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Obama is a worthless sack of Dog Shit and the only gnomes still backing him
86H13LTP 493 reads
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are pussies who can't admit they were wrong .  

I try not to use the word N but I will if I ever get within shouting distance of that asshole . It would be well worth getting belted by some black dude standing nearby .

86H13LTP494 reads

are pussies who can't admit they were wrong .  

I try not to use the word N but I will if I ever get within shouting distance of that asshole . It would be well worth getting belted by some black dude standing nearby .

What the hell did he ever do to you? Let's see, did he invade the wrong country? Nope. Did he stick his thumb up his ass while two American cities were destroyed? Nope. Did he allow Wall Street to take a giant dump and crater our entire economy? Nope.  

I would be the first person to say that Obama's Presidency has been disappointing. But I can't for the life of me, understand the visceral and irrational hatred right wing nutbags have for him. It would be like if an entire group of people hated Steve Urkel.  

The worst thing you can say about Obama is that he was handed a pile of flaming poo, and could have done a better job of putting out the flames. But that's like blaming the maid for the mess after Zeppelin has left the room.  

I've always suspected that Republicans biggest issue with Obama has more to do with his race than anything else.

86H13LTP422 reads

entire worthless cock sucking lives !  

You piece of shit and that filthy Muslim asshole can fucking rot

86H13LTP452 reads

once and he found out real quick that he make a huge mistake so now he just stays quiet !

86H13LTP571 reads

one can only hope that things escalate to the point where the Israelis have finally had enough of him

You seem to be tripping over OUR President because of what? I know I've seen alot of good in what he's done and what he's trying to do. I've also seen some things that I'm not too thrilled about but elections have consequences. You can vent all your want, it's an open forum. Shit now I sound like Doctor Phil trying to talk some dude from not jumping off the edge of a building....now go ahead and jump.

WOW; A bitter, ill tempered, scatological, xenophobic, racist! Do you also breathe through your mouth, drive a gargantuan pick up truck, have a home adorned with “decorative collector plates”, have an outhouse rather than a bathroom and hold a deep longing for the days when Ozzie & Harriet, Father Knows Best and Leave it to Beaver ruled the television airways?
If so the ‘plutocratic’ Right around here would like to utilize(use) you (as they always do) as a mindless vociferous tool too back their capitalist agenda that will NEVER serve YOUR interests in the slightest.  

  I can just ‘feel’ the love in the room. :

GaGambler411 reads

Just to make all righties look stupid. KInd of like how the daytime "talk" shows used to load the audience with a bunch low brow, racist, rednecks, just to make that side of the argument look stupid.

but alas, I fear you are correct, but at least we now have a true "right wing nut job", the kind you guys have been begging for for years, to counterbalance all the left wing nut jobs that we've had here over the years.

and maybe BP will finally admit that I call out "right wing nut jobs" when I see them, the same way I call out the left wing variety, because yes, this guy is exactly the kind of nut job you lefties claim ALL righties are. What a fucking tool. lmao

86H13LTP398 reads

take a ho site mod to work day .  

You could come back and tell them the anger is legit and it's all because of worthless lefty and that pussy Muslim at 16 PA Ave

86H13LTP357 reads

Should have heard what I told him in reply . It was a classic !

salonpas487 reads

I urge you peanut brain #86 to return ASAP.

Posted By: 86H13LTP
are pussies who can't admit they were wrong .  
   
 I try not to use the word N but I will if I ever get within shouting distance of that asshole . It would be well worth getting belted by some black dude standing nearby .

86H13LTP407 reads

with Salonpas pads because I put him on a bitch

Remember, the ACA to a large extent depends on people who can afford health care paying for it.  Therefore, it is geared to people's ability to pay.

If people do not declare income (like many contractors I know) the inflate the cost for the rest of society.

If sex workers don't declare their income, they will be committing fraud that will make the system more expensive for workers who actually have to pay.  

The ACA has so many opportunities for fraud, it is sad.

those who INVENTED Healthcare plans for reason of obscene profit are left to write the next generation of Healthcare law.
 A simple Single pay, Universal Healthcare system that would have thrown the old guard of profiteers out on their ass would have been MUCH better. But instead they create a system similar to the Income Tax where those given to pathological lying are rewarded for such.  

Posted By: dncphil
Remember, the ACA to a large extent depends on people who can afford health care paying for it.  Therefore, it is geared to people's ability to pay.  
   
 If people do not declare income (like many contractors I know) the inflate the cost for the rest of society.  
   
 If sex workers don't declare their income, they will be committing fraud that will make the system more expensive for workers who actually have to pay.  
   
 The ACA has so many opportunities for fraud, it is sad.

St. Croix434 reads

and this is for every liberal. Be specific what you want. Single payer is not universal health care. Single payer is basically a funding mechanism. Think of Medicare as an example, but not everybody has to participate. Is that what you want? Do you want Universal healthcare coverage where everybody gets HC coverage? Do you want the UK version, German version. How about the VA for all? That's a govt provided H/C delivery system. There are a myriad of variations.  That's one reason I can't be onboard, because I can never get a specific answer on what you guys really want. Plus if it's Medicare for all, then you guys can never answer how tp deal with fraud, abuse and waste. Today it's $80B in annual waste.

Posted By: RRO2610
those who INVENTED Healthcare plans for reason of obscene profit are left to write the next generation of Healthcare law.  
  A simple Single pay, Universal Healthcare system that would have thrown the old guard of profiteers out on their ass would have been MUCH better. But instead they create a system similar to the Income Tax where those given to pathological lying are rewarded for such.  
   
Posted By: dncphil
Remember, the ACA to a large extent depends on people who can afford health care paying for it.  Therefore, it is geared to people's ability to pay.  
     
  If people do not declare income (like many contractors I know) the inflate the cost for the rest of society.  
     
  If sex workers don't declare their income, they will be committing fraud that will make the system more expensive for workers who actually have to pay.    
     
  The ACA has so many opportunities for fraud, it is sad.

First, "Single-payer" is a myth.  France, Canada, Britian, Italy, Sweden, don't have it.  They have a system where the state provides a minimum that the state defines as sufficient.  However, there is also insurance and private doctors for people who can afford it.  

There is a term for it over there.  It is called "Going private."  This is not a term I made up, but part of their medical lingo.  

THe main problem with a true "single payer," is it is also a "single decider."  The entity that pays the bills decides what you can get.  THis means that if there  is a new treatment that is "experimental," it may be a better medicine, but it is expensive the first years while tens of millions of dollars in research are recouped.  

However, on a cost basis it is therefore not worth it, so the state won't pay.  The problem then becomes fewer new medicines are developed because the cost is too high.

Obama himself spoke about "smarter spending."  That necessarily means someone has to decide what is smarter, and if you have single-payer, in a true  system, it is a committee in D.C. or Ottawa or London.

If you want something the committee hasn't approved, tough luck under single payer because no one else can pay for it.

Again, that is why the U.K., Canada, and every other "Single-payer," have private insurance for those that can afford it

Canada and most Western Nations do have a single payer system, have longer life spans, lower infant mortality and health care is a lower percentage of the GDP than in the US.  
Single Payer = better results + cost less

It is a Felony under US Federal Law.

St. Croix581 reads

It's not tax fraud. I specifically know a few early retirees, i.e. not yet old enough for Medicare. They have to buy individual plans. I think they are in there late 50s. The lowest cost bronze type plan, non subsidy, runs about $1050 a month in Southern California, specifically in a zip code that is considered affluent. Zip codes are important in the calculation of a subsidy. This couple has a home, and a 7 figure investment portfolio, think IRA and stuff.  

The magic AGI (1040 form) number is $62,500. If you are below that number for a couple, you get a subsidy. Now the subsidy is based on income, age, and zip code. Even though this couple elected to go with a high deductible bronze plan, they were able to adjust their income legally so it would be just below the magic number of $62,500. They have a pension, but don't take capital gains, i.e. defer income. They just made sure to stay under the $62,500 threshold.

Even right below the threshold of $62,500, the subsidy comes out to $950 a month. That means this couple, and you could consider them wealthy from an investment portfolio perspective, is only paying $100 for a bronze plan. The taxpayers are footing the bill to the tune $11,400 a year.  

Just want to make sure you are OK with that. Everything has unintended consequences.  

Posted By: Makwa
It is a Felony under US Federal Law.  

Yes, you are right that not declaring income is a crime.

But so what?  I mean, let's get real for a minute.  What percent of providers do you think claim all their income?

Just to be clear, I understand 100% why they would not.  I am not being judgmental in the sense of saying it is good or bad.  I am just stating as a matter of fact that I honestly doubt if a large number report all the income, even after deductions of what ever expenses might be necessary.

Every know and then I got cash, and Lord knows it was really hard to remember come April.

Yes, it would be tax evasion not to declare income, but since we probably agree that many will not, then they will also be getting subsidized medical care that they could otherwise afford and don't deserve, and you will be paying for it twice.

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