing will change .
I will take the risk of loosing favorable preference, to stand up for whats right and not support what is wrong. Just not from the safe space of crying to TER. How about the rest of the board?
It's fixing the problem for EVERYONE, not just the few who happen to read the Minnesota discussion thread about it. What happens when that thread goes to Page 2 and beyond? How many will see it then?
It's easy to make a post here and complain. It takes a little more time and effort to report a problem to Admin with sufficient info such that they can take action. But IMO it's worth that extra time and effort to benefit this community, not only for a few people today but for everyone long term.
As for standing up for what's right here... I'll compare my record to yours on that score any day, any time.
Has it been going on long yes ,will it continue yes. But to stand by silently without adding some pain to them . Nothing will change .
I will take the risk of loosing favorable preference, to stand up for whats right and not support what is wrong. Just not from the safe space of crying to TER. How about the rest of the board?
No knots thats your first answer to every god damn problem. Then your name is behind the curtains and in your safe zone. Fuck that so "they" can take action , grow some god damn balls? Reviews disappearing without the community knowing why especially if there is a pattern, does that serve us in the long term ? No I do not believe it does.
If you would have read and understood, which you didnt. What I said was. If clearly reportable to them, its should be reported here first. I did not say only here did I ? No .
Again you clearly missed the point. Its not about records or a score, honestly i could give a shit less about the numbers. I said , I will take the risk of loosing favorable preference to stand for what's right. Seperate concept. No I'm not going to kiss someones ass so i can maybe get an appointment or a referral. I'll leave that to the WK
But when you can also get TER to take action on such things then it has a lasting effect.
... then you'd know I've brought many problems to the attention of the community over the years. But when it's something that Admin can do something about, I bring it to their attention for action.
I don't agree that every issue should be brought here first. For example, there's some issues that directly affect the safety of providers or hobbyists, e.g. a provider's incall location or identity being compromised, and in those cases at least I think it's important to get action ASAP. When Admin can take action to resolve the problem, I report it as soon as I see it. I don't think that's "ass kissing" and I don't think I and others who do that need to "grow some balls".
I also don't post on here about what actions I've taken on issues every time I do it. If it's something that I think it's important for the community to know about, I'll post it instead of or in addition to reporting it--depends on the situation.
If you don't like reporting issues to Admin, no one's forcing you to do it. But why insult people who choose to do that? How about trying to understand why they'd do that, rather than calling them ass kissers who need to grow balls? How does that help?
If you would have read and understood, which you didnt. What I said was. If clearly reportable to them, its should be reported here first. I did not say only here did I ? No .
Again you clearly missed the point. Its not about records or a score, honestly i could give a shit less about the numbers. I said , I will take the risk of loosing favorable preference to stand for what's right. Seperate concept. No I'm not going to kiss someones ass so i can maybe get an appointment or a referral. I'll leave that to the WK.
Very good rebuttal Funman.
There was a time, when I was very active in the hobby, and on this board.
My reviews were honest, concise, objective and fair.
I can remember more times than I wish, of having another individual protest my review, or the mini review that I posted to this very board.
From what I understand, My former handle was deemed to be very creditable.
It was always my intent to submit a solid review, and I did not care if the providers or their WKs were pissed or attempted to contest my experiences.
I despised false reviews, as this was a huge disservice to the community, be it a hobbyist or a well reviewed provider, who had earned her reputation.
It is truly sad to see the original intent of this board and the reviews, slip from creditable, to somewhat questionable. But then again, as my father had always said. " Consider the Source "
If you would have read and understood, which you didnt. What I said was. If clearly reportable to them, its should be reported here first. I did not say only here did I ? No .
Again you clearly missed the point. Its not about records or a score, honestly i could give a shit less about the numbers. I said , I will take the risk of loosing favorable preference to stand for what's right. Seperate concept. No I'm not going to kiss someones ass so i can maybe get an appointment or a referral. I'll leave that to the WK.
Objectivity is everything but I do allow for the fact that these ladies are humans. I may not be their preference either, for some reason. They may be having an off day. They might have just had the worst shittiest news. So just turning it on is very difficult. In situations where everyone else thinks they are the bomb and I don't have a good experience, I either don't review or will focus on their professionalism. As long as there's no disrespect or bad attitude, or dishonesty, it happens.
Because submitting a crappy review just because a lady doesn't think I'm the mutt's nutts makes me an arrogant asshole. It also would make my review misleading in the other direction.
There was a time, when I was very active in the hobby, and on this board.
My reviews were honest, concise, objective and fair.
I can remember more times than I wish, of having another individual protest my review, or the mini review that I posted to this very board.
From what I understand, My former handle was deemed to be very creditable.
It was always my intent to submit a solid review, and I did not care if the providers or their WKs were pissed or attempted to contest my experiences.
I despised false reviews, as this was a huge disservice to the community, be it a hobbyist or a well reviewed provider, who had earned her reputation.
It is truly sad to see the original intent of this board and the reviews, slip from creditable, to somewhat questionable. But then again, as my father had always said. " Consider the Source "
Go back and read the OP . It has nothing to do with off days or not clicking with a provider. . The thread is talking about clear fake reviews and those who are posting them , and the problem its becoming. To whatever degree it is , small or large , it's not right. That's the point if this whole discussion.
Here's the deal , some want to protect their ATF's and secure the cash flow . No secret , and your an idiot if you don't think it's happening. Go back and look at kissandtell. No rebuttal, you honestly want tell me whoever they are wasnt reading that discussion , and if you can go find that sucess level with a first review tell us where to go look in the reviews.
Secondly, in nobody's post, did he say he wrote reviews to penalize , no he just said I'm going to tell it like it is and take the hit from WK and providers. Some are willing to take the risk. If everything is acurate in his reviews and a session actually happened to base it on, well to god damn bad . I'm not interested in protecting the revenue stream for providers or schedulers.
If clients are doing as a favor or providers, schedulers are posting fake reviews its bullshit . And should be called out here. But to many want to stay in their safe space.
Objectivity is everything but I do allow for the fact that these ladies are humans. I may not be their preference either, for some reason. They may be having an off day. They might have just had the worst shittiest news. So just turning it on is very difficult. In situations where everyone else thinks they are the bomb and I don't have a good experience, I either don't review or will focus on their professionalism. As long as there's no disrespect or bad attitude, or dishonesty, it happens.
Because submitting a crappy review just because a lady doesn't think I'm the mutt's nutts makes me an arrogant asshole. It also would make my review misleading in the other direction.
There was a time, when I was very active in the hobby, and on this board.
My reviews were honest, concise, objective and fair.
I can remember more times than I wish, of having another individual protest my review, or the mini review that I posted to this very board.
From what I understand, My former handle was deemed to be very creditable.
It was always my intent to submit a solid review, and I did not care if the providers or their WKs were pissed or attempted to contest my experiences.
I despised false reviews, as this was a huge disservice to the community, be it a hobbyist or a well reviewed provider, who had earned her reputation.
It is truly sad to see the original intent of this board and the reviews, slip from creditable, to somewhat questionable. But then again, as my father had always said. " Consider the Source "
if reviews are credible. Otherwise you might as well be buying membership to NaughtyMonkey or whatever one of the other BS sites are. If the reviews don't hold water, there is no point in reading.
Over the past couple of years I have made about 4 problem reports.
Of those reports only one resulted in any action that I am aware of, and usually they are closed without further comment from Support. I don't report things that aren't pretty rock solid, at least to my eye, and I take care to lay it out.
Or at least I used to. I have come to the conclusion that it is a waste of time. The only way to exert pressure for better standards is here, in coversations like this. Credible reviews make the world go round. BS devalues the product, and TER knows it too.
Sometimes knowing who's doing the first review helps you determine what "group" she falls in. No one wants to TOFTT, but if you know she's with a group of girls, then maybe...
Just sayin'
There IS good information in a review like that. I consider it an ad. You can tell by the nature of how it's written. Super positive with no lines being crossed. Hints of more
Just read the reviews. Hard to believe really.