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Re: So this is for sex workers only? It doesn't address pimps?
ginainthemorning See my TER Reviews 514 reads
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When you say pimps, are you referring to 3rd party support staff.  All the current research shows more than 90% of sex workers, even minors who engage in survival sex, report that they do not have pimps. This notion that you have that a client might not know someone is being forced is utter nonsense.  Do you think clients will go to a location to see a sex worker that has been locked in a room with no cell phone, which would require the client to pass a few goons who are the so called captives.  

You are looking at the wrong bill, the decriminalization bill is HB1614 and not RSA 632-A:1 which are sexual assault laws. I am confused why you seem to think there was a proposed amendment?  Hb1614 has been put in intern committee and will be brought back in 2017.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/lsr_search/billText.aspx?id=787&type=4

The felony is only for force, coercion or fraud or when a minor is involved.  All adult sex workers, clients and 3rd party support staff would be decriminalized under HB1614

The law is written very simple, decriminalizing consenting adults, does appropriately address trafficking and coercion. If you read up on New Zealand you will see that they have just about rid the sex industry of exploitation and sex workers report having better relationships with the police and are now able to report violence. Amnesty International, WHO, Lancet institute and over 350 other organizations ALL recommend decriminalization to reduce trafficking and violence toward sex workers.

Can I ask you how you think criminalization stops trafficking because it actually makes it easier to exploit sex workers, when they cant report crimes.

 
National Survivor Network Members Survey
On the Impact of Criminal Arrest and Detention on Survivors of Human Trafficking
January 2016

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ve_H5Vu4YPQ9lABthVHHJrBqP_liQix0MaccyLVE5pA/edit?usp=sharing

The Dangers of "Safe Harbor " Laws for Youth in the Sex Trades 2016

http://esplerp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Dangers-of-Safe-Harbor-Laws-Conner-2016.pd

I think we did good getting 6 to 10 vote on our first try.  

Rep Elizabeth Edwards-Appell reports

To review, here are any committee's four options:

1) Refer for interim study (this is the rarest)
2) OTP/A or "ought to pass as amended." This is if they decide to amend the
bill in committee.
3) OTP or "ought to pass."
4) ITL or "inexpedient to legislate."

The first motion was OTP. 6 voted for it and 10 against. Since that motion
failed, Renny Cushing motioned Refer for Interim Study. 11 voted for it and
5 against, so the committee recommendation going to the whole house for a
vote is Refer for Interim Study.

I don't really know what to make of this development. Some people voted for
Interim Study because they see it as a quiet death for the bill. Some
people voted for it because they want to keep the issue alive.

I need to do more research on what Interim Study means and how that would
work before I form an opinion.

They exec'd 1613 (the Nordic model bill) immediately afterward. It was
ITL'd 15-1, so that is good.

Here is the video of them discussing and voting on HB 1614 followed by HB
1613: https://youtu.be/egH6Ht9dMDw

Please be warned before you watch it that Tholl and Pantelakos are
especially infuriating. It was so hard to stay quiet, but
non-committee-members are not allowed to speak at executive sessions unless
invited to speak by the chair.

MyBadSry473 reads

So the parts that decriminalizes, okay, I'm definitely in agreement about that, BUT

In regards to the proposed amendment of
"I.  A person is guilty of a class B felony if such person solicits, agrees to perform, or engages in sexual contact as defined in RSA 632-A:1, IV or sexual penetration as defined in RSA 632-A:1, V in return for consideration, and the violation:  
(a)  Involves another person who is under the age of 18; or
(b)  Involved compelling another person by force or intimidation. "

Does that mean that clients who can't take a hint would be prosecuted for ignorantly engaging in an act where they did not know (a) or (b) was involved?  
like, esp internet based solicitation.  

 
RSA 632-A:1 http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/lxii/632-A/632-A-1.htm

 
I don't know how I'd write the law, given the chance, to appropriately address trafficking and coercion.
But I have many ideas.
And, mostly scared to contribute.

Thx

When you say pimps, are you referring to 3rd party support staff.  All the current research shows more than 90% of sex workers, even minors who engage in survival sex, report that they do not have pimps. This notion that you have that a client might not know someone is being forced is utter nonsense.  Do you think clients will go to a location to see a sex worker that has been locked in a room with no cell phone, which would require the client to pass a few goons who are the so called captives.  

You are looking at the wrong bill, the decriminalization bill is HB1614 and not RSA 632-A:1 which are sexual assault laws. I am confused why you seem to think there was a proposed amendment?  Hb1614 has been put in intern committee and will be brought back in 2017.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/lsr_search/billText.aspx?id=787&type=4

The felony is only for force, coercion or fraud or when a minor is involved.  All adult sex workers, clients and 3rd party support staff would be decriminalized under HB1614

The law is written very simple, decriminalizing consenting adults, does appropriately address trafficking and coercion. If you read up on New Zealand you will see that they have just about rid the sex industry of exploitation and sex workers report having better relationships with the police and are now able to report violence. Amnesty International, WHO, Lancet institute and over 350 other organizations ALL recommend decriminalization to reduce trafficking and violence toward sex workers.

Can I ask you how you think criminalization stops trafficking because it actually makes it easier to exploit sex workers, when they cant report crimes.

 
National Survivor Network Members Survey
On the Impact of Criminal Arrest and Detention on Survivors of Human Trafficking
January 2016

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ve_H5Vu4YPQ9lABthVHHJrBqP_liQix0MaccyLVE5pA/edit?usp=sharing

The Dangers of "Safe Harbor " Laws for Youth in the Sex Trades 2016

http://esplerp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Dangers-of-Safe-Harbor-Laws-Conner-2016.pd

MyBadSry569 reads

I'm offened that you're being antagonistic.

The bill was a line I forgot I'd left in the post. I had too many tabs open on my phone, and didn't notice i left it there.
You have an anger problem. I get it. I see it on tumblr everytime I'm browing my dash. Being impassioned and frustrated about something can lead to resentment, but

I am ignorant. I don't understand laws, it's difficult for me to grasp without actual effort and research. I'm involved in sexwork, I communicate openly with local task forces in my areas, I feel the frustration of being in legal and physical danger of something that should be legal since it's consensual, and worry frequently about how unfairly the industry is treated in general.
But, I am concerned about others who may be in the type of situation I was in. Drugged, Kept on drugs because I was addicted, & Having people sent to my room to use me while another person was paid.
Thus, my damned question.

Put that in your pipe, and smoke it.

Also, "3rd party support staff" referring to friends, family members, agencies? I haven't encountered that term in reference to this topic.

Not sure I mentioned anything about criminalizing anything.
&
I sincerely feel that since porn is legal, of course this should be. Obviously, from the NZ data you included, that is the case.

Thanks, Gina. I hope you have a pleasant week, and that you can successfully accomplish your goals

wasn't being  antagonistic. I was educating you on stuff you admit you knew little about.  

You admit YOU were addicted to drugs, that isn't being forced.  I spend over a decade addicted to drugs and did 5 yrs DOC in FL, and I didnt allow some guy to send men to my room and collect the money.   You could have left the room or dialed 911 to get away.                                        What I hear is that you don't want to be accountable for your addiction and bad decisions.  So why not say it like it is.  You were a consensual adult sex worker, who was a addict and allowed someone to pimp them out, because you wanted to keep getting high.  That is much different than being drugged.  Being drugged is when someone slips something into your drink.  You cant work the 12 steps if you don't have the ability to be rigorously honest.  

Sex Workers hire drivers, screeners, office assistance and they are 3rd party support staff, however the media and the cops calsl them pimps and traffickers and yet when Walmart hires help they are called employees.  

I have no doubt criminalization causes many sex workers to not be able to escape abusive relationships because sex workers cant dial 911 and report domestic violence because the abuser will tell the cops and landlord that the victim is a whore.  The cops might take the victim to jail and leave the abuser in the home and most likely the landlord will evict them.  

 
Here you can see the majority of violence sex workers face, comes from the police and the trafficking task-force and the trafficking NGOs.  

People in Alaska’s Sex Trade:
Their Lived Experiences And Recommendations
http://www.sextraffickingalaska.com/pdfs/AKSWR.pdf

More than 1/2 the youths interviewed say the cops forced them to have sex in lue of going to jail and yet you think communicating with your local task force is a good idea.
https://newrepublic.com/article/128028/child-sex-workers-biggest-threat-polic

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